NFL Thread

[sprig0701]

All teams and coaches have cheated. Some get caught (i.e. Belicheck), some don't (ie. Bill Walsh). Case closed.

Atlanta should try cheating right now.

 

[sprig0701]

Steroids is cheating, and 90% of players probably juice. I've seen respected players say that they push the rules as far as they will go in order to get as much of an advantage over their opponents as possible. Where do you draw the line of what is acceptable "cheating" and what isn't?

Secretly taping their game plan and signals would be a line. Kinda unfair when you know exactly what they're going to do. Most of your game plan is fooling your opponent on offense and defense. And a good majority of the players use performance enhancing substances. Some just to heal quicker and some for a competitive edge. The League actually allows certain substances and college does as well. Body builders use major mass building substances, that's why there's an all natural division in the pros where those aren't allowed. Let's face it, people don't want to see smaller, weaker players in unexciting games.

 

[wofford29]

You can't discriminate degrees of cheating. The only thing the Pats did wrong was use a video camera to what does and still goes on today...

"There isn't a team in the league that doesn't try to steal signals [but] I haven't heard about teams recording footage like the Patriots were," said one longtime NFL assistant coach. "But you can bet everybody is trying to steal in some way. In fact, you can go to any NFL game and you'll find some coach whose sole job is to look for defensive signals."

 

[wofford29]

Atlanta should try cheating right now.

The only cheating that would help them would be stealing some defensive talent.

 

[Grenouille]

Are you serious with this all knowing game plan and signal stealing stuff or are you just trying to stir the pot at this point?

Did Belichick have secret operatives in the front offices of other teams too?

 

[snoop101]

The thing I don't understand is that Tebow beat Cam Newton out head to head at Florida. He put up better stats then Cam in college. Minus mechanics and being a criminal they both had the same knocks against them coming out. Now all of a sudden Cam and his horrible accuracy can be over looked but Tebow and his issues cant? If all Cam does is win games when is that going to start? Tebow had a better record in his first three games as a rookie then Cam does. I say give the kid a shot.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[karamazov80]

Well, I just hope the Falcons keep playing like this when the Saints play them.

Secretly taping their game plan and signals would be a line. Kinda unfair when you know exactly what they're going to do. Most of your game plan is fooling your opponent on offense and defense. And a good majority of the players use performance enhancing substances. Some just to heal quicker and some for a competitive edge. The League actually allows certain substances and college does as well. Body builders use major mass building substances, that's why there's an all natural division in the pros where those aren't allowed. Let's face it, people don't want to see smaller, weaker players in unexciting games.

Seems like a pretty arbitrary distinction to me. . .cheating is cheating. And does the question of whether or not the form of cheating makes the games more watchable or exciting really play a role? Because if so, I say let's classify the WWE as a legitimate sports entity. So they rig the outcomes. So what? It makes for more drama and excitement!

I acknowledge that the NFL looks the other way on the steroid issue because it significantly benefits them, but still. . .cheating.

 

[DinoDB1975]

Man, how good is Fred Jackson? Tough runner, and for my money is the best screen pass receiver at RB today. Bills already had him, and they went out and got Marshawn Lynch. Lynch is gone, but Jackson's still here. They got CJ Spiller, too, but Jackson ain't going no where.

 

[SixMillionDollarMan Guy]

As a Vikings fan, I wanted to see the Packers lose.

 

[nash]

The Jets are fathoms above what they've been in recent memory. The Pats eeked out a decent win, but still have to play @ NY yet. Plus, the Jets went to the past 2 conference title games. Where were the Pats at? Oh that's right, at home not playing.

rofl, case of salty balls. poor baby!

If you want to live in the PAST. count up how many championships the Pats have and the Jets have. Yeah thats right _____.

 

[nash]

Are you are fellow Broncos fan?

Thank God youre a lakers fan or you'd have nothing to cheer for.

 

[namnori47]

what happened to ATL? they were so many experts pick to be in the super bowl this yr. have they really fallen off that much this yr?

 

[wofford29]

what happened to ATL? they were so many experts pick to be in the super bowl this yr. have they really fallen off that much this yr?

I didn't even see anyone pick Atlanta to win their own division. The first two games they tried to be a team they're not. They thought Matt Ryan was ready to be elite and drafted Julio Jones and wanted to be a pass happy Saints clone. Problem is, Matt Ryan is an average qb. Falcons came to terms with this by game three and got back to what they do best, run first and often and play action off of that. They looked good early last night but that leads to the biggest problem. Absolutely no defense and dating back to last year, the inability to finish games.

 

[MachineGunMan]

Would haved been nice if atl defense could have played in the second half, would love to see Green Bay lose, to help the lions make the playoffs this year.

 

[mfoga]

Here is my thought on cheating in sports, if your not cheating your not trying.

 

[SixMillionDollarMan Guy]

I didn't even see anyone pick Atlanta to win their own division. The first two games they tried to be a team they're not. They thought Matt Ryan was ready to be elite and drafted Julio Jones and wanted to be a pass happy Saints clone. Problem is, Matt Ryan is an average qb. Falcons came to terms with this by game three and got back to what they do best, run first and often and play action off of that. They looked good early last night but that leads to the biggest problem. Absolutely no defense and dating back to last year, the inability to finish games.

1. Peter King of SI picked the Falcons over the Chargers in the Super Bowl.

https://insidesportsillustrated.com...cts-falcons-over-chargers-in-super-bowl-xlvi/

2. The NFL has a dearth of good QBs. There are 20 teams out there that would stand in line for his services.

3. I agree with your statement on the Falcon defense.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

SI still exists?

 

[wofford29]

1. Peter King of SI picked the Falcons over the Chargers in the Super Bowl.

https://insidesportsillustrated.com...cts-falcons-over-chargers-in-super-bowl-xlvi/

2. The NFL has a dearth of good QBs. There are 20 teams out there that would stand in line for his services.

3. I agree with your statement on the Falcon defense.

1. If he's right, I'm certainly not going to hold it against him.

2. 20 other teams would have an average qb at the end of the day.

3. No chance the D improves next year either since we gave up our draft for Julio Jones. Not unless we go hog wild in free agency.

 

[SixMillionDollarMan Guy]

SI still exists?

Believe it or not subscriptions can be had.

But as with most publications, people tend to go via electronic means.

I prefer my Playboy subscription in hand though. ...................

 

[SixMillionDollarMan Guy]

1. If he's right, I'm certainly not going to hold it against him.

2. 20 other teams would have an average qb at the end of the day.

3. No chance the D improves next year either since we gave up our draft for Julio Jones. Not unless we go hog wild in free agency.

We can agree to disagree on Ryan.

I had the Falcons in this year's NFC championship game against Green Bay but chickened out at the last moment and replaced them with the Eagles.

Yeah, the Falcons pulled a stunner in last year's draft. They were the talk of the draft. I may be mistaken but I think they still have to give up next year's #1 also? Right or wrong, I'll give the Falcons organization credit for making a ballsy decision and going after who they targeted.

A lot of us Vikings fan at our draft party were begging them to move up 2-3 spots in the 1st round to take Blaine Gabbert. They didn't and chose Christian Ponder instead. About 50 of us just walked out.