Noticed many old members banned. What happened actually?

[xipotec]

Some self-exiled members are still around and occasionally post, while others just lurk. While I was modding here for a short time, I also noticed there were banned members who consistently tried to get back into the forums on a bi-weekly basis. They were always caught due to Asta’s well-trained intuition of sniffing them out, but I’m not sure about now.

Back in 2019, I asked to have WellCQC’s ban reversed - on account of him being a big collector of MGS figures. But, I guess Dave just didn’t want to deal with him anymore.

All good choices....and member that can derail devolve a forum about dolls with politics should be banned.....they should go back under the bridge they crawled out of.

I have seen a few member "rebrand themselves and try to get back one here.....but they cannot help but be their incel selves......so they get banned again for the same reasons.

 

[Solidus]

All good choices....and member that can derail devolve a forum about dolls with politics should be banned.....they should go back under the bridge they crawled out of.

I have seen a few member "rebrand themselves and try to get back one here.....but they cannot help but be their incel selves......so they get banned again for the same reasons.

Everyone tries to get back in here once they’ve burned their bridges lol. It’s also impossible to change without self-reflection and help to address any underlying mental health issues, so the same issues they’ve had before will just resurface eventually.

 

[devilof76]

Everyone tries to get back in here once they’ve burned their bridges lol. It’s also impossible to change without self-reflection and help to address any underlying mental health issues, so the same issues they’ve had before will just resurface eventually.

Ye. Narcissism and trolliopathic projection. They didn’t get the difference between my hostility and theirs. I would have none were it not for things like them.

 

[Solidus]

Ye. Narcissism and trolliopathic projection. They didn’t get the difference between my hostility and theirs. I would have none were it not for things like them.

What’s not surprising, is that it was only a matter of time before their hostility here resurfaced on their own site and they cannibalised each other - resulting in another splinter. I’m not privy to all the details, but a former friend here who was part of their group reached out and voluntarily filled me in on some of the info just before the pandemic.

I think there’s a lesson to be learned. There wasn’t anyone left to project their toxicity towards, so they dealt it amongst themselves.

 

[Lejuan]

Who was the dude who opted for the nuclear exit with all those porn gifs a few years back?

 

[Solidus]

I believe that was Celtic Predator back in 2013 . Sadly (or not) I missed it.

 

[devilof76]

What’s not surprising, is that it was only a matter of time before their hostility here resurfaced on their own site and they cannibalised each other - resulting in another splinter. I’m not privy to all the details, but a former friend here who was part of their group reached out and voluntarily filled me in on some of the info just before the pandemic.

I think there’s a lesson to be learned. There wasn’t anyone left to project their toxicity towards, so they dealt it amongst themselves.

Well, then. Nothing like finding out how right you are. Thanks for that bit. I took a serious ban for confronting that garbage. Vindication is sweet.

 

[devilof76]

Who was the dude who opted for the nuclear exit with all those porn gifs a few years back?

That was gross. Who collects crap like that.

 

[Lejuan]

That was gross. Who collects crap like that.

Absolutely vile it was. The second I finished downloading it I reported him.

 

[chrisstbh]

That sounds awful, I really hope no one sends me any of it!

 

[MarkKing]

I am sort of new, but what I have seen from message boards is they have changed due to the propaganda of social media.

People remember how internet was pre-2012? I remember it being fun and informative. Now it's a bit more subdued. Around 2012 or so, I saw literal articles popping up promoting censorship. It would be wrapped up with dubious headlines such as "Protecting You From the Internet." It was essentially a push to create a business to de-platform and control, and the board owners followed the propaganda and applied the standards without realizing the propaganda.

This was my theory just looking back at things. Then I noticed it got an uptick in 2016 and during Covid. I remember I was on another toyboard who asked for holiday stories about donations.

I posted a story how I donated 500 dollars plus worth of toys during 2020, and called C0viid "W00haaan(You get the idea of the real word) and my post was removed. I am not on Social Media so I do NOT keep up with new censorship pushes, but figured it out obviously. I never posted since and simply ignore the website now.

Funny thing is, ignoring the website, helped me stop collecting Hasbro/Star Wars figures, and clicking on advertisers link to buy things. So in many ways they hurt their own business through censorship.

I kind of think the elimination of former members is due to both censorship, it not being pre-2012, and people just moving over to more centralized media like Reddit, Insagram, Facebook, Twitter and so on. Many message boards will continue to hurt their own initiative.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Somehow... I survived.

 

[MarkKing]

Somehow... I survived.

Yes, ""sOmEhOw pAlPaTiNe rEtUrNeD/sUriVed."

 

[MeatHookGekko]

Vindication is sweet.

Even if its paternity fraud?

 

[MeatHookGekko]

Who was the dude who opted for the nuclear exit with all those porn gifs a few years back?

That's not a nuclear exit. A nuclear exit is twerking in front of an old woman in a wheelchair trying to escape you as you both realize she is no longer your future mother in law. Or doing a backflip, then touching the seat to make sure it's still warm, before continuing to dance.



I'm dying here. I'm literally dying here.

 

[MeatHookGekko]

I am sort of new, but what I have seen from message boards is they have changed due to the propaganda of social media...People remember how internet was pre-2012? I remember it being fun and informative. Now it's a bit more subdued. Around 2012 or so, I saw literal articles popping up promoting censorship. It would be wrapped up with dubious headlines such as "Protecting You From the Internet."

These kind of discussion forums with a structure like this or OSW is mostly antiquated. For the most part, the majority of the membership will likely be in an age range where using these kind of forums, as such, was normalized for them a long time ago. I'm sure there are younger people here, but odds are the core of these forums are 40-55 in demographic. Best odds I'd say.

When widespread internet was accessible ( when the price of a PC desktop dropped enough where many could afford them in the 300-400 dollar range and when dial up internet shifted from per minute fee to one monthly flat fee), more people from all types and backgrounds were on the internet more often as it was new and interesting. Effectively it was the Wild West but with more people. Then as time went on, there was a filter down towards people who used the internet as a proxy for most of their day to day socialization. Later than that, more people trying to game various algorithms, social media ( including some trying to turn it into a career) and immersive video games only made things more difficult.

The biggest nail in the coffin was the general breakdown of the stock and trade nuclear family and the "cancel culture" Now what you say, what you support, what you think and choose to share in public might make you lose your career. Or get you targeted for death threats. Or make you a pariah.

There is probably a more than high correlation between spending a lot of time online as a proxy for "community" and the odds of poor overall socialization and poor regulation of healthy "boundaries" Is that everyone in that range? No, probably not, but it's likely a damn lot of them.

Something my uncle taught me as a kid is that people who are deeply broken on the inside are always lethal. A drowning man will grab onto anyone near them and to get two more gasps of air will drag that other person down with them into the depths. Into the abyss if it comes to that. My uncle would say, "People who live off of soup sandwiches don't care about common sense. They only care about how hearing "No" makes them feel"

Something I've learned as I've gotten older is once I've assessed that someone is deeply broken, I can choose to walk away ( most of the time that's the best course) or if it crosses to many indefensible lines, then out of principle, I'll have to hurt them. (Which is very rare) I also recognize my version of hurting people and other people's version of hurting people is vastly different. Worlds apart. What I've stopped doing is try to negotiate with their pathology. You can't eat a soup sandwich. But some people try.

I try to conserve my emotions for the people I love. And for those where I have obligations. I don't see the upside in giving it freely to those who are drowning and don't realize they don't want to die and they don't want to be saved at the exact same time. They are just content with perpetually drowning. But that's me. Just some thoughts.

 

[MarkKing]

These kind of discussion forums with a structure like this or OSW is mostly antiquated. For the most part, the majority of the membership will likely be in an age range where using these kind of forums, as such, was normalized for them a long time ago. I'm sure there are younger people here, but odds are the core of these forums are 40-55 in demographic. Best odds I'd say.

When widespread internet was accessible ( when the price of a PC desktop dropped enough where many could afford them in the 300-400 dollar range and when dial up internet shifted from per minute fee to one monthly flat fee), more people from all types and backgrounds were on the internet more often as it was new and interesting. Effectively it was the Wild West but with more people. Then as time went on, there was a filter down towards people who used the internet as a proxy for most of their day to day socialization. Later than that, more people trying to game various algorithms, social media ( including some trying to turn it into a career) and immersive video games only made things more difficult.

The biggest nail in the coffin was the general breakdown of the stock and trade nuclear family and the "cancel culture" Now what you say, what you support, what you think and choose to share in public might make you lose your career. Or get you targeted for death threats. Or make you a pariah.

There is probably a more than high correlation between spending a lot of time online as a proxy for "community" and the odds of poor overall socialization and poor regulation of healthy "boundaries" Is that everyone in that range? No, probably not, but it's likely a damn lot of them.

Something my uncle taught me as a kid is that people who are deeply broken on the inside are always lethal. A drowning man will grab onto anyone near them and to get two more gasps of air will drag that other person down with them into the depths. Into the abyss if it comes to that. My uncle would say, "People who live off of soup sandwiches don't care about common sense. They only care about how hearing "No" makes them feel"

Something I've learned as I've gotten older is once I've assessed that someone is deeply broken, I can choose to walk away ( most of the time that's the best course) or if it crosses to many indefensible lines, then out of principle, I'll have to hurt them. (Which is very rare) I also recognize my version of hurting people and other people's version of hurting people is vastly different. Worlds apart. What I've stopped doing is try to negotiate with their pathology. You can't eat a soup sandwich. But some people try.

I try to conserve my emotions for the people I love. And for those where I have obligations. I don't see the upside in giving it freely to those who are drowning and don't realize they don't want to die and they don't want to be saved at the exact same time. They are just content with perpetually drowning. But that's me. Just some thoughts.

Cancel culture modern, seems to be rumored to be part of the CIA/our own government realizing print media/msm was dying and wanted control around 2008 or so when I heard those rumors online about what was to come. They saw social media spreading and needed to restrict.

I work with kids now, and comparing what I heard in the late 90s to early 2000s, the biggest word usage differences I hear is the use of "That's racist." Those are new words never uttered in schools where I attended and wasn't in mainstream usage imo until 2012 or so.

If adults are susceptible to suggestions, imagine kids. We all are through propaganda but some moreso that others.

Kids are NOT on message boards. All I see is Youtube, Tiktok, Instagram and Twitter. Of course all this is on their cell phones which is a big problem in the schools now.

Most likely many older member were banned, quit due to the "current thing," or they themselves moved on to social media. When I get censored/see new agendas, I simply move on with my life. It's hard to love something then move on. I did it with videogames, Disney, Star Wars, Marvel....fast food, sodas....and so on.

I am not a long standing member and it's my best guess above why people leave...and probably the hobby might be a financial burden is another big reason.

 

[devilof76]

Cancel culture modern, seems to be rumored to be part of the CIA/our own government realizing print media/msm was dying and wanted control around 2008 or so when I heard those rumors online about what was to come. They saw social media spreading and needed to restrict.

I work with kids now, and comparing what I heard in the late 90s to early 2000s, the biggest word usage differences I hear is the use of "That's racist." Those are new words never uttered in schools where I attended and wasn't in mainstream usage imo until 2012 or so.

If adults are susceptible to suggestions, imagine kids. We all are through propaganda but some moreso that others.

Kids are NOT on message boards. All I see is Youtube, Tiktok, Instagram and Twitter. Of course all this is on their cell phones which is a big problem in the schools now.

Most likely many older member were banned, quit due to the "current thing," or they themselves moved on to social media. When I get censored/see new agendas, I simply move on with my life. It's hard to love something then move on. I did it with videogames, Disney, Star Wars, Marvel....fast food, sodas....and so on.

I am not a long standing member and it's my best guess above why people leave...and probably the hobby might be a financial burden is another big reason.

There were a lot of kids in forums at one point. They were raised gaming online and learned to talk smack without consequences. I was never a member of the Spawn board, but I recall hearing how they completely destroyed it. They eventually found boards where adults frequented, and decided they could be the same punks they were everywhere else they had never been housetrained.

The adults were mostly Gen-X types who had been raised to know what kind of consequences followed from being a punk and they were having none of it. They took it upon themselves to encourage intelligent behavior while backhanding the entitled and uncivilized. The rub was that admins appreciated the traffic surge and found the guerrilla moderation to be a bane. The brats knew the trick of crying ‘bully’ and the older crowd moved on.

The predictable result was that the children took over and things went full Lord of the Flies. This coincided with the emergence of cancel culture, and by then, there was no one left but alt-right thugs and hipster nuns. Since manipulation and status were the guiding stars of both sides, it all went straight to hell. The presumptive right were outright animals and the presumptive left were whiny pushovers. The characters who had previously occupied those roles had learned to live in peace and found a way to enjoy each other’s company without being complete fckwits. The new breed were boiler plate trolls who styled themselves kings of an abandoned dunghill, lording over sheepish nerds who just wanted to be left alone. What was once a highly diverse and animated crowd of genuinely cool (and smart) people discussing toys and everything else under the sun, had now devolved into a cheap caricature of what once was; a reflection of the zombified political division that has come to define online social life.

When the trash was banned or took their ball home, the vacuum was filled by spambots and the forum almost died. Some time during the Covid era, people must have been bored enough to start posting again. They found a clean slate and the members who had never been caught up in any of the prior drama were still here doing what they always had.

It’s not remotely what it was in the golden age. There is no going back to that glory. But it’s nice enough, and there are still a few legendary members around to keep the myth alive. When they finally go, you’re like to not see their kind again. That was the old way.

 

[MarkKing]

There were a lot of kids in forums at one point. They were raised gaming online and learned to talk smack without consequences. I was never a member of the Spawn board, but I recall hearing how they completely destroyed it. They eventually found boards where adults frequented, and decided they could be the same punks they were everywhere else they had never been housetrained.

The adults were mostly Gen-X types who had been raised to know what kind of consequences followed from being a punk and they were having none of it. They took it upon themselves to encourage intelligent behavior while backhanding the entitled and uncivilized. The rub was that admins appreciated the traffic surge and found the guerrilla moderation to be a bane. The brats knew the trick of crying ‘bully’ and the older crowd moved on.

The predictable result was that the children took over and things went full Lord of the Flies. This coincided with the emergence of cancel culture, and by then, there was no one left but alt-right thugs and hipster nuns. Since manipulation and status were the guiding stars of both sides, it all went straight to hell. The presumptive right were outright animals and the presumptive left were whiny pushovers. The characters who had previously occupied those roles had learned to live in peace and found a way to enjoy each other’s company without being complete fckwits. The new breed were boiler plate trolls who styled themselves kings of an abandoned dunghill, lording over sheepish nerds who just wanted to be left alone. What was once a highly diverse and animated crowd of genuinely cool (and smart) people discussing toys and everything else under the sun, had now devolved into a cheap caricature of what once was; a reflection of the zombified political division that has come to define online social life.

When the trash was banned or took their ball home, the vacuum was filled by spambots and the forum almost died. Some time during the Covid era, people must have been bored enough to start posting again. They found a clean slate and the members who had never been caught up in any of the prior drama were still here doing what they always had.

It’s not remotely what it was in the golden age. There is no going back to that glory. But it’s nice enough, and there are still a few legendary members around to keep the myth alive. When they finally go, you’re like to not see their kind again. That was the old way.

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I love seeing old photos game developers in the 90's. They were classical nerd looking guys....baggy clothing, jeans, white sneakers, trucker/baseball hats....modern gaming photos are shall we say....full of people not looking like the game developing type.

Found a google search of what I mean. Sort of probably like this message board, the current thing replaced long standing members with guys who may not care that much about the hobby. I do think what heppens is guys who once loved the board and wanted others to help them decide what to buy, simply do not care about the opinions of others and sort of leveled up.

Kind of what happened to me with the 6 inch scale. I needed others to tell me what to buy, because being new to that scene also, I needed to figure it all out. Once I gained the knowledge, I moved on sort of...also the fact that Hasbro went into a decline.

 

[potato]

I am sort of new, but what I have seen from message boards is they have changed due to the propaganda of social media.

People remember how internet was pre-2012? I remember it being fun and informative. Now it's a bit more subdued. Around 2012 or so, I saw literal articles popping up promoting censorship. It would be wrapped up with dubious headlines such as "Protecting You From the Internet." It was essentially a push to create a business to de-platform and control, and the board owners followed the propaganda and applied the standards without realizing the propaganda.

This was my theory just looking back at things. Then I noticed it got an uptick in 2016 and during Covid. I remember I was on another toyboard who asked for holiday stories about donations.

I posted a story how I donated 500 dollars plus worth of toys during 2020, and called C0viid "W00haaan(You get the idea of the real word) and my post was removed. I am not on Social Media so I do NOT keep up with new censorship pushes, but figured it out obviously. I never posted since and simply ignore the website now.

Funny thing is, ignoring the website, helped me stop collecting Hasbro/Star Wars figures, and clicking on advertisers link to buy things. So in many ways they hurt their own business through censorship.

I kind of think the elimination of former members is due to both censorship, it not being pre-2012, and people just moving over to more centralized media like Reddit, Insagram, Facebook, Twitter and so on. Many message boards will continue to hurt their own initiative.

a funny joke post in 2012 would get you permabanned without warning in 2023. times changed.