I'm glad the Pack lost and all
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jnmx2000
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Don't let your QB be sacked 8 times in the first half. Aaron Rogers is more than capable of throwing 2 or more TDs a game. The outcome of the game should not have come down to a refs call based on the talent alone, and since it did, I have no hurt feelings about the final outcome, packers are more than capable of winning that game 21 to 14. Rogers even said in the post game interview that they should have played to the point where one call does not decide the game.
But besides that call, I'll say this, my last on this game, there should have been a flag on Tate for pass interference and the play should have been killed not allowing the seahawks the touchdown, that was a big miss.
Packers are still a good team and will most likely drop the saints to 0-4 next week.
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So what now Sherlock?
Yeah, still worried about those pensions.....dumbass.
They can blame the refs on that duh. Thought you were smart enough to figure that one out but guess not.
Well seeing you posted about espn reporting did you catch the part saying if the refs back of the pension they would get a deal right now? I still don't think they deserve the pension and based on reporting neither does the NFL. Why the hell a part time employee should get a pension plan boggles my mind.
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The NFL cannot discipline Gruden. Gruden is an ESPN employee, not an NFL employee.
I wonder how much pressure the NFL is trying to exert on media outlets showing their games to tone it down, though. The commentators are just getting more and more critical. Turico's commentary was pretty negative, as well.
DinoDB1975
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Lot of discussion (and rightfully so) since I posted last night after the game.
I was going to answer this, but it's already been answered.
Exactly. The call on the field was TD; they could have only upheld the TD or overturned it if the ball hit the ground, etc.
They couldn't go and say that the ball was intercepted.
As some of the commentators as well as Pete Carroll mentioned, the game reminded me of a NE/Bills game years and years ago (I was a Pats fan back then because of Bill Parcells and Drew Bledsoe). Bledsoe had thrown a bomb into the end zone and Terry Glenn drew a pass interference call with no time left on the clock. Next play was a play action TD pass from Bledsoe to Ben Coates. The Bills were so disgusted that they didn't even come out for the extra point. Adam Vinateri then just ran it in for two points. I thought we were going to see a replay of that last night, but Green Bay came out and lined up.
On another note, even though Aaron Rodgers got mauled with eight sacks, I didn't see him scream at his o-line or bump them.
They got cheated TWICE!!!!!!!
I was going to answer this, but it's already been answered.
Exactly. The call on the field was TD; they could have only upheld the TD or overturned it if the ball hit the ground, etc.
They couldn't go and say that the ball was intercepted.
As some of the commentators as well as Pete Carroll mentioned, the game reminded me of a NE/Bills game years and years ago (I was a Pats fan back then because of Bill Parcells and Drew Bledsoe). Bledsoe had thrown a bomb into the end zone and Terry Glenn drew a pass interference call with no time left on the clock. Next play was a play action TD pass from Bledsoe to Ben Coates. The Bills were so disgusted that they didn't even come out for the extra point. Adam Vinateri then just ran it in for two points. I thought we were going to see a replay of that last night, but Green Bay came out and lined up.
On another note, even though Aaron Rodgers got mauled with eight sacks, I didn't see him scream at his o-line or bump them.
DinoDB1975
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Hmmm, some conflicting information on what replay can or can't do.
From Peter King's column today:
"Now, as to the replay: Let's be clear about what can and can't be reviewed. Simultaneous possession between the goal lines cannot be reviewed. Simultaneous possession in the end zone can be reviewed. That's an important distinction that many in the media have not made since Elliott went under the hood.
Daopoulos pointed out that a veteran referee -- say, an Ed Hochuli -- would go under the hood and not need advice from the replay official upstairs. But in this case, Daopoulos believes both the replay official, Howard Slavin, and the NFL officiating supervisor, former ref Phil Luckett, were speaking to Elliott while he was looking at the different angles of the replay. Daopoulos believes they should have said to him, "This is an interception." That's what he would have said had he been in the booth."
Read more: https://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2...ees-packers-seahawks/index.html#ixzz27VUVfYmW
From Peter King's column today:
"Now, as to the replay: Let's be clear about what can and can't be reviewed. Simultaneous possession between the goal lines cannot be reviewed. Simultaneous possession in the end zone can be reviewed. That's an important distinction that many in the media have not made since Elliott went under the hood.
Daopoulos pointed out that a veteran referee -- say, an Ed Hochuli -- would go under the hood and not need advice from the replay official upstairs. But in this case, Daopoulos believes both the replay official, Howard Slavin, and the NFL officiating supervisor, former ref Phil Luckett, were speaking to Elliott while he was looking at the different angles of the replay. Daopoulos believes they should have said to him, "This is an interception." That's what he would have said had he been in the booth."
Read more: https://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2...ees-packers-seahawks/index.html#ixzz27VUVfYmW
The old refs weren't without their fare share of scrutiny or bad calls that possibly cost a team a win, but the amount of those we've seen these past three weeks are more than we've seen in about a decade of combined bad officiating from the regulars. It almost would give merit to any speculation that the regulars are encouraging this bad officiating to give them merit in what they're asking from the NFL, and that the replay officials (who are regulars) are telling them to uphold their bad calls (last nights, and Boldin's incomplete pass called a TD week 1, for example) to further help their colleagues out. I just can not see how a tenured official in that booth would allow an obvious bad call like that. For the most part, reviewed scores by the officials are upheld or reversed correctly 95% of the time or more.
sithjedi171
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I don't blame the scab officials. They're unqualified. I blame Goodell for putting the league in this position. It's unacceptable. 
Grenouille
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I don't blame the scab officials. They're unqualified. I blame Goodell for putting the league in this position. It's unacceptable.
You can blame Goodell, but it's really the 31 owners who are pushing it. Goodell is their puppet.
I blame the NFL and locked out refs for having the refs. The nfl wanted to make some full time, add more crews so crews doing bad job can bad sat out on top of the financial issues. The current refs want a raise to keep pension and no other changes. Neither side seem flexible from reports.
As for the caos, and the player safety issues I blame NFL, coaches media, and players. These coaches and players are professionals but can't seem to act like it. They coaches and players are acting like stupid immature HS students in a class with a substitute teacher. How you can call yourself a professional we you act that way is beyond me. I blame the media , coaches and players for putting intense pressure on ill prepared refs just trying to the best they can before the first preseason game. Everyone was saying how bad they would be. I honestly belive some are doing worse because they are trying to hard to not make a mistake knowing every little mistake will be blown way out of proportion and that's leading to even more mistakes. If the players were truly worried about player safety they would have the respect for their fellow players and not be trying to take advantage of a situation and hurt their fellow players.
As for the caos, and the player safety issues I blame NFL, coaches media, and players. These coaches and players are professionals but can't seem to act like it. They coaches and players are acting like stupid immature HS students in a class with a substitute teacher. How you can call yourself a professional we you act that way is beyond me. I blame the media , coaches and players for putting intense pressure on ill prepared refs just trying to the best they can before the first preseason game. Everyone was saying how bad they would be. I honestly belive some are doing worse because they are trying to hard to not make a mistake knowing every little mistake will be blown way out of proportion and that's leading to even more mistakes. If the players were truly worried about player safety they would have the respect for their fellow players and not be trying to take advantage of a situation and hurt their fellow players.
roguebaron
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The officiating is just horrid, but I really feel for the refs, they're stuck in a bad situation and there's not much they can do. They know they are out classed at the job, so do we, but what else can they do. I just hope they pay up before the season is lost completely.
And while I enjoyed watching the Ravens ( yes I'm a rat bird fan, so list me as aRaven supporter) beat the patriots, that's not the way I want to see it happen.
And while I enjoyed watching the Ravens ( yes I'm a rat bird fan, so list me as aRaven supporter) beat the patriots, that's not the way I want to see it happen.
It's not like its the Super Bowl that would really suck huh? Oh wait it did happen in Super Bowl 40 the Seahawks got at least 5 bad calls by Bill leavy and crew and they were the REGULAR Refs
they cost the Seahawks at least 14 points with that they would have won easily
and insult to injury a year later Bill Leavy admits he made several bad calls that effected the outcome of the game and no one made a big deal cuz it was the GAY steelers
but no one speaks of that HUH
they cost the Seahawks at least 14 points with that they would have won easilyand insult to injury a year later Bill Leavy admits he made several bad calls that effected the outcome of the game and no one made a big deal cuz it was the GAY steelers but no one speaks of that HUH
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Yeah, I saw Bill Leavy trip a Seahawks DB when Willie Parker ran for 75 yds to the end zone, and he made sure Hines Ward was wide open on that gadget play. Pittsburgh had gotten bad calls in that game too, but in the end they made the big plays when it mattered, Seattle didn't. Pittsburgh went on to 2 more Super Bowls and Seattle fell back into obscurity. Pittsburgh was just the better of the 2 bad teams in that game. So wah-freaking-wah, it's only been over 6 years now, so unless you were about 6-years-old at the time you should've hit puberty by now and learned to stopped crying.
It's not like its the Super Bowl that would really suck huh? Oh wait it did happen in Super Bowl 40 the Seahawks got at least 5 bad calls by Bill leavy and crew and they were the REGULAR Refs
I like how you went back and edited this from Bill Leavey costing Seattle 14 points to say about it cost them the game and the Steelers are GAY. Not just gay, but GAY.
Maybe you should get out of my moms bed and go get your mom to make you some hot cocoa. 
SixMillionDollarMan Guy
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So you went from blaming the officials and their pensions and are now including the NFL too. Nice play on the revisionist history card.
I see you've been working on your run-on sentences.
Is it possible you can look past the end of your nose when discussing the Steelers? Seriously man, take off the black and gold glasses.
The only one who is crying here is when your Steelers lose and you go into full pout mode.
I like how you went back and edited this from Bill Leavey costing Seattle 14 points to say about it cost them the game and the Steelers are GAY. Not just gay, but GAY.
I edited it because I miss spelled a word
say what you want if you keep giving teams a chance with bad call after bad call of coarse there going to make a play even the guys calling the game said there were bad calls going against Seattle I guess they didn't want to see Hines Ward cry like a baby again Crying like a b**ch infront of reporters
SixMillionDollarMan Guy
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Ref lockout could end soon.
According to Espn.com....
"The NFL and the NFL Referees Association made enough progress in negotiations Tuesday night that the possibility of the locked-out officials returning in time to work this week's games has been discussed, according to sources on both sides.
An agreement in principle is at hand, according to one source familiar to talks, although NFL owners have postured with a 'no more compromise' stance."
https://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8427652/locked-nfl-referees-return-early-week-sources
According to Espn.com....
"The NFL and the NFL Referees Association made enough progress in negotiations Tuesday night that the possibility of the locked-out officials returning in time to work this week's games has been discussed, according to sources on both sides.
An agreement in principle is at hand, according to one source familiar to talks, although NFL owners have postured with a 'no more compromise' stance."
https://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8427652/locked-nfl-referees-return-early-week-sources
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