NHL General Discussion

[KitFisto]

Oh look, guess which team got the only 2 PP's in the game.......it's just typical and a big reason why this series will go just as I said it would. Honestly when that stuff happens year after year it makes easy not to give a **** anymore. You KNOW how it's going to go so why bother? I watched may 4 min of the entire game because I know the Caps already have their hands full with the Pens, but knowing you'll get ****ed on the PP chances just assures the outcome. Must be awesome to know you won't get called for anything all night.

 

[Eli26]

Ummm yeah Kit, that didn't hurt the Caps. They had zero power play goals and the Caps had possession of the puck and shots heavily in favour on their side. The Pens were outplayed. In the end, Fleury was much better than Holtby and that won us the game. Like you said, excuses... and in this case, one that had little-to-no relevance to this game.

 

[KitFisto]

Oh please, I knew you'd say that. The simple fact is the Caps have one of the BEST power plays in the NHL and AS USUAL the little to ZERO chance to use it vs the Pens. You are going to honestly tell me that if the Caps had gotten one or two power plays that the course of that game could not have been changed entirely? That is an absolutely ridiculous statement. It's just an example of exactly what I pointed out even before the game took place. The Caps come up on the short end of the stick with the officials in every series against the pens and yes it does affect the outcome.

 

[Eli26]

Of course I would, because hockey is based on 5-on-5. Point is every team gets bad calls. And again, excuses... if you can't get it done 5-on-5, then boohoo. The Pens did. End of story.

And as for being predictable, "I knew you would say that?!" You are as predictable as they come with your rhetoric. Same old song and dance every Spring. Change it up.

But I still like the Caps chances. After all, and take the good out of this, they outplayed the Pens. Fleury was in their way. If they had figured out MAF, they win the game.

 

[KitFisto]

Of course I would, because hockey is based on 5-on-5. Point is every team gets bad calls. And again, excuses... if you can't get it done 5-on-5, then boohoo. The Pens did. End of story.

And as for being predictable, "I knew you would say that?!" You are as predictable as they come with your rhetoric. Same old song and dance every Spring. Change it up.

But I still like the Caps chances. After all, and take the good out of this, they outplayed the Pens. Fleury was in their way. If they had figured out MAF, they win the game.

You're a Pens fan who's going to see everything from THAT point of view while claiming to be Mr. Hockey. I'm done in this thead arguing with a blind Homer depending on which team he loves this week. Have the last work and have fun.

 

[Eli26]

What blind eye? For being honest. For having an opinion that is different from your own. You make comments like bad calls, as if the Caps were the only team to have bad calls made against them. You even admitted that it's just an excuse. The PP didn't hurt the Caps, which was explained, no goals were scored on the man advantage. They were all even strength. And would you want to insinuate to us the only way the Caps can beat the Pens is by having the man advantage? That would be a first in a hockey argument. I even admitted to the Caps outplaying the Pens... lol The outcome was dictated by the goaltending.

And homer? Really?! As a Jets and a Penguins fan you obviously don't get me ... because you would never say that. The Jets have had some of the worst management and as for the Pens, I wasn't always a fan of the things they did. Nor do I have faith in the Jets current direction (mainly because of our GM and coaching), and the Pens, until recently, I was beginning to lose hope they would ever be that team again. I can't help that I saw greener pastures when Sullivan took over.

And as for being a fan of teams.... why yes. I am a Jets fan because living in Winnipeg and watching that team as a season ticket holder for the past six years makes me one. I am a Pens fan because for 16 years I had no NHL team and I always was a fan of Mario Lemieux. He's still my all-time favourite player. But why can't I be a fan of hockey? Such a tough concept lost on so many, which makes it sad, because being a fan of the game that goes beyond one team is sacrilegious. Note sarcasm. I consider it being small-minded. You can be a fan of multiple players and teams. Ain't no rule saying you can't. And yes, up until recently you can even add the Calgary Flames to teams I like. My current favourite player is Johnny Hockey. I loved the players the Flames drafted. I can't help it if I took a liking to them. But I am still more-so a Jets and Pens guy. But yeah, I can like all 30 teams at the end of the day. I love hockey. Don't care about the league even... why I supported the IHL/AHL all those years when Winnipeg didn't have an NHL team. And trust me, not many here did.

Of course this is my opinion and you don't have to agree with it... I am not going to apologize for knowing hockey more than most. Who cares, it's hockey. It's one small thing in the world ... I am a passionate fan who educates himself thoroughly... It's my thing. My hobby. Don't get all pissy, because I have my thing. I am sure you have your thing and you run circles around me. I don't go into the baseball and football threads presuming I know a lot, because I don't. I know my hockey, so why is that such an issue? If you want to leave, that's okay to me. But don't do it on my account. You know you can block guys too. So if you leave this thread, it is on you. You can easily block me, which is okay. I have blocked others on here as well.


Point is if you started changing some of the dialogue, I would to. But if you come at me with the same old tired subject matter, you will hear the same **** from me as well.

I would like you to post in here... but I also won't chase you down or apologize for being me.

I will give you one thing.... You're right, I do like getting in the last word.

 

[SilverStar17]

Blaming the refs for a team's shortcoming, especially before the game is even played, is the oldest excuse in professional sports. When you focus on looking to the refs for help rather than just playing the game, you're going to lose.

Just ask the 2012 Coyotes when they lost the west final to the Kings for this very reason.

But why can't I be a fan of hockey? You can be a fan of multiple players and teams.

Having grown up playing ice hockey, I am a fan of the game in general. Favorite team has always been the Kings though.

 

[BurningRage]

Rangers choked

 

[Eli26]

Look, the Caps got a PP and Cullen a 4th liner scored a shortie... lol What's Kit's schpiel going to be about now? His team gets the call, but the Pens score on the Caps PP. lol

 

[Deeznutz6]

Look, the Caps got a PP and Cullen a 4th liner scored a shortie... lol What's Kit's schpiel going to be about now? His team gets the call, but the Pens score on the Caps PP. lol

So true just got back from Vcr and read some of that tripe

The Caps had all the Pp's tonight and did nothing

Where the **** is tj Oshie? Time for either the caps to be called out officially for being playoff chokers or the Pens being praised as one of those strongest playoff teams assembled in recent years.

And your tight Eli flower has been playing great and keeping us in games we shouldn't be in, especially tonight

 

[Eli26]

Blaming the refs for a team's shortcoming, especially before the game is even played, is the oldest excuse in professional sports. When you focus on looking to the refs for help rather than just playing the game, you're going to lose.

Just ask the 2012 Coyotes when they lost the west final to the Kings for this very reason.





Having grown up playing ice hockey, I am a fan of the game in general. Favorite team has always been the Kings though.

You said it better than I did. lol

 

[Eli26]

So true just got back from Vcr and read some of that tripe

The Caps had all the Pp's tonight and did nothing

Where the **** is tj Oshie? Time for either the caps to be called out officially for being playoff chokers or the Pens being praised as one of those strongest playoff teams assembled in recent years.

And your tight Eli flower has been playing great and keeping us in games we shouldn't be in, especially tonight

Yup, but still there are people who are doubting him and if they are taken out, he's the guy they'll hang... even if he isn't the one to blame. Oh well... Keep underrating Fleury folks. And btw I know you aren't. You're giving him credit... but man HF is still tough on the guy. lol

 

[Eli26]

So true just got back from Vcr and read some of that tripe

The Caps had all the Pp's tonight and did nothing

Where the **** is tj Oshie? Time for either the caps to be called out officially for being playoff chokers or the Pens being praised as one of those strongest playoff teams assembled in recent years.

And your tight Eli flower has been playing great and keeping us in games we shouldn't be in, especially tonight

Correction, I should have added, Cullen is a 40-year-old 4th liner. lol

 

[SilverStar17]

The teams I've learned over roughly the past decade or so to never bank on coming through in the playoffs, regardless of how much of a regular season powerhouse they are, are:

- San Jose Sharks
- Anaheim Ducks
- Washington Capitals
- any team coached by Bruce Boudreau (which coincidentally is 2 out of 3 of those teams)

The Blues are creeping up on that list also. If they falter this year (again), I'd officially put them on it.

 

[KitFisto]

You said it better than I did. lol

And you're both morons. Look at the numbers Eli.....you adore stats so be a good Stat boy and look. It's a simple fact that the Pens are handed an advantage out lf the gate. The caps are a joke either way and I've admitted that time and again, but they also play the refs too most of the time. Once you figure out who your favorite team is this week then maybe you'll look at the numbers and see it.......doubt it thouh.

 

[KitFisto]

I'll save you the trouble of looking it up....here. Pens 2nd in the NHL and Caps dead last in differential. I'm sure there is NOTHING to it though right? Chicago is second to last, but found ways to fight through it. The Caps don't and fold li,e a house of cards, but the point is that it doesn't make your road any easier.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/4es5ug/playoff_penalty_differential_from_2008present/

 

[Deeznutz6]

And you're both morons. Look at the numbers Eli.....you adore stats so be a good Stat boy and look. It's a simple fact that the Pens are handed an advantage out lf the gate. The caps are a joke either way and I've admitted that time and again, but they also play the refs too most of the time. Once you figure out who your favorite team is this week then maybe you'll look at the numbers and see it.......doubt it thouh.

So what happened last night? You got all the calls early, I think the first 4 penalties went your way

 

[SilverStar17]

And you're both morons. Look at the numbers Eli.....you adore stats so be a good Stat boy and look. It's a simple fact that the Pens are handed an advantage out lf the gate. The caps are a joke either way and I've admitted that time and again, but they also play the refs too most of the time. Once you figure out who your favorite team is this week then maybe you'll look at the numbers and see it.......doubt it thouh.

I'll save you the trouble of looking it up....here. Pens 2nd in the NHL and Caps dead last in differential. I'm sure there is NOTHING to it though right? Chicago is second to last, but found ways to fight through it. The Caps don't and fold li,e a house of cards, but the point is that it doesn't make your road any easier.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/4es5ug/playoff_penalty_differential_from_2008present/

I'm confused, what's your argument here? You're essentially attempting to lay out a case that exemplifies how the refs are allegedly biased against the Capitals, while simultaneously conceding the Capitals themselves are a playoff farce either way regardless of officiating and can't get it done. So are you asserting that the Capitals consistently fail in the playoffs as a result of biased/poor officiating, or not? I'm not sure what you're arguing here. The Blackhawks are the penultimate team according to that chart via the link you cited and have a soft dynasty going so like you stated, they manage to find ways to win championships and consistently be contenders each year. The Rangers are first according to that chart, yet have struggled in the playoffs in the modern era. The Penguins, since 2009 and up until last season, were also routinely met with failure in the playoffs.

Are you suggesting that Chicago has succeeded only because they've never had to face Pittsburgh in the final and if they did, they likely would have lost because the refs are purportedly partial to Pittsburgh?

 

[Eli26]

I thought he was done being a Caps fan years ago and he was done in here. The fact he is reducing to name calling shows his lack of ability to string a proper cohesive argument together. At this point, he's been tuned out after he's called us morons. lol

 

[Deeznutz6]

Man the Edmonton game is non stop