Official "Ridley Scott's Prometheus" Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[crows]

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In my cinematic world, Alien 3 and A:R are over extended cryo induced nightmares.

They were eventually rescued. I have never gone beyond that.

Alien 3 pissed me off with killing off Newt and Hicks but the ridiculous Queen grab whilst falling into a giant furnace. Pathetic.

A3 was a good movie but you could have put any monster in it's place IMO and it still be as good. I just don't like it as official cannon.

alien:R was a better movie than alien 3, both suck but at least A:R had more going for it and was closer to aliens, if you took alien 3 out and not make Ripley a clone or anything it could have worked. like if Newt never died, if they arranged the story a little, which is what alien 3 was supposed to be anyway.

I dont understand why alien 3 had to be such a turd, how hard was it to make a decent movie? why kill Newt and Hicks, that was the biggest slap on the face to any fan of aliens, that alone makes A3 be like a bad nightmare, one of the most idiotic plots. Michael Biehn should have been in A3

also, where the hell did the magic alien egg came from? and why did it have two facehuggers? wtf? that also was stupid,
A3 has some good acting and some good sets, but the creature looked awful, the movie was really slow and it bored me

 

[BadMoon]

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And Travolta!

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

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alien:R was a better movie than alien 3

You've lost all of my respect.

 

[crows]

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You've lost all of my respect.

did you even read the rest? A:R is not a good movie, but it IS better than A3, from Reading what they wanted to do with Alien 3, Alien Resurrection was closer to what they had in mind at first, and A:R is closer to aliens, if you watch alien aliens and Alien Resurrection not only they have a similar style but they were supposed to flow, the problem is that A:R sucks the acting sucked and the story sucked, the director sucked, plus having a clone and making it 200 years in the future ruined everything.
But what I was saying is that technically A:R was meant to be Alien 3, with Newt and Hicks,

Alien 3 is a turd of a movie, its awful, it went nowhere, nothing in that movie mattered, it should have never been made, the only thing it did was messed up the characters that people cared about,
Alien Resurrection is awful too, but at least it's a little closer to aliens, I say a little, because it also sucks

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

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did you even read the rest? A:R is not a good movie, but it IS better than A3, from Reading what they wanted to do with Alien 3, Alien Resurrection was closer to what they had in mind at first, and A:R is closer to aliens, if you watch alien aliens and Alien Resurrection not only they have a similar style but they were supposed to flow, the problem is that A:R sucks the acting sucked and the story sucked, the director sucked, plus having a clone and making it 200 years in the future ruined everything.
But what I was saying is that technically A:R was meant to be Alien 3, with Newt and Hicks,

Alien 3 is a turd of a movie, its awful, it went nowhere, nothing in that movie mattered, it should have never been made, the only thing it did was messed up the characters that people cared about,
Alien Resurrection is awful too, but at least it's a little closer to aliens, I say a little, because it also sucks

Alien Resurrection was fine. Not great, not bad. Just fine....but it doesn't compare to Alien 3.

Alien 3's story was very simple, and the movie itself was fantastic. And uh, Hicks and Newt's death were needed. Killing them off showed just how hopeless things were. No miracles, no fairy tales..you're in the Alien universe.

Ripley can't be happy. The alien will follow her everywhere, take everything from her. She knew this. There was no escape. A neverending nightmare. She embraced this fact, and she fought the alien. She made sure the alien died with her...


...and Alien 3's "style" is MUUUUUUUCH closer to Alien/Aliens than Resurrection. Alien Resurrection is like a big cheesy, awkward comic book. Nothing like Alien/Aliens/Alien 3.

 

[crows]

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Alien Resurrection was fine. Not great, not bad. Just fine....but it doesn't compare to Alien 3.

Alien 3's story was very simple, and the movie itself was fantastic. And uh, Hicks and Newt's death were needed. Killing them off showed just how hopeless things were. No miracles, no fairy tales..you're in the Alien universe.

Ripley can't be happy. The alien will follow her everywhere, take everything from her. She knew this. There was no escape. A neverending nightmare. She embraced this fact, and she fought the alien. She made sure the alien died with her...


...and Alien 3's "style" is MUUUUUUUCH closer to Alien/Aliens than Resurrection. Alien Resurrection is like a big cheesy, awkward comic book. Nothing like Alien/Aliens/Alien 3.

I see what you are saying, I can understand some of it, I guess is true about the no miracles no happy ending, yeah,
They both could have died after landing, there was no reason to kill them before the movie started though, they could have been impregnated too, or something, have 3 aliens instead of 1, the movie is called Alien3... LOL, I can agree with the no happy ending, and maybe Newt died, but Hicks could have been there and get in a fight and get killed or something, he deserved better
I'm just thinking earlier scripts for A3 sounded like it would be like A:R, not exactly but something like that,

 

[BadMoon]

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You've lost all of my respect.

You call the creature a xenomorph. You have no respect to give.

 

[crows]

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[CelticPredator]

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Alien Res sucks ass. Alien 3 is better in every single possible way.

 

[crows]

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Alien Res sucks ass. Alien 3 is better in every single possible way.

please explain how? or are you just trolling again

 

[CelticPredator]

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Alien 3 is closer to Alien. Kills off the fat, ends Ripley's story, goes deeper into her character, goes deeper into the company, into the Alien...ect, ect.

Res doesn't do anything. I can't think of anything Res brought to the table. In games, comics, anything. I don't hate the movie...but I don't think it's good. In any way, and I don't have a need to watch it.

Alien 3....is amazing visually, has some pretty good character stuff, and the longer version works better.

 

[Gully Foyle]

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Ripley can't be happy. The alien will follow her everywhere, take everything from her. She knew this. There was no escape. A neverending nightmare. She embraced this fact, and she fought the alien. She made sure the alien died with her...

Wasn't that a not-so-thinly-veiled comment on a woman's right to choose?

 

[Devil_666]

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Alien Resurection is pretty terrible. That's honestly the only movie in the series I can't watch. It's that bad. Like Down by the River bad. Alien 3 is so-so. Liked the concept and visuals but overall it falls short compared to Alien and Aliens. For me it's:

Aliens
Alien
Alien 3

 

[CelticPredator]

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Wasn't that a not-so-thinly-veiled comment on a woman's right to choose?

Whatever. She killed the queen to stop the company from destroying all life. So...whatever.

 

[CelticPredator]

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Alien Resurection is pretty terrible. That's honestly the only movie in the series I can't watch. It's that bad. Like Down by the River bad. Alien 3 is so-so. Liked the concept and visuals but overall it falls short compared to Alien and Aliens. For me it's:

Aliens/Alien
Alien 3

Mine. But I agree. Except, I think Alien 3 is good. Not great. But good. Especially the AC cut.

 

[crows]

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Alien 3 is closer to Alien. Kills off the fat, ends Ripley's story, goes deeper into her character, goes deeper into the company, into the Alien...ect, ect.

Res doesn't do anything. I can't think of anything Res brought to the table. In games, comics, anything. I don't hate the movie...but I don't think it's good. In any way, and I don't have a need to watch it.

Alien 3....is amazing visually, has some pretty good character stuff, and the longer version works better.

oh okay
I get you, I mean, I guess, I Can see what you and Lar'ja Thwei are talking about,
I mean, I guess is true, I don't think A;R is a great movie, it sucks, but it has to do more with the company trying to create the aliens and stuff, which is what they wanted to do all along, in A:R they finally got the aliens they wanted to get so badly and it goes as bad as it should go, ultimately all these movies have the same structure, aliens get loose, start killing everyone one by one,
the only thing I think A:R had over Alien3 is that it followed the company's plans that were being set from alien and Aliens, Alien3 is about all these weird hobo looking inmates and Ripley killing the creature, besides the ending of Alien3, to me Alien3 feels like a bad ripoff of the first alien, is like here we have a group of people that have never seen the alien coming in contact with it and being killed one by one, and having to defeat it,

while A:R is exactly the same, we got to see how evil the company really is when we see the deformed Ripley clones, and when we see them with the facehuggers and the kidnapped people, we got to see how the people working for the company are just as evil or more than the aliens themselves, like Ripley says in Aliens something about how "you dont know who is worst the aliens or humans, at least you dont see them screwing each other for a profit" While Alien R is awful, it tried to follow the story line of the first two movies, which was the evil company getting the alien, and we see that they could not handle it, and died because of their greed for power

 

[Devil_666]

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You do understand that company from A:R isn't Weyland-Yutani, right?

 

[crows]

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You do understand that company from A:R isn't Weyland-Yutani, right?

WHAT

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

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You do understand that company from A:R isn't Weyland-Yutani, right?

F U I was going to say that.



..but yeah, Weyland-Yutani Corp. is now owned by Walmart, right?

 

[crows]

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i never payed enough attention then LOL, i never knew that