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Khev convinced me... ALIENS is better then ALIEN :lol

I'm not dying on the battlefield that Cameron made a better film, I just prefer it. :lol Like a-dev said we're talking two great films here. Picking a favorite is like choosing between SW and ESB but moreso with ALIEN/ALIENS might just come down to which genre you prefer. One more thing that Cameron did that I love is that he really did make a film that functions just fine as a stand-alone piece. Countless films have begun with characters who have seen or survived some menace and then try to explain to others just "what we're dealing with" as the threat unfolds throughout the film. Carpenter's The Thing, Predator, Texas Chainsaw remake, even Mr. Futterman in Gremlins. People who have some backstory with the monsters that help the new characters get up to speed but that doesn't require viewing a prior film. I thought it was very elegant how in the beginning those who aren't familiar with the events of ALIEN all have to make the most sense they can out of Ripley's report and then everything shifts and the audience collectively (new and old) upgrades to "Ripley status" right along with Hicks and the others and stays on that level for the rest of the film.

I do agree that it takes a little while to get there though, and that it takes some effort to hang in there through the documentary approach when nothing exciting or particularly artistic is occurring on screen. But oh the pay off.
 
And I agree about the verisimilitude of JAWS. Though I will extend that to Close Encounters and E.T. as well. All three films are like looking through a time portal into *real life* in 1975, 1977, and 1982 (or the prior years of each since that's when they were filmed.) Late 70's/early 80's Spielberg absolutely triumphs over Tarantino even in that regard. Thought JAWS admittedly had used its verisimilitude to more quotable/iconic effect compared to Spielberg's latter two films mentioned above.
 
"You're right, no human being would stack books like this" was funny.

"Get her Ray?" was funny.

"Dogs and cats living together" was funny.

Murray had a lot of great lines.
 
And I agree about the verisimilitude of JAWS. Though I will extend that to Close Encounters and E.T. as well. All three films are like looking through a time portal into *real life* in 1975, 1977, and 1982 (or the prior years of each since that's when they were filmed.) Late 70's/early 80's Spielberg absolutely triumphs over Tarantino even in that regard. Thought JAWS admittedly had used its verisimilitude to more quotable/iconic effect compared to Spielberg's latter two films mentioned above.

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It never was that funny.. I agree with you there. I just enjoy it as a movie but yeah it was never a really funny film. More witty then anything else.

Damn it, foiled again. :gah:
 
And I agree about the verisimilitude of JAWS. Though I will extend that to Close Encounters and E.T. as well. All three films are like looking through a time portal into *real life* in 1975, 1977, and 1982 (or the prior years of each since that's when they were filmed.) Late 70's/early 80's Spielberg absolutely triumphs over Tarantino even in that regard. Thought JAWS admittedly had used its verisimilitude to more quotable/iconic effect compared to Spielberg's latter two films mentioned above.

Put Poltergeist in there also. That family always felt very real and is right at home with those other films... No way Hooper directed that all by himself.. Spielberg defiantly was pulling the strings.
 
Randomly enough I watched Gremlins again for the first time in years. That movie is a TRIP. If any of you guys get the chance to see it on the big screen again do it! I saw it when it opened in 1984 but then caught it again at a theater pub in Portland, OR in the early 2000's as part of a "dark Christmas" themed December of throwback movies. The audience was *howling* with laughter at the Dorry's Tavern sequence. The whole thing with the gremlin in a little Flashdance sweater with leg warmers doing dance aerobics had such a staggering level of "WHAT THE **** IS GOING ON" that even though I'd seen the film many times prior to then it was hysterical to be sitting side by side an auditorium full of adults all fixated on the insanity being displayed on screen. :lol
 
Randomly enough I watched Gremlins again for the first time in years. That movie is a TRIP. If any of you guys get the chance to see it on the big screen again do it! I saw it when it opened in 1984 but then caught it again at a theater pub in Portland, OR in the early 2000's as part of a "dark Christmas" themed December of throwback movies. The audience was *howling* with laughter at the Dorry's Tavern sequence. The whole thing with the gremlin in a little Flashdance sweater with leg warmers doing dance aerobics had such a staggering level of "WHAT THE **** IS GOING ON" that even though I'd seen the film many times prior to then it was hysterical to be sitting side by side an auditorium full of adults all fixated on the insanity being displayed on screen. :lol

Love me some Gremlins!!!


Great movie discussion again tonight everyone... Lots of fun.. Now I must retire to my bed :)
 
Just saw your edit:

Like you said they really capture the time from when they were made. Elliot's and the Boys room from Poltergeist looked like my bed room at that time.

Yep, we were all Elliott. The bikes, the electronic toys, the way we talked to our friends and argued with our family, etc. Totally spot on.

Great movie discussion again tonight everyone... Lots of fun.. Now I must retire to my bed :)

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Don't like Ghostbusters either. There was only one good joke, the rest was a snoozefest.

I've always felt that Alien was the one film where the acting was so incredibly realistic that the characters felt like real people. To this day I don't think a single piece of dialogue feels forced or unnatural.
 
Randomly enough I watched Gremlins again for the first time in years. That movie is a TRIP. If any of you guys get the chance to see it on the big screen again do it! I saw it when it opened in 1984 but then caught it again at a theater pub in Portland, OR in the early 2000's as part of a "dark Christmas" themed December of throwback movies. The audience was *howling* with laughter at the Dorry's Tavern sequence. The whole thing with the gremlin in a little Flashdance sweater with leg warmers doing dance aerobics had such a staggering level of "WHAT THE **** IS GOING ON" that even though I'd seen the film many times prior to then it was hysterical to be sitting side by side an auditorium full of adults all fixated on the insanity being displayed on screen. :lol

You know, watching that movie again today it amazes me how much they could get away with back then. I mean, the mom shoves the gremlin in the blender and turns it on lol
 
But back on topic, I actually agree with a lot of you that one of the saving graces of the first three Alien films is that they can be watched singularly and not have be watched back to back BUT if you choose to there is enough plot points to get enough enjoyment out of them.

Maybe its just that I've always liked the darker tones to movies even when I was younger. The original Transformers movie for example way back then was pretty dark and adult even from the start and so on, so I guess Alien 3 just seems like a natural progression for the series to go in.

I will say though that out of the first three films Alien 3 wins in the most unnerving opening sequence hands down. I mean, the haunting music combined with the quick shots of whats happening, the sound effects of the cracking cryotubes and the alarms.....its so unnerving.
 
Randomly enough I watched Gremlins again for the first time in years. That movie is a TRIP. If any of you guys get the chance to see it on the big screen again do it! I saw it when it opened in 1984 but then caught it again at a theater pub in Portland, OR in the early 2000's as part of a "dark Christmas" themed December of throwback movies. The audience was *howling* with laughter at the Dorry's Tavern sequence. The whole thing with the gremlin in a little Flashdance sweater with leg warmers doing dance aerobics had such a staggering level of "WHAT THE **** IS GOING ON" that even though I'd seen the film many times prior to then it was hysterical to be sitting side by side an auditorium full of adults all fixated on the insanity being displayed on screen. :lol

Let me add Gremlins to my list of movies that did not hold up favorably for me.

Real shame too because I was very fond of that one.

Thankfully that list is short. :lol

I do need to revisit ET and Animal House.
 
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Aliens>Alien>>>>Alien 3>>>>>>>>>>>>>Aliens 4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all those other movies that have an alien in them.

You forgot "Listen, you smell something???"

And "what did you do Ray???"


The 5 top film of all time. In no particular order...
1. Jaws
2. The Empire Strikes Back
3. The Godfather
4. Back to the Future
5. Night of the Living Dead.

6. Batman vs Superman (lol)
 
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