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It is somewhat ironic that Gronkowski is missing the rest of the season due to Thomas' legal hit (several reports attributed the herniated disk to Thomas' hit) and now Earl Thomas will miss the season. The football gods are messing with us.
 
It is somewhat ironic that Gronkowski is missing the rest of the season due to Thomas' legal hit (several reports attributed the herniated disk to Thomas' hit) and now Earl Thomas will miss the season. The football gods are messing with us.

That is strange isn't it..Karma :dunno
 
Given belichicks tendency to get rid of players a year early before a year late, what if the pats get bounced early in the playoffs.... does he trade Gronk AND Brady? Start with garapollo and a kings ransom in draft picks??? Not saying I want to see that happen, but nothing would surprise me anymore
 
Gronk could go.. but I think Brady is untouchable. Plus who would trade for him? I know he is playing great now but unless a top team loses a QB nobody will want Tom (and his salary) to build a team with…. Very limited market for him.
 
Yeah, bunch of articles on ESPN and other sites already about Gronkowski's future with the team.

The Cowboys/Bucanneers game on 12/18 has been flexed to prime time. Some big playoff implications for the Bucs, who are ahead of Washington for the last Wildcard spot. Washington will be hoping Dallas wins, LOL.
 
Given belichicks tendency to get rid of players a year early before a year late, what if the pats get bounced early in the playoffs.... does he trade Gronk AND Brady? Start with garapollo and a kings ransom in draft picks??? Not saying I want to see that happen, but nothing would surprise me anymore

Highly unlikely in both cases. Gronkowski is on the book $7 million next year which is a relative bargain. The last 2 years of his current contract are for $11 and $12 respectively. If something is to happen it will be after '17 and the current contract will probably be reworked anyway if he stays in NE.

I would say Brady is safe with the Pats through the 2018 season. 2019 cutting him brings a $7 million dead cap hit. It would also be his age 42 season. I'm guessing he plays another 2 years and then retires.
 
Here's an article I read early about Gronk's injury:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...nfl-playoff-picture-tight-end-future-2016-nfl

Some interesting points:

"The Patriots will surely keep him for 2017, even if he doesn't recover from the back surgery, because it would cost nearly as much money to trade or release Gronk ($6 million) as it would to keep him. It also would be nuts to move on from him this quickly, of course. If he doesn't recover to his prior self, though, the Patriots could cut or trade him before 2018 and turn that $11 million into $4 million in dead money. Knowing Gronkowski's injury history, they also could renegotiate that deal down to reduce Gronk's cap hit, as they did with Amendola in recent years. In other words, the Patriots have all the leverage. And given his injury history, that's a big deal."

As Grenouille said, Gronk's contract is a bargain for the best TE in football. But he's signed his contracts with his future in mind, going for guaranteed money sooner than a potentially higher payday later.

"While the tight end emerged as a star and was mostly injury-free before suffering a high ankle sprain during the 2011 playoffs, it became clear that Gronk (or his representation) was concerned about his long-term ability to stay on the field. It's hard to otherwise explain the deal he chose to sign before the 2012 season, just two years after entering the league. While reports at the time suggested that the six-year, $54 million deal was the biggest contract ever handed out to a tight end, the structure was incredibly team-friendly and contained just $12.9 million in guaranteed money.

Gronkowski got just that $12.9 million in cash over the first three years of his contract, which is staggeringly low. To put that number in context, the far inferior Jared Cook got $17 million over the first three years of his deal when he hit free agency the following season. Gronkowski's cap hit was 17th among tight ends in 2012, 21st in 2013, and ninth in 2014 before rising to second last year. This year, it's sixth in the league at $6.6 million, behind the likes of Jordan Cameron ($8 million), Julius Thomas ($7.3 million) and Kyle Rudolph (also $7.3 million)."
 
Yeah, bunch of articles on ESPN and other sites already about Gronkowski's future with the team.

The Cowboys/Bucanneers game on 12/18 has been flexed to prime time. Some big playoff implications for the Bucs, who are ahead of Washington for the last Wildcard spot. Washington will be hoping Dallas wins, LOL.
I bet a team like Denver would take him as that's the only missing piece really. MN would have traded for him earlier this year.
 
Yeah, bunch of articles on ESPN and other sites already about Gronkowski's future with the team.

The Cowboys/Bucanneers game on 12/18 has been flexed to prime time. Some big playoff implications for the Bucs, who are ahead of Washington for the last Wildcard spot. Washington will be hoping Dallas wins, LOL.

I would do whatever it takes to keep Washington out of the playoffs so if the Cowboys need to lose that game, so be it. I don't like my chances of beating the Skins 3 times in 1 season...especially the way Cousins carved us up on Thanksgiving.
 
I would do whatever it takes to keep Washington out of the playoffs so if the Cowboys need to lose that game, so be it. I don't like my chances of beating the Skins 3 times in 1 season...especially the way Cousins carved us up on Thanksgiving.

I'd worry more about the Giants than Washington if I was Dallas. Giants defense is much better than skins. Cousins might be hot, but his defense still gives up too many points . Giants are not out of the playoff run yet and if they go in watch out for them and Seattle to be spoilers for Atlanta and Dallas. The experts say those two teams can upset the favorites out of the playoffs :lecture

And remember oh who was that beat Brady twice in the SB..oh yeah Eli

Just saying worry about NY in the WC before Washighton Cowboys :lecture
 
I worry about every team that makes the playoffs. Cowboys aren't good enough to overlook anyone. I just worry about the whole beating 1 team 3 times in a season aspect of it.
 
Even if Cleveland gets one win by the end of the season, they still get the #1 draft pick next season :lol

What do you think keep the Draft Pick or trade for Romo or Cutler
 
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Why would they want Cutler or Romo? Cleveland is MILES away from contending and bringing them in results in the same mess they are in now.
 
Why would they want Cutler or Romo? Cleveland is MILES away from contending and bringing them in results in the same mess they are in now.

The defense is getting better..just need a quality QB. I have no doubt they will draft a QB pick ..If not, the GM needs to fired asap
 
I would say first it depends on what they see out of RG3. If you see something in him you use that #1 pick on other players or get a nice package of picks. If not you can draft a QB as long as you see the right one. They can't afford to miss again.
 
I would say first it depends on what they see out of RG3. If you see something in him you use that #1 pick on other players or get a nice package of picks. If not you can draft a QB as long as you see the right one. They can't afford to miss again.

Any draft QBs out there that are worth going to Browns? :dunno
 
The defense is getting better..just need a quality QB. I have no doubt they will draft a QB pick ..If not, the GM needs to fired asap
Romo wouldn't even go there. Cutler might have no other choice so I guess try for him for a year and draft a QB.
 
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