Obamas tax plan

[CelticPredator]

Well...lets wait before we say things like that. I dont want McCain to win, but I dont hate the guy, and I really hope if he wins, he does well...but thats just me.

 

[RoboDad]

I don't say that just because Obama is likely going to win the White House (although that is a part of it). I say it because there is such an alarming (and growing) number of people in this country who are openly embracing such hideously revolting ideologies.

Kruschev was right, I guess. The American people are gullible. So gullible that they have been spoon fed socialism to the point that they now actually like the taste of it.

 

[CelticPredator]

Why dont you wait? What if thats exacly what we need? Would you admit you were wrong?

 

[The Josh]

Why dont you wait? What if thats exacly what we need? Would you admit you were wrong?

Republicans are never wrong don't you know that.

 

[RoboDad]

I'm not wrong. There are hundreds of years of history that back up my perspective. Socialism is not now, nor will it ever be "exactly what we need".

 

[Anzik]

We are endowed by Darwinism with certain unalienable rights. Among these are life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, $30,000 a year income, and a free health care policah, no matter how little you do to improve your station in life.

 

[RoboDad]

Republicans are never wrong don't you know that.

Good bye, Josh.

 

[Entropy]

That is a manipulative, specious argument, and you know it. By your ridiculous definition, if someone doesn't support the government providing all of these entitlement programs, then they are telling everyone else they are on their own. But that is not true. I am my brother's keeper. The GOVERNMENT is NOT.

But again, that is what Obama is banking on. Building up hate and distrust against the nameless, faceless other guy. He has what you think you deserve, so he is evil and you are good.

This nation is doomed.

*shrugs* Basically, you're either for government assistance programs or you're not.

And the notion that Obama is an agent of hate and division is so ludicrous.

Hopefully you're correct and the economically distressed, pro torture, pro wiretapping on Americans, disrespected around the world, nation as it has been under the incompetent Republican administration is doomed. Just 2 more days of the storm...

Let this mighty nation rise again and renew itself like a phoenix under President Obama! :chew

 

[RoboDad]

*shrugs* Basically, you're either for government assistance programs or you're not.

OK, let me say it again. Being opposed to government entitlements (assistance? ) does not mean being in favor of people doing nothing to help the fellow man. it means that it is an INDIVIDUAL responsibility, not a GOVERNMENTAL one.

 

[DarkArtist81]

Honestly, Welfare and other aid programs are a great help to the lower class.... Without them, we would be drowning in homeless right about now. But, that said I think that they need to be regulated better. We don't need people abusing the system to buy themselves a Cadillac.

And God... I can't wait for this week to end.. I am so sick of this election season I could freakin scream.

 

[Entropy]

I say it because there is such an alarming (and growing) number of people in this country who are openly embracing such hideously revolting ideologies.

Yup, that's how most of us have felt the last 8 years under W and his disastrous policies that have deeply hurt every aspect of our country.

Hopefully you have an open mind to a President Obama should he be elected and can acknowledge after his term that he was a great leader if that turns out to be the case. I have my doubts that the haters have that in them, but I have hope for them. I certainly will acknowledge a bad Obama presidency should he eff up this country as badly as the Republican administration has the last several years.

 

[Mesa]

He said the Bill Ayers was just a guy in his neighborhood but that was clearly not the case.[.quote]

Again, not true. Outside of a couple meetings in which they both set on a board they didn't hang out.



For years the Republicans had the advantage in financing and now that a Democrat has it you guys get all touchy. If McCain had all this money I guarantee you wouldn't be saying a thing.



Drilling isn't the answer. Plain and simple. I actually don't care for the fact he's now considering it. We need to find ways that take better care of the one and only planet we have to live on.



I have friends who are huge racists. Hate anyone not white but I'm not racists. So just because you have a friendship with someone doesn't make you that way.



I think we got some pretty serious issues. We're too much of a nation that only cares about "I" and not enough about "we". Not enough caring about your neighbor and doing whats right for the most amount of people. So yeah I think we have some fundamental flaws.

I heard something the other day that I think I agree with. MOST people who tend to vote Democrat honestly care about their neighbor while MOST that tend to vote Republican only care about themselves.

I agree but for me McCain is much weaker than in the areas that IMO really matter.

1. Economic Recovery and Growth
2. Education
3. Health Care
4. Taxes

Ya know you list the role of government but in the last 8 years under Bush they're more involved and have more access to our lives than ever before.



I don't think so. I think many of the worlds nations will look and see we have someone who is willing to talk when they need to and shoot when they need to. Unlike Bush or McCain who just want to shoot. We should never have gone into Iraq anyways. That was nothing more than payback for his dad's screw up. There where other places Afghanistan or Darfur that we should have been paying attention to.



No it hasn't. Not sure where you got that info but that is totally false. His tax level is 250k and has not dropped a single dime. The costs that he is going to raise is to major businesses like Exon Mobile. Companies that can afford to take that kind of a hit. Obama has some spending he will do but he's also going to be cutting things that don't work. Hence it balances out in the long run and McCain will increase spending too but also says he will freeze spending which totally doesn't make sense. In other words he has no clue as to what he's going to do so he says both to appease everyone.



Again not sure where you got your info but its so utterly false its funny. As far as the gun control we need more of it and we need to figure out a way to do better with the laws on the books. That way people who want to own guns can and keep guns out of the crazies hands. Is there something wrong with wanting to expand the educational system?

As a teacher we need to do more to make sure people can get the best education possible. Do more to help public schools instead of things like vouchers which only hurt the public schools. Help make college more affordable for people so its not something for only the wealthiest of the wealthy. If we help the educational system in this country more people get a better education and therefore now have more doors to better jobs.

A side note I had to get student loans to go to college. If not for those I wouldn't have been able to. Do things the way McCain and the Republicans want to and folks like me won't be able to go.



McCain isn't exactly squeaky clean either.



The tapes that are out there of that one sermon is bad and makes one wonder. I don't know how bad the guy is overall but its a mark on him. I don't however think Obama is anti American.



I think this again goes to words being taken and twisted to make things appear as if they're not. The whole redistribution of wealth in true terms come from those making the 250k pay in taxes and used as credits for those on the lower end of the scale. I'm not sure why this is much of an issue as it helps them dig out and get to a place they can move up. Yes, there will be people that take advantage but there are wealthy doing that now which IMO is way worse.

Anzik Hayes, I got about 7 pages to get through on catchup, hopefully not liek the rest of this tripe and hopefully you put this fool in his place.

 

[Anzik]

Josh is alright he just gets riled up. He's entitled to his opinion too and I don't fault him for that. And I like him too.
My life has shown me that the government's intervention generally does more harm than good.

 

[Mesa]

I did think it was funny that she got punked by a couple of radio DJs yesterday. I'm glad her staff is on top of things.

again, catching up, but the same french DJ's punked Mick Jagger and French president Jacque Sherack (spelling?). So they are good at what they do. she played if off with character.

 

[Mesa]

Josh is alright he just gets riled up. He's entitled to his opinion too and I don't fault him for that. And I like him too.
My life has shown me that the government's intervention generally does more harm than good.

I guess AH. Probably easier to accept "redistribtuion of wealth" when you live with mom/dad and/or grandma/grandpa paying the bills.

 

[carbo-fation]

I was all set to vote for Obama, I know much of what has been said is distortions from the right, but today he said something unforgiveable.

He was calling John McCain a sidekick to Bush - "McCain is Kato to Bush's Green Lantern."

Green LANTERN? How do you make that mistake? Obviously he has no handle on the nerd community and cannot relate to us if he doesn't know a Lantern from a Hornet.

guys, vote for the black guy.Mccain is no president material....

I represent the international community with all eyes on your people.Make the right choice !!!

Obama for President!

 

[Entropy]

I guess AH. Probably easier to accept "redistribtuion of wealth" when you live with mom/dad and/or grandma/grandpa paying the bills.

I liked how you edited it to make it bolder and bigger. Still, you could've gone a bit larger on the font. Josh might not see your jerkery.

 

[LordAzrael]

No, once again I'm totally correct. Thanks though. I don't care for Religious Conservatives because they want to poke their nose into my life and judge me. They're too busy casting stones. I'm not a perfect person and have plenty of my own faults. I accept them and everyday try to be a better person than I was the day before.

I guess you don't get the irony in that you don't want people sticking their nose in your business - but are quite happy with the democrats sticking their noses into the business of the "wealthy". Guess its ok as long as they do it unto others and not unto you eh ?

And guess it was ok for them to stick their noses into the life of Joe the Plumber for daring to ask a question of the Messiah. I mean it serves him right for not running a million miles when Obama approached him ? I mean - its fair game to illegally search government databases for dirt right ?

 

[Mesa]

I liked how you edited it to make it bolder and bigger. Still, you could've gone a bit larger on the font. Josh might not see your jerkery.

The more I read into the thread, the more disgusted I got at the ignorance on Josh's behalf that I was witnessing. Talk about being full of yourself. Fortunately, I don't have to ask permission from mommy/daddy to post this.

 

[CelticPredator]

And people feel the same about you sometimes....so...you are both at fault.