Obama's speech....

[Nuka Cola Kidd]

I thought it was nothing but empty promises and just saying stuff people want to hear. He won't do any of it.

Im with ya

 

[Darth Cruel]

Wake up voters. Please don't perpetuate the problem. It is fast getting to the point where the term "voters" is getting synonymous with the term "chattle". Every 4 years we here the party not in administration snivelling about "time for change". But the Democrats NOR the Republicans have changed a damn thing for 50 years.

Stop wasting your votes on unworthy candidates. Your vote is precious. Treat it like it is.

Please!

 

[Vader AL]

i don't care to hear any party speeches, bring on the debates!!!!!

 

[barbelith]

But the Democrats NOR the Republicans have changed a damn thing for 50 years.

I never understand this perspective. This country is quite a distance from 1958 and for most people who aren't rich white straight men it's been for the better. And even if we narrow the scope to recent memory, this country is in a very different place than it was just 10 years ago under Bill Clinton.

 

[The Josh]

I never understand this perspective. This country is quite a distance from 1958 and for most people who aren't rich white straight men it's been for the better. And even if we narrow the scope to recent memory, this country is in a very different place than it was just 10 years ago under Bill Clinton.

I agree with you totally. I talk with my Dad about it all the time.

As far as it not being like it was under Clinton. You damn right we actually weren't in debt and didn't have everyone hating us.

 

[The Mike]

Hmmm....fairly surprised that this is going on as far as it is without degrading into the normal political fanfare....wonder if it will make it past a full day....

 

[Nolocke]

Vote turd sandwich!!!

 

[DarkArtist81]

I thought it was great.

Me too.

 

[Darth Cruel]

I never understand this perspective. This country is quite a distance from 1958 and for most people who aren't rich white straight men it's been for the better. And even if we narrow the scope to recent memory, this country is in a very different place than it was just 10 years ago under Bill Clinton.

Fill me in. I ain't seein' any improvements that can be directly attributed to Republicans or Democrats. This country has pulled itself along DESPITE the Presidents. Not because of them. This is a great Nation. And we need a leader who will maximize the potential all around. Not one that will just stroke our own pet ideals a little better than the other guy. And we haven't had one since Abraham Lincoln.

Sorry, the general lack of knowledge that I see in the voters every 4 years makes me angry to no end. People run around talking the most un-informed tripe as if it is the wisdom of the ages (and yes, I do see that it can be said that I am doing the same thing). And it only takes a simple application of common sense to see through it.

Unfortunately, I am one of those guys that gets threads shut down because of my intense feelings for this subject. I hope everyone realizes that I know the people on these forums are good people. I just really get upset when people fall for the politspeak and then vote for a liar. I am tired beyond words of the Democrats and Republicans offering us garbage for Presidential candidates. And I am tired of the voters supporting it. There are worthy candidates out there. And it is not out of the realm of possibility to get one of the worthy ones to lead us. It happened with George Washington. It can happen again.

 

[Bodie The Cursed]

Obama has my vote.. Its rare for a politician to inspire me.. Great speech, I was moved.

 

[Khev]

Did he mention his support of Partial-Birth Abortion? Sorry, but I'll vote for Dr. Doom before this guy.

 

[Buttmunch]

I thought he was full of hot air and promissed way more than he could ever deliever. Plus I don't see how he could cut taxes yet go crazy and do all of that crap he claims he will do.

I also found it laughable how Obama had to wait a good three minutes to start his speech because of all of the mindless aplause. Plus all of the "thank yous." I swear if he said "dog poop" they would have cheered.

 

[DarkArtist81]

Obama has my vote.. Its rare for a politician to inspire me.. Great speech, I was moved.

Same here, not many have ever done it... He's got my vote too, no doubts.

 

[The Mike]

84,000 people who trekked out there just to see him and you're surprised he got three minutes of applause and repeat standing ovations? You'll see the same thing next week for McCain, this is prime "sell your candidate" time because the country is watching. What will really show how tight this race will be will come in the next few days. Who he picks as VP which should be announced tomorrow will be a major pivotal piece and what he says at his show will definitely be the pulse of the race. Despite your feelings on the race or the candidates, Obama was extremely well focused and well spoken. He gave a speech that felt like he was already President and that will be what McCain has to beat at this point.

 

[Buttmunch]

84,000 people who trekked out there just to see him and you're surprised he got three minutes of applause and repeat standing ovations? You'll see the same thing next week for McCain, this is prime "sell your candidate" time because the country is watching. What will really show how tight this race will be will come in the next few days. Who he picks as VP which should be announced tomorrow will be a major pivotal piece and what he says at his show will definitely be the pulse of the race. Despite your feelings on the race or the candidates, Obama was extremely well focused and well spoken. He gave a speech that felt like he was already President and that will be what McCain has to beat at this point.

Yeah I felt the three minutes of applause was a bit much. You could tell he was even getting annoyed. After the 10th "thank you so much," they should have stopped.

If McCain picks Mitt Romney tomorrow, I'd say we will have quite an interesting election, but if he picks anyone else, I'm pretty sure Obama will win. I just feel McCain's miltary experience and Romney's economic experience hits the two major issues very well. Plus Romney was the #2 guy behind McCain in the primaries.

I'm still shocked Obama didn't pick Hillary. When your party is divided 51/49 it only makes sense to choose the other person running as your VP. I think that will really hurt him as that 49% could possibly jump ship and vote McCain.

 

[gdb]

He did get more specific than he had in the past. I also thought that McCain won't go to the cave Osama is hiding in was an unfortunate choice of words. He meant that we're wasting time and resources in Iraq when we could be concentrating on Afghanistan, but he went for the unfortunate sound bite.

Otherwise I thought the speech was very well done. I'm hoping that I'm on the cusp of middle class so I don't have to pay the higher taxes though.

That was my favorate line! It's what I've been shouting at the TV everytime McCain uses his gates of hell line. Obama was refering to the fact that he is in favor of striking within Pakistan (with credible knowlege) to get Bin Laden and that McCain has said that he would not. McCain wants to chase Bin Laden to the gates of hell but draws the line at chasing him into Pakistan?

 

[automaton]

"But the Democrats NOR the Republicans have changed a damn thing for 50 years."


are you kidding? the loss of Habeus Corpus and due process of law seems like a significant change... the very things that built this country are slipping away.

 

[nash]

Obama has most of Hawaii's vote as well. I dont think McCain stands a chance really.

 

[automaton]

Obama has most of Hawaii's vote as well. I dont think McCain stands a chance really.

i wish i shared your optimism... but i do share your hope.

 

[carbo-fation]

Great speech. One of the best I've heard in a long time. He def. has my vote although none of our votes really matter.