Noticed many old members banned. What happened actually?

[potato]

Cancel culture modern, seems to be rumored to be part of the CIA/our own government realizing print media/msm was dying and wanted control around 2008 or so when I heard those rumors online about what was to come. They saw social media spreading and needed to restrict.

I work with kids now, and comparing what I heard in the late 90s to early 2000s, the biggest word usage differences I hear is the use of "That's racist." Those are new words never uttered in schools where I attended and wasn't in mainstream usage imo until 2012 or so.

If adults are susceptible to suggestions, imagine kids. We all are through propaganda but some moreso that others.

Kids are NOT on message boards. All I see is Youtube, Tiktok, Instagram and Twitter. Of course all this is on their cell phones which is a big problem in the schools now.

Most likely many older member were banned, quit due to the "current thing," or they themselves moved on to social media. When I get censored/see new agendas, I simply move on with my life. It's hard to love something then move on. I did it with videogames, Disney, Star Wars, Marvel....fast food, sodas....and so on.

I am not a long standing member and it's my best guess above why people leave...and probably the hobby might be a financial burden is another big reason.

am sure when most people say that is racist, they dont give 2 cents about racism, its about trying getting you caught in the act of being racist.

what made many people act in this way, my thoughts are simply due to the heavy censorship and moderation among online platforms most notably old skool forums. Such restriction, when carried out with little tolerance, restricts freedom of speech that a person can no longer voice out anything remote to sensitive topics even though the person had no bad intentions the result is usually a minimum suspension.

when more and more people gets punished for such minor issues they stopped typing such things and instead become moral police helping mods identify and report such posts by other members. Soon the forum becomes less fun coz nowadays you cant joke about anything because a joke usually involves someone or something, maybe an animal like a marmot and some weta folks would protest about it.

cant imagine how it would be in another 10 years assuming society survives ww3, forums probably be dead.

what surprises me is that usually extreme views are posted on heavy censorship platforms and they just let them sit there for exposure. i guess as long they benefit from it right?

and of course many once popular forums were destroyed by power hungry flexing mods that goes on powertrips. Anything they dont like to see yet cant find a reason to punish the user theres always this wild card called "Trolling" to get you suspended. Happened to me here just because i posted views not in line with the majority on some threads totally on topic.

 

[potato]

I love seeing old photos game developers in the 90's. They were classical nerd looking guys....baggy clothing, jeans, white sneakers, trucker/baseball hats....modern gaming photos are shall we say....full of people not looking like the game developing type.

Found a google search of what I mean. Sort of probably like this message board, the current thing replaced long standing members with guys who may not care that much about the hobby. I do think what heppens is guys who once loved the board and wanted others to help them decide what to buy, simply do not care about the opinions of others and sort of leveled up.

Kind of what happened to me with the 6 inch scale. I needed others to tell me what to buy, because being new to that scene also, I needed to figure it all out. Once I gained the knowledge, I moved on sort of...also the fact that Hasbro went into a decline.

never ever have i ever asked someone what figure to buy lol. but in the older days we dont have 10 companies making ironman so i dont really have much choice if i want a character toy lol.

 

[devilof76]

a funny joke post in 2012 would get you permabanned without warning in 2023. times changed.

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[MarkKing]

a funny joke post in 2012 would get you permabanned without warning in 2023. times changed.

I really think it's not the times but the push of government censorship. There is some statistics to show this, but essentially certain demographics and gender are very susceptible to agreeableness. It ties into why certain people leave certain groups.

I used to be a REAL reporter and reporting background, and the things I see from former colleagues are not what they were trained to be. Essentially they were taught to write truth and not opinion, now they outright lie to fit the current thing. I don't want to get more in-depth than that.

But some people would rather not play that game and move on. Just my experience with boards I have been on toy wise, the same thing happened, where they couldn't keep up, or didn't want to keep up with the new government pushed societal construct.

That and then I am still in the begining phase of understanding 1/6 quality. Sometimes I look at clothing for example, and think it's passable, dare I say good...then someone points out the tailoring. I am still learning, but one day I think I will learn all I can and not need the opinion of others. It's mastery of a craft essentially. I may move one eventually as there will be nothing more to learn.

 

[potato]

I really think it's not the times but the push of government censorship. There is some statistics to show this, but essentially certain demographics and gender are very susceptible to agreeableness. It ties into why certain people leave certain groups.

I used to be a REAL reporter and reporting background, and the things I see from former colleagues are not what they were trained to be. Essentially they were taught to write truth and not opinion, now they outright lie to fit the current thing. I don't want to get more in-depth than that.

But some people would rather not play that game and move on. Just my experience with boards I have been on toy wise, the same thing happened, where they couldn't keep up, or didn't want to keep up with the new government pushed societal construct.

That and then I am still in the begining phase of understanding 1/6 quality. Sometimes I look at clothing for example, and think it's passable, dare I say good...then someone points out the tailoring. I am still learning, but one day I think I will learn all I can and not need the opinion of others. It's mastery of a craft essentially. I may move one eventually as there will be nothing more to learn.

i forgot the quote but it goes by all it takes for something is for someone to do nothing.

 

[DioramaMaker]

There were a lot of kids in forums at one point. They were raised gaming online and learned to talk smack without consequences. I was never a member of the Spawn board, but I recall hearing how they completely destroyed it. They eventually found boards where adults frequented, and decided they could be the same punks they were everywhere else they had never been housetrained.

This is largely untrue. Perhaps this was the narrative through which the "adults" of the Spawn forum chose to see it, but it's just categorically false.

I know it because I was there, down to the minute it went offline. I'd been a member there from 2007 until close, probably categorized with "kids" as they likely would have labeled me at the time of joining. It's a funny thing that this would strike a cord, but I found a lot of solace in a community which I could talk collecting when I had no "IRL" friends who shared the hobby. Those forums really were great, and for the most part the populace was welcoming and diverse.

I'll tell you that it wasn't the younger members flooding the forums with porn gifs as the ship began to sink. It wasn't the new folks who would lament the state of the world and become aggressive at anything which wasn't to their interests. It wasn't the "youths" who would chastise customs and run off people trying to break into the hobby.

What happened was Todd McFarlane decided to leave behind what he was doing, rebrand, and pursue different licenses, including Halo (something that brought a very new audience to his site). The classic members and audience didn't like that, and immediately pointed their pitchforks at the newcomers. Scorned as many Spawn fans were, most were able to come together over a love for collecting as a whole. There was quite a community there for tons of niches. It was much better than the Fwoosh forums ever were.

You know who was insufferable? The old curmudgeons who couldn't look at someone else's enjoyment and appreciate that joy for what it was. I'm not denying that some of the audience associated with the brands Todd pursued had toxicity and at times brought that to the forums, but it was few and far between. It was to a much lesser extent compared to the oldies.

I still full well believe that their behavior and hostility was a reason Todd pulled the plug on the forums so abruptly. As he moved into a broader audience, the less he could risk having a site associated with him which could look bad. Plus, the forums rarely spoke of HIS products any longer. He wasn't the biggest fish in the rapidly expanding collectibles world. NECA was doing what McF did...just better.

The old members went to a private forum. This wiki entry regarding the successor site speaks volumes to what that audience was.

"In 2011, a few individuals who worked for Todd Mcfarlane Productions were asked to be a part of the board and they agreed to become members and provide news, updates and Q&A's if necessary. However a few members of the boards became hostile toward the employees. One of which was a member who went by the name of Zildjian. His increasing aggression towards them mixed with a few others, but mostly Zildjian, became so hostile that the employees of TMP removed themselves from the board, leaving it with no interaction with TMP, thus severing all ties to the old message board completely."

 

[potato]

This is largely untrue. Perhaps this was the narrative through which the "adults" of the Spawn forum chose to see it, but it's just categorically false.

I know it because I was there, down to the minute it went offline. I'd been a member there from 2007 until close, probably categorized with "kids" as they likely would have labeled me at the time of joining. It's a funny thing that this would strike a cord, but I found a lot of solace in a community which I could talk collecting when I had no "IRL" friends who shared the hobby. Those forums really were great, and for the most part the populace was welcoming and diverse.

I'll tell you that it wasn't the younger members flooding the forums with porn gifs as the ship began to sink. It wasn't the new folks who would lament the state of the world and become aggressive at anything which wasn't to their interests. It wasn't the "youths" who would chastise customs and run off people trying to break into the hobby.

What happened was Todd McFarlane decided to leave behind what he was doing, rebrand, and pursue different licenses, including Halo (something that brought a very new audience to his site). The classic members and audience didn't like that, and immediately pointed their pitchforks at the newcomers. Scorned as many Spawn fans were, most were able to come together over a love for collecting as a whole. There was quite a community there for tons of niches. It was much better than the Fwoosh forums ever were.

You know who was insufferable? The old curmudgeons who couldn't look at someone else's enjoyment and appreciate that joy for what it was. I'm not denying that some of the audience associated with the brands Todd pursued had toxicity and at times brought that to the forums, but it was few and far between. It was to a much lesser extent compared to the oldies.

I still full well believe that their behavior and hostility was a reason Todd pulled the plug on the forums so abruptly. As he moved into a broader audience, the less he could risk having a site associated with him which could look bad. Plus, the forums rarely spoke of HIS products any longer. He wasn't the biggest fish in the rapidly expanding collectibles world. NECA was doing what McF did...just better.

The old members went to a private forum. This wiki entry regarding the successor site speaks volumes to what that audience was.

"In 2011, a few individuals who worked for Todd Mcfarlane Productions were asked to be a part of the board and they agreed to become members and provide news, updates and Q&A's if necessary. However a few members of the boards became hostile toward the employees. One of which was a member who went by the name of Zildjian. His increasing aggression towards them mixed with a few others, but mostly Zildjian, became so hostile that the employees of TMP removed themselves from the board, leaving it with no interaction with TMP, thus severing all ties to the old message board completely."

Todd sounded like someone that cared for his customers.Too bad.

 

[Solidus]

Anyone remember when a mod removed Bodie’s visitor wall and he started blasting Dave? Went out in a blaze of glory, he did

I also recall when Henry Morgan pretended to be a dude in the Marvel section and catfished a few guys into falling in love with him. Allegedly, he self-banned after he was called out on it.

This forum was so weird.

 

[Wor-Gar]

 

[devilof76]

This is largely untrue. Perhaps this was the narrative through which the "adults" of the Spawn forum chose to see it, but it's just categorically false.

I know it because I was there, down to the minute it went offline. I'd been a member there from 2007 until close, probably categorized with "kids" as they likely would have labeled me at the time of joining. It's a funny thing that this would strike a cord, but I found a lot of solace in a community which I could talk collecting when I had no "IRL" friends who shared the hobby. Those forums really were great, and for the most part the populace was welcoming and diverse.

I'll tell you that it wasn't the younger members flooding the forums with porn gifs as the ship began to sink. It wasn't the new folks who would lament the state of the world and become aggressive at anything which wasn't to their interests. It wasn't the "youths" who would chastise customs and run off people trying to break into the hobby.

What happened was Todd McFarlane decided to leave behind what he was doing, rebrand, and pursue different licenses, including Halo (something that brought a very new audience to his site). The classic members and audience didn't like that, and immediately pointed their pitchforks at the newcomers. Scorned as many Spawn fans were, most were able to come together over a love for collecting as a whole. There was quite a community there for tons of niches. It was much better than the Fwoosh forums ever were.

You know who was insufferable? The old curmudgeons who couldn't look at someone else's enjoyment and appreciate that joy for what it was. I'm not denying that some of the audience associated with the brands Todd pursued had toxicity and at times brought that to the forums, but it was few and far between. It was to a much lesser extent compared to the oldies.

I still full well believe that their behavior and hostility was a reason Todd pulled the plug on the forums so abruptly. As he moved into a broader audience, the less he could risk having a site associated with him which could look bad. Plus, the forums rarely spoke of HIS products any longer. He wasn't the biggest fish in the rapidly expanding collectibles world. NECA was doing what McF did...just better.

The old members went to a private forum. This wiki entry regarding the successor site speaks volumes to what that audience was.

"In 2011, a few individuals who worked for Todd Mcfarlane Productions were asked to be a part of the board and they agreed to become members and provide news, updates and Q&A's if necessary. However a few members of the boards became hostile toward the employees. One of which was a member who went by the name of Zildjian. His increasing aggression towards them mixed with a few others, but mostly Zildjian, became so hostile that the employees of TMP removed themselves from the board, leaving it with no interaction with TMP, thus severing all ties to the old message board completely."

Oh.

It was what happened at Rebelscum and it was what happened here.

I don’t have experience with the Spawn board to know one way or another, but that does sound remarkably like the narrative which the persecuted children at both of the boards I did know used to nail themselves to their own crosses.

 

[devilof76]

Anyone remember when a mod removed Bodie’s visitor wall and he started blasting Dave? Went out in a blaze of glory, he did

I also recall when Henry Morgan pretended to be a dude in the Marvel section and catfished a few guys into falling in love with him. Allegedly, he self-banned after he was called out on it.

This forum was so weird.

Do you remember Crix?

 

[xipotec]

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I mean Mel made fun of powerful in groups most of the time, and Nazis....

So not sure who would have felt offended by that?

And who cares if Nazis are offended?

 

[BACON!]

I was a member of the Spawn board for many years and even went to 2 or 3 IRL spawn board gatherings to meet the members. Always a great and cordial time. At one point the board was a welcoming community, but yes, it certainly did devolve. I just consider that digital entropy. All these things are meant to fall apart at some point, and looking for a cause is relatively pointless

 

[Wor-Gar]

I mean Mel made fun of powerful in groups most of the time, and Nazis....

So not sure who would have felt offended by that?

Sounds like you need to rewatch Blazing Saddles, my friend.

 

[xipotec]

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I mean Mel made fun of powerful in groups most of the time, and Nazis....

So not sure who would have felt offended by that?

And who cares if Nazis are offended

Sounds like you need to rewatch Blazing Saddles, my friend.

I watch it all the time.....

Most of it was poking fun at in groups....

but you are correct, when it comes to the end they definitely poked at the gay crowd....that sort of fell out of fashion in the 90's....

They definitely had the black hero in that film, which was quite progressive. The sheriff was the one constantly winning.

I would cite Spaceballs as a more even lampooning of everyone. But he is always careful to stick with tropes that the groups themselves ls are mostly comfortable with.

Having rewatch Delirious by Eddie Murphy I was shocked at the constant gay bashing humor. Its like the entire first 1/2 hour.

 

[potato]

I mean Mel made fun of powerful in groups most of the time, and Nazis....

So not sure who would have felt offended by that?

And who cares if Nazis are offended?

neo nazis are running canada, new zealand and few other nations after they escaped or bought their way out using loot money from wwii. if i were them i would feel offended when someone insult my what i regard as shiny heritage.

 

[potato]

I mean Mel made fun of powerful in groups most of the time, and Nazis....

So not sure who would have felt offended by that?

And who cares if Nazis are offended

I watch it all the time.....

Most of it was poking fun at in groups....

but you are correct, when it comes to the end they definitely poked at the gay crowd....that sort of fell out of fashion in the 90's....

They definitely had the black hero in that film, which was quite progressive. The sheriff was the one constantly winning.

I would cite Spaceballs as a more even lampooning of everyone. But he is always careful to stick with tropes that the groups themselves ls are mostly comfortable with.

Having rewatch Delirious by Eddie Murphy I was shocked at the constant gay bashing humor. Its like the entire first 1/2 hour.

i believe in terms of ratio, the group being joked about ends up having higher viewership because they are curious about how a film insults their group before they can go on strike.

its like gucci approach, look down on your customers you deem sitting on the fence on a purchase and infuriate them so they buy your product just to show you a point. i guess everyone's a winner here. Gucci made a sales and customer proved their worthiness.

 

[Lejuan]

community note: "Neo nazis are not running New Zealand. The lack of prosecution action in regard to Nazi war criminals alleged to have settled in New Zealand at the end of World War 2 is based on New Zealand law and should not imply in any way a legislative or executive accommodation of Nazis in that country."

 

[MeatHookGekko]

I was a member of the Spawn board for many years and even went to 2 or 3 IRL spawn board gatherings to meet the members. Always a great and cordial time. At one point the board was a welcoming community, but yes, it certainly did devolve. I just consider that digital entropy. All these things are meant to fall apart at some point, and looking for a cause is relatively pointless

What if you were the common denominator but you didn't even know it?

I used to go to a gym where it was fairly big, and there was a section on the top floor, and it had a restaurant inside of it. And when business was not doing well, the owner of the restaurant would start cooking bacon. You could smell bacon in the pool. In the free weight room. In the classes. At the front lobby. EVERYWHERE. And I'm sure it drove people nuts. In both a good and bad way.

What if after you left this IRL events, that the crowds turned on each other. Like dogs fighting over....bacon. And you just weren't there to see the total carnage. (Mind you, I'm a survivor of countless Korean destination weddings, so I understand relentless carnage)

What if Kate Brown went totally nutty in Oregon because she couldn't have you and all she really wanted to do was lick your face. Or put you between some English Muffins with an egg and some cheddar cheese....What if those 100 plus nights of chaos in Portland was really about people in angst over not having you.....

I can see Kate Brown, outside your house, wearing a trench coat and holding up a boom box like Lloyd Dobbler, saying.... "YOU! YOU GOT WHAT I NEED!...."

 

[MeatHookGekko]