Odds of SSC Grevious

[King Darkness]

I would definitely be in for a 12" Grevious!!! And it will make the Obi exclusive that much cooler to own.

 

[Customikey]

I'm in. It's a crap character but a cool design!

 

[Alice Adrenochrome]

I'm in. It's a crap character but a cool design!

Exactly the way I see it too. I love robots/cyborgs.

 

[jason2885]

I think that he is possible but I think it will be awhile before he comes out. If anything he could just have a few points of articulation and retail for around Jabba's price.

 

[Zakk Attakk]

I'm in. It's a crap character but a cool design!

What makes it a crap character???

 

[darthviper107]

They could give him Shaak Ti's severed head as an exclusive----then again she didn't get her head cut off but it'd be somewhat related.

I think they could do it, but it would be a while, at least after they get used to doing some droids. Like right now they are doing more easy items--like the rebel endor troopers, those are a pretty easy start to the military line without doing a stormtroooper.

 

[Darth Loki]

They could give him Shaak Ti's severed head as an exclusive----then again she didn't get her head cut off but it'd be somewhat related.

I think they could do it, but it would be a while, at least after they get used to doing some droids. Like right now they are doing more easy items--like the rebel endor troopers, those are a pretty easy start to the military line without doing a stormtroooper.

Don't make the monkey cry

 

[gdb]

Of course, he couldn't come with his blaster, right?

Are they still holding on to their promise that exclusive accessories will never be duplicated or rereleased?

They spoke on this around the time of Kit's severed Battle Droid head. If I was reading between the lines correctly, they're only promising not to release a 100% completely identical accessory in the future. So between casting the same mold in metal to making a different mold altogether, I think they can "lawyer" their way around that.

 

[Darth Loki]

Of course, he couldn't come with his blaster, right?

Are they still holding on to their promise that exclusive accessories will never be duplicated or rereleased?

And I'm sure if they ever do a Skiff Guard, he won't come with a blaster

 

[Khev]

I think it'd be cool if his movie cape was standard but the exclusive came with a white cape also to match the one he wore in the CW cartoon.

 

[Wor-Gar]

How can you have Grievous without his cape? That's the worst exclusive ever.

Oops, forgot about the PF.

 

[Customikey]

What makes it a crap character???

It's just my opinion, sorry.

He was overdesigned and underdeveloped for his repsonsibilities in the script, his character had no arc, his origin was unclear as were his motivations, his lightsaber battle didn't live up to the tension-enducing build before they actually clashed. His boast that he was trained by Count Dooku personally falls a bit flat seeing as Dooku was unceremoniously beheaded ten minuted into the film. Not really very scary, that. He was just a very weak villain, when you look at ROTS and ignore all the CW stuff or comics and just look at the movie.

But, as I said, I'd be all over the figure. Cool design.

 

[Wor-Gar]

It's just my opinion, sorry.

He was overdesigned and underdeveloped for his repsonsibilities in the script, his character had no arc, his origin was unclear as were his motivations, his lightsaber battle didn't live up to the tension-enducing build before they actually clashed. His boast that he was trained by Count Dooku personally falls a bit flat seeing as Dooku was unceremoniously beheaded ten minuted into the film. Not really very scary, that. He was just a very weak villain, when you look at ROTS and ignore all the CW stuff or comics and just look at the movie.

But, as I said, I'd be all over the figure. Cool design.

A lot of what you said reminds me of opinions of Fett after his appearance in ESB.

Of course, many years can add a lot of "development" to a character. Maybe Grievous will get his due in time.

 

[Darth Loki]

It's just my opinion, sorry.

He was overdesigned and underdeveloped for his repsonsibilities in the script, his character had no arc, his origin was unclear as were his motivations, his lightsaber battle didn't live up to the tension-enducing build before they actually clashed. His boast that he was trained by Count Dooku personally falls a bit flat seeing as Dooku was unceremoniously beheaded ten minuted into the film. Not really very scary, that. He was just a very weak villain, when you look at ROTS and ignore all the CW stuff or comics and just look at the movie.

But, as I said, I'd be all over the figure. Cool design.

I've killed for less!!!


But seriously, no one was more disapointed with GG in ROTS than me. He's such a great character but was given nothing to do other than be a poster villian. I had such high hopes after seeing him kill many Jedi in the Clone Wars that he'd be this great bad ass in ROTS and ......nothing. Easily the coolest character in CW (yes even cooler than Asajj) and easily the most disapointing in ROTS. But let's not blame the character, let's blame the writer and directer.

He's still one of my favorite baddies just based on the CW. I hope when GL does the next series of Clone Wars (it's been confirmed) we get to see more of him and people can see how great he really was.

 

[Khev]

Grievous rocked. My favorite PT villain after Sith Anakin.

 

[Customikey]

A lot of what you said reminds me of opinions of Fett after his appearance in ESB.

Of course, many years can add a lot of "development" to a character. Maybe Grievous will get his due in time.

I think you are right. It's happening already, come to think of it. I defend Fett because he fulfills his story obligations and never claims to be more than he is. We see him, he's a bounty hunter. He hunts bounty. We don't need any clone stuff, or even the Solo feud of the EU to understand what motivates him. It's not important where he came from. He's just the one hunter clever enough to catch his quarry.

Grievous claimed to be a lot of things, both in what he said and the way others spoke about him. He was set up as the ultimate badass. I don't think he delivered on the promise implied by his design or the set-up of his character. Imagine we gear up to the TPM duel, with all the removing of cloaks and lighting of sabers and chorus going wild in the background. Then Qui-Gon stabs him in the face. The end. Dissapointed much? He's multi-faceted after the fact, just like Boba. The difference is in how they were utilized in the films. I have the same issue with Dooku, and I DO blame the writer/director for these shortcomings. He should spend as much time writing as he does in pre-production.

I think it's safe to say: OT Boba > PT Grievous.

However, in the CW, he's THE MAN!! And for that vision of his character, I would not be ashamed to put down my money for him. Same design as the PT, of course, but with a different notion in my mind as to "who" I'm getting.

PT Grievous < CW Grievous.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Grievous claimed to be a lot of things, both in what he said and the way others spoke about him. He was set up as the ultimate badass. I don't think he delivered on the promise implied by his design or the set-up of his character. He's multi-faceted after the fact, just like Boba. The difference is in how they were utilized in the films.

True, yes. But I think a lot of the build up and expectation came from an external source beyond the movie -- the Clone Wars cartoon. Its because of the CW that Grievous felt underused. If, as you say, you're just judging him based on the movie, then I think he worked quite well. He's just more of a Snideley Whiplash character in the movie -- a fiendish braggart who's a bit of a coward.

 

[Darth Caedus]

pretty much agree with you mikey. I like to think of grevious as the clone wars animated cartoon baddie. I know that some people like to think of grevious as the last remnants of maul put into droid form (while really cool,isn't his origin). I sometimes wish lucas would explain all his stories in the actual movie, and not make the viewer watch and buy everything star wars related to get the character's full story.

 

[Customikey]

True, yes. But I think a lot of the build up and expectation came from an external source beyond the movie -- the Clone Wars cartoon. Its because of the CW that Grievous felt underused. If, as you say, you're just judging him based on the movie, then I think he worked quite well. He's just more of a Snideley Whiplash character in the movie -- a fiendish braggart who's a bit of a coward.

I wasn't counting the CW. Just the build-up throughout the movie about how dangerous and vile he is, and then the build-up of him going all four arms, lighting thew blades, then doing the spinning blades of death bit. That's build up. The fight should be longer than the build-up, that's all....

I'm enjoying this discussion, it's all for love of the subject. Having said that, I apologize for having derailed the thread a bit....

 

[Customikey]

pretty much agree with you mikey. I like to think of grevious as the clone wars animated cartoon baddie. I know that some people like to think of grevious as the last remnants of maul put into droid form (while really cool,isn't his origin). I sometimes wish lucas would explain all his stories in the actual movie, and not make the viewer watch and buy everything star wars related to get the character's full story.

I so agree with you! I think the films should tell the full story without needing external justification. While it's cool to have a tale told in multiple formats, I think each should stand on it's own two legs as a complete story. The Maul as Grievous thing is news to me. It never fails to amaze me how we as fans can think of ways to continually shrink this expansive (and expensive) universe by making everyone related or connected in some way or another....