Official "Ridley Scott's Prometheus" Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[Batty]

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Engineers have small junk.

 

[Kiva]

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Laughing at the Korean guy or girl next to you while they spit out a mouth of squid seamen

 

[Viking Spawn]

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Finally saw this last night in spectacular 3D.

But this was no KOTCS, it was a great film.

Not perfect, in fact I do have some slight initial issues with it.

and lastly

4. They showed too much in the trailers! "Its going to earth," "If we don't stop it there won't be an earth to return to," and then two ships crashing together. Come on guys! You think we can't piece together that they crash the Prometheus into the engineer ship to stop it from departing?


Noomi's Elizabeth Shaw was pitch perfect and on par with the legendary Ellen Ripley. Some great takes on old themes, the movie really kept me on my toes (other than the aforementioned ship collision) and I can't wait to soak it in further.

I agree with you in that the trailers did reveal "Spoil" way too much. I knew it was coming and I knew it was going to happen toward the end. I also felt they shouldn't have hinted at Shaw's squid baby either. That would've been a great SHOCK moment had that not been revealed in the trailers at all!

Love the film overall. I hope there is a sequel since it left too many questions unanswered.

My biggest complaint is that it took away the mytery of the original Space Jockey and the derelict ship from the original Alien film which I saw when I was only 9. In a sense, I wanted to know but in a way, I didn't want to know either.

 

[greygoose]

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IMy biggest complaint is that it took away the mytery of the original Space Jockey and the derelict ship from the original Alien film which I saw when I was only 9. In a sense, I wanted to know but in a way, I didn't want to know either.

It wasn't the same ship or Space Jockey. That story still remains a mystery.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

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Engineers have small junk.

Whoever wins....


....we lose

I hope I don't get in trouble for this.

 

[IrishJedi]

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As expected, the Art Of book is pretty awesome.

It also names all of the creatures (like the Deacon, which we already knew about)

 

[IrishJedi]

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Well? How is it? I'm considering getting it.

Absolutely worth picking up via Amazon.

 

[Frank]

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Engineers have small junk.

What if they had retractable junk that came out of the main junk?

Don't judge!

Besides, can't a 7 foot white(Whyte) guy catch a break?

Somebody commented earlier that Guy Pearce had an acting range that was limited to moody n' broody. He does tend to take on those kinds of roles a lot, but not for a lack of range imo. Remember him in Priscilla? I thought he did a good job as Weyland.

I didn't see that, lol. I just look at that as proof that most male actors today are fated to play at least one role where they crossdress.

Except Dave Chappelle!

 

[Moonloop]

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A couple more random ponderings:

One annoying thing I've noticed about every single sci-fi prequel out there: the technology always looks so much more advanced than the movies they're supposed to predate. Technically Star Wars had an excuse for this but it was still kind of jarring.

This is acknowledged in the art book. The designer said although the film takes place 20-30 yrs before Alien, the reason for the technology being far more advanced on Prometheus is because it is the "Flagship" of Weyland Industries. Prometheus got the best technology there was (a lot which I would say was experimental; Vickers wasn't even sure everyone would survive stasis). The MedPod was only one of twelve and still in prototype phase (info is at welandindustries.com).

Whereas the Nostromo was only fitted with the minimal things it needed to do its job. The Nostromo certainly didnt need a medpod, the company doesnt care about their miners that much. By the time of Alien, technology was stable enough for stasis machines and such to function without a hitch, etc. So the Nostromo and it's technology was a stripped down (cheaper) version of Prometheus.

 

[tinister]

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My book just arrived

 

[tinister]

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I think the ultra-cool holographic displays are the only technology that looks too advanced for the prequel. All the hardware I have no issues with, but in "Alien" they were still using bulky tube-base monitors.

 

[Khev]

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That was probably put in there so people would have a better idea of what the planet's purpose was.

I can't remember what he says exactly, but the way Janek said it, it seemed more like an estimated guess. Like his own theory based on what he's seen. The ampules, the ooze, the piled up dead Engineers, the hologram..and I think it was right after the mutated Fifield scene.

I can buy that, I think I was just a bit put off because I was having fun putting the pieces together (correctly even) on my own and then a character just announces it so everybody not paying attention could instantly catch up. Not a biggie but it kind of stuck out.

There were actually many more similarities between the two movies...but the difference is that Prometheus got it right.

Ha, also true now that I think of it. Even had a similar last shot. Similar content, wildly different levels of execution. Shows the potential Paul Anderson had that he subsequently wasted. Glad Scott "did it right."

I was particularly impressed with two scenes featuring Vickers. Her torching Holloway and also her demise at the end of the film. I found both scenes to be tragic and even a little disturbing. Gave great "weight" to the surrounding events, IMO, something lacking from the series since the first five minutes of Alien 3.

The two things that impressed my wife the most were:

1. The constant pain felt by Shaw after her c-section, too often films acknowledge something like that for a few minutes then have the character carry on as if nothing ever happened.

2. The fact that both ladies fell when running from the crashing engineer ship but neither stopped to help the other. Another annoying movie cliche avoided.

Awesome movie, can't wait to pick up the art book.

 

[Khev]

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Absolutely worth picking up via Amazon.

How much input did Giger have in this one?

 

[tinister]

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Absolutely worth picking up via Amazon.

Amazon rocks. I ordered it yesterday and it arrived 30 mins ago. And FREE shipping!

 

[Frank]

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This is acknowledged in the art book. The designer said although the film takes place 20-30 yrs before Alien, the reason for the technology being far more advanced on Prometheus is because it is the "Flagship" of Weyland Industries. Prometheus got the best technology there was (a lot which I would say was experimental; Vickers wasn't even sure everyone would survive stasis). The MedPod was only one of twelve and still in prototype phase (info is at welandindustries.com).

Whereas the Nostromo was only fitted with the minimal things it needed to do its job. The Nostromo certainly didnt need a medpod, the company doesnt care about their miners that much. By the time of Alien, technology was stable enough for stasis machines and such to function without a hitch, etc. So the Nostromo and it's technology was a stripped down (cheaper) version of Prometheus.

Yeah, yeah... Just once I'd like to see a prequel that truly feels older than the original.

That's seriously messed up.

The fact that it's not an uncommon thing, tells me there's a trillion dollar space expedition just waiting for these people.

 

[CelticPredator]

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You'll never see that because the film will always be newer then the original. You have to make a new film, with up to date effects.

 

[greygoose]

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I was particularly impressed with two scenes featuring Vickers. Her torching Holloway and also her demise at the end of the film. I found both scenes to be tragic and even a little disturbing. Gave great "weight" to the surrounding events, IMO, something lacking from the series since the first five minutes of Alien 3.

2. The fact that both ladies fell when running from the crashing engineer ship but neither stopped to help the other. Another annoying movie cliche avoided.

Agreed.

I'm 50/50 about Vickers in terms of loving or hating her character. I did feel like she didn't deserve to get squashed at the end.

 

[CelticPredator]

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But what if she livvvveeeedddd....

 

[Frank]

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You'll never see that because the film will always be newer then the original. You have to make a new film, with up to date effects.

Ahh, they could have thrown in some old DOS-looking interfaces and random blinking lights for good measure.

 

[plasmid303]

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So the word is that this movie's box office earnings took a 75% drop from Friday a week ago to last Friday (yesterday). Things are not looking up for Prometheus.