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So your ok saying f u to all the full time nfl employees who don't get the same benefits?

There's no pension plan for full time NFL employees? Seriously the owners are sticking this out over $16.5 million over 5 years. It's ludicrous.
 
While I'm sure there are some biases in every official. Couldn't you see the problem with having an outright fan of a certain team calling a game in which millions of dollars are on the line?

I see the potential. But that goes nowhere toward justifying paranoia.
 
So your ok saying f u to all the full time nfl employees who don't get the same benefits?

Those other employees are not having a direct negative impact on the game. And if those other employees don't have a union or collective bargaining agreement that is their problem. You don't accept a job without knowing or accepting the benefit package or lack there of.
 
Lol...way to pick and choose. You know it's more complicated than that. Do some research before you post.


The refs won't back off they want to keep pension something the regular NFL employees don't get. It has been stated that is a huge sticking point. Many much closer to the situation have said if the refs would back off that they would get the raise they want.
 
Those other employees are not having a direct negative impact on the game. And if those other employees don't have a union or collective bargaining agreement that is their problem. You don't accept a job without knowing or accepting the benefit package or lack there of.
So your telling probably 1000s of fans who do way more work for the nfl these part time guys are more important then you. Every organization that can is getting rid of pensions. Pensions are a bad deal for organizations.

And saying they don't have direct impact sure, but they are also the ones who make sure your safe at a game, yeah there not important.
 
The refs won't back off they want to keep pension something the regular NFL employees don't get. It has been stated that is a huge sticking point. Many much closer to the situation have said if the refs would back off that they would get the raise they want.

Many closer, huh. Care to provide proof of this? I doubt if you're an insider on this.

You don't seem to understand the big picture. The refs will make a big enough blunder to change an outcome of a game.

The credibility of the game is being undermined here.

There was an extra time-out given in the end of the Arizona/Seattle game that could changed the outcome in week 1.
 
Many closer, huh. Care to provide proof of this? I doubt if you're an insider on this.

You don't seem to understand the big picture. The refs will make a big enough blunder to change an outcome of a game.

The credibility of the game is being undermined here.

There was an extra time-out given in the end of the Arizona/Seattle game that could changed the outcome in week 1.

It has been written and talked about.

The creditbitly is undermined? Wait so the old refs never made mistakes? They never blew a call that directly changed outcome of a game? Oh wait they have more then once. Hell these such great refs can't always even get a field goal good or bad right. The easiest call to make when it goes between the upright yet they couldn't tell it was good?

These guys aren't good and I won't say that but to say they are ruining the game is laughable. The old ones had many big time mistakes and people seem to forget that.
 
Wow, 6m, do you know what irony is? :lol If you think saying "Tebow never threw 3 ints in quarter" meant that Tebow is better than Manning, you need to lay off the weed.

In all seriousness, are you so bitter against Tebow that you're willing to sling insults at someone who previously never had a cross word with you just because I like the guy? That's really really sad. Hope it was worth burning the respect I had for you.



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If the Broncos don't score here it is all but over.
 
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It has been written and talked about.

The creditbitly is undermined? Wait so the old refs never made mistakes? They never blew a call that directly changed outcome of a game? Oh wait they have more then once. Hell these such great refs can't always even get a field goal good or bad right. The easiest call to make when it goes between the upright yet they couldn't tell it was good?

These guys aren't good and I won't say that but to say they are ruining the game is laughable. The old ones had many big time mistakes and people seem to forget that.

Sure they made mistakes. But here's the difference. The old refs at least knew the rules of the game. Some of these new crews either don't know some of the rules or they interpret them wrong. Giving an extra timeout, marking off the wrong yardage on penalties, and these games are taking much longer to play....I mean c'mon on!
 
Sure they made mistakes. But here's the difference. The old refs at least knew the rules of the game. Some of these new crews either don't know some of the rules or they interpret them wrong. Giving an extra timeout, marking off the wrong yardage on penalties, and these games are taking much longer to play....I mean c'mon on!

Need some examples of them not knowing rules just watch come on man intro, two refs showing recovery in two directions, confused refs on mic. Let's not forget giving ball to other team when the forget what the call was on the coin flip. And these are veteran refs not guys in their first year.
 
Need some examples of them not knowing rules just watch come on man intro, two refs showing recovery in two directions, confused refs on mic. Let's not forget giving ball to other team when the forget what the call was on the coin flip. And these are veteran refs not guys in their first year.

I'm being honest here and not trying to act like a jerk. I didn't understand your post. Could you please use punctuation correctly and then I'll respond.
 
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