Obi-Wan's Production Photos Posted

[IrishJedi]

That's not necessarily true... You'd be surprised how well those shading techniques, etc, might work against a likeness. For instance, a lot of the 'blended hairlines' shown in the examples look nice, but on a likeness of an actor (who might have a distinct, characteristic hairline), it would just look like accidental 'overspray'.

Not that I disagree with you completely.... I do agree that the thinner a factory can get the paintjob, the better (in most cases).

But I have to still stand by my original point... Until I see another 1:6 likeness with one of these all-mighty paintjobs, I'm still not convinced.

I think Andy's just happy because he probably got to keep the Obi-Wan that was at SDCC.

 

[user 131]

I am disappointed with the production pictures but I'll reserve final judgement until I have it in my hands. Luke & Han look A LOT better than the pictures of them online. I was over at my parents' house a couple weeks back and felt proud to show my Mom the 12" Obi-Wan I was to be receiving soon, but now I'm not so sure I'll even bring him up again. Especially after her glowing remarks about him.

 

[Wor-Gar]

This surprises me as well, though some U.S. customers (in Calfornia) should start noticing the arrival of Obi-Wan on the doorsteps any time now.

I'm expecting UPS with Obi any time now. I'm just standing here waiting, impatiently. They usually deliver any time between 2 and 6pm.

Believe me, the more this debate rages on, the more I want to get some Obi pictures up so we can talk about the actual product instead of all this armchair analysis.

 

[Andy Bergholtz]

I think Andy's just happy because he probably got to keep the Obi-Wan that was at SDCC.

I wish! I'd give my left arm for a 10-minute shopping spree thru Sideshow's display room (wouldn't we all? ), I'd love to snag the prototype versions of all the figures I've worked on.

 

[Mortar Conn]

I don't think there's a huge amount of difference between the quality of the paint apps on Luke and Han. Luke just has warmer, more natural looking skin tones as compared to Han's paler, pastier look.

IMHO, many of my Sideshow figures (non horror) HS paint apps have suffered from a pasty kind of "zombie" look.

I have absolutely NO complaints with the headsculpts, in fact they've exceeded my expectations. My problem is the paint apps: heavy, off color, and in some instances sloppy around the hairline.

With the high quality of the Sideshow SW figs' costumes and headsculpts, the paint just isn't up to par, as many including IrishJedi, pjam, abake, FlyandFight and many others, have already so well articulated.

Something needs to be fixed. Dragon/BBI/DID production HSs generally look IDENTICAL to the prototypes. So it can be done ....

Help us Sideshow, you're our only hope ...

I will withhold final judgment until I have Obi-Wan in hand, trying to remain cautiously optimistic.

 

[pixletwin]

I'm expecting UPS with Obi any time now. I'm just standing here waiting, impatiently. They usually deliver any time between 2 and 6pm.

Believe me, the more this debate rages on, the more I want to get some Obi pictures up so we can talk about the actual product instead of all this armchair analysis.

Dang Wor-Gar now my tummy hurts with anticipation!

 

[FlyAndFight]

Andy, now I understand. I think Abake brought up some good points. Regardless of the sculpted characters, it's the difference in the application of the paint that is what is clearly different. What's funny is that both DML and BBI have released figures in the past that look exactly like certain movie stars but of course have never admitted that they were based on them...

I mentioned in a previous post that a way of describing the difference was like saying that the DML/BBI sculpts had been painted with an airbrush while the Sideshow sculpts were painted by brush. I wasn't saying that was the actual case but that it was a way of describing the different visual effects on the different sculpts. Subtle shadings vs almost monotone color placement.

I also mentioned that Sideshow has certainly come a LONG way from the days of the blood-drained looking "Red Baron" figure, for example. Sideshow's earlier paint apps were topics of many posts in dedicated 1/6th forums such as the OSW, for example.

If you have a 1/6th figure dealer/shop in your area, I would ask that you go by and check out one of the DML and BBI figures and then see for yourself exactly what is being mentioned.

 

[tomandshell]

If the sculptor can't even get his hands on a beautifully painted prototype, then my chances of getting one are getting slimmer with each passing minute...

 

[user 131]

Dang Wor-Gar now my tummy hurts with anticipation!

I'm looking forward to seeing pictures from a customer too but even more so WG's initial thoughts on the figure.

 

[Mortar Conn]

Andy, now I understand. I think Abake brought up some good points. Regardless of the sculpted characters, it's the difference in the application of the paint that is what is clearly different. What's funny is that both DML and BBI have released figures in the past that look exactly like certain movie stars but of course have never admitted that they were based on them...

I mentioned in a previous post that a way of describing the difference was like saying that the DML/BBI sculpts had been painted with an airbrush while the Sideshow sculpts were painted by brush. I wasn't saying that was the actual case but that it was a way of describing the different visual effects on the different sculpts. Subtle shadings vs almost monotone color placement.

I also mentioned that Sideshow has certainly come a LONG way from the days of the blood-drained looking "Red Baron" figure, for example. Sideshow's earlier paint apps were topics of many posts in dedicated 1/6th forums such as the OSW, for example.

If you have a 1/6th figure dealer/shop in your area, I would ask that you go by and check out one of the DML and BBI figures and then see for yourself exactly what is being mentioned.

Good point. DML's Russell, a thinly veiled version of Russell Crowe, looks GREAT, and doesn't suffer from chubby cheeks, missed spots on the hairline, and HEAVY PAINT issues.

Anybody got a pict of DML Russell?

 

[FlyAndFight]

Why does the way I post bother you? Honestly? If I take the time to do that instead of 5-6 posts in a row why is that a big deal. Illogical huh? You're real good at tossing out insults yet you seem to want to damn me for stuff that isn't there. So I'm stupid and lack the ability to post things that make sense? Again, way to toss out insults. You are truly a stand up guy and a absolute class act. :rollseyes

Fly plain and simple. You're a dick. Put me on ignore and get off my damn back. Honestly reading your posts make me sick. You're a class act cry baby and rude. Not sure who the bigger troll is you or poggle.



No, yours was meant as an insult to me. I am not attacking you personally when I say that I find something someone says "laughable" or whatever. I only say stuff like that to show it might be a tad extreme. Where as what you did was a blatant personal attack which you seem to be on with me. You're being a total troll and a dick.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I can't wait to share.

I just hope Obi gets here soon, before all you guys head out for Friday night fun. Friday's a bad night to post pictures.

 

[abake]

Good point. DML's Russell, a thinly veiled version of Russell Crowe, looks GREAT, and doesn't suffer from chubby cheeks, missed spots on the hairline, and HEAVY PAINT issues.

Anybody got a pict of DML Russell?

Oh yeah, that was a great likeness, but it's a very old figure, I don't think it would hold very well to today's standards.

 

[FrankenFan]

 

[pjam]

Like Anakin, another amazing AB Sculpt, I will most likey have to correct the Obi paint apps to accurately represent the character as he appeared in the film, the proto and display and this shouldn't have to be the case.

There is no question Anakin was painted wrong and was a disappointment and it seems less so but still the case with Obi, for godsakes, he had light brown hair with reddish highlights and some white /gray hair texturing... this Obi clearly has medium brown hair with lighter shades of "honey brown" much like the "corrected" Sith Ani... still not accurate and still could have been corrected.

SSC can and should correct these inconsistencies with their paint apps... so collectors don't have to.

 

[FlyAndFight]

Russell was a great sculpt but the paint apps, although good, are not to their current standards (sorry for the non-close-ups):

BBI, for example, has one figure that looks just like Bruce Willis. I even did a custom bash of him from "Hart's War":

Here's one that looks like Clark Gable:

These are from my own collection. I don't have close-up pics but just quickly pulled these off my gallery.

 

[Poggle the Greater]

I'm all for the Sideshow v.s. Everyone Else quality debate, but I'd love to see some more comparable examples... Maybe someone can post some images of other actor/actress likenesses that have been done by other 1:6 companies, that make SS's attempts in question look so inferior (and I'm not talking about polystone or busts, I'm talking 1:6 PVC/vinyl heads)? I'm not trying to be a smartass, I'm really just curious....

In all fairness, instead of focusing on the SS vs other companies debate why can't we focus on the issue of the figure at hand and why and how the factory painted it with such screwed up colors?

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

I'm not trying to be an SSC brown noser here, but I honestly would not have known that was supposed to be Bruce Willis or Clark Gable if you hadn't pointed it out, and the paint doesn't look exceptional on either. Then again, those aren't the clearest pics.

 

[user 1190]

I would say that lighting played a part into this too. I don't know how the figure looked in person but I can with the right lighting make any figure look better or worse. I gonna go out on a limb and say that only a few people here have taken photography classes or have a higher level knowlegde of photography. And taking a picture then fixing in photoshop does not count. I am not the best saying I am the best but I can hold my own, but I mostly do sports photography.

 

[Memnoch]

I can definatly see Clark Gable without being told, Willis not so much. I can definatly see Obi-Wan Kenobi in the figure and not so much Ewan McGreggor. For me it comes down to what am I paying for, Obi Wan or Ewan? In the end its Obi Wan. I just wish his skin looked a little less pale, maybe it will in hand?