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Part of the undermining is perception. Mike Turico tonight is laying his criticism on REALLY THICK. Too thick IMO.

For example, blaming the 4 refs for failing to control 30 grown men during that skirmish earlier is absurd. These are professional athletes who know better and should be responsible for their own behavior. Plus each squad has 10 coaches that should also be controlling their own people. But instead the ESPN crew blames it all on the refs? That's overkill.

The problem of the lower quality refs has grown from the actual impact to the actual impact PLUS perceived impact.
 
Wow, 6m, do you know what irony is? :lol If you think saying "Tebow never threw 3 ints in quarter" meant that Tebow is better than Manning, you need to lay off the weed.

In all seriousness, are you so bitter against Tebow that you're willing to sling insults at someone who previously never had a cross word with you just because I like the guy? That's really really sad. Hope it was worth burning the respect I had for you.

Ahh, I see you edited your post. The irony is that you added "laying off the weed." And then you go on to say "sling insults." Way to back yourself up.

And for the record, I still consider you a friend. You were the one who sent a friend request to me during the baseball playoffs last season. And if you want to burn that, then it's up to you. :peace
 
Everyone can go ahead and forget the 11 wins and AFC south title I predicted for my beloved Titans. I have no doubt we're the worst team in the league. And I'm sick about it...:(
 
Ahh, I see you edited your post. The irony is that you added "laying off the weed." And then you go on to say "sling insults." Way to back yourself up.

And for the record, I still consider you a friend. You were the one who sent a friend request to me during the baseball playoffs last season. And if you want to burn that, then it's up to you. :peace

It is up to me, isn't it. Whether I want to consider someone my friend who calls me "delusional" and "sorry". Yeah. Not so much. Maybe some of your other "friends" are cool with that. Not me.
 
QB is the operative word isn't it?

You guys say he "sucks". Period. Are you talking about his QBing only or as a total football player?

One could say "Devin Hester sucks" and we all know that's crap because overall his impact for the Bears was huge as a special teamer. But he is pretty pathetic WR on its own.

You guys are saying Tebow sucks. Does he have negative overall value compared to other football players? I don't think a negative overall football player who touch the ball 30-50 times a game would take a team to the playoffs.

Back to QB. No, I'm not saying and never have that he's a good QB. But he did show that whatever he IS can have value.
 
QB is the operative word isn't it?

You guys say he "sucks". Period. Are you talking about his QBing only or as a total football player?

One could say "Devin Hester sucks" and we all know that's crap because overall his impact for the Bears was huge as a special teamer. But he is pretty pathetic WR on its own.

You guys are saying Tebow sucks. Does he have negative overall value compared to other football players? I don't think a negative overall football player who touch the ball 30-50 times a game would take a team to the playoffs.

Back to QB. No, I'm not saying and never have that he's a good QB. But he did show that whatever he IS can have value.

Wow! I haven't seen so much dancing and posturing since nobamas change and yes we can crap. :wink1:

Yes he sucks. He will continue to suck. And when he's done he may own a car wash. :wave
 
How is that dancing and posturing, Keithy? I answered the question straight up at the bottom.

Looks like you dancing out of putting together an actual argument. :lol

I don't blame you. Pretty hard to argue since he got farther than your team did last year. :lol

I'm wondering 25 interceptions in 2 weeks do you think Vick is a good QB? :lol
 
How is that dancing and posturing, Keithy? I answered the question straight up.

Looks like you dancing out of putting together an actual argument. :lol

I don't blame you. Pretty hard to argue that he got farther than your team did last year. :lol

He farted harder than who? I don't know about all that.

I may like the Eagles. But they aren't MY team. I don't own them. I don't play for them. I can also objectify when they suck.

Seriously how is Tebow a good player? He's done. He is nothing. Just a big white dude that the media strokes because he "prays" in public.
 
He farted harder than who? I don't know about all that.

I may like the Eagles. But they aren't MY team. I don't own them. I don't play for them. I can also objectify when they suck.

Seriously how is Tebow a good player? He's done. He is nothing. Just a big white dude that the media strokes because he "prays" in public.

Sucky players don't win 8 football games touching the ball 40 times a game. This isn't hiding a sucky TE or FB or WR who you just don't give the ball to.

It just doesn't happen...unless you want to say that every defensive player he beat and made look bad also sucks.

Does he suck throwing the ball? Hell yes. Still won games with what he did have though, didn't he?

Is he a sucky option QB?

Anyway, this argument is so 2011...:lol Didn't think an ironic joke would wake up all the bitter haters. Shrug.
 
ATL should have blown this out while they had the chance. 10 or 13 points in a quarter with 4 TOs is pretty bad.
 
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