Ohio Teen Killed Mom Over Video Game

[El Roranous]

I had a 17 year old girls body dumped 10 minutes from where I live and the ^^^^ ran to India. I know no one's safe.
I've been beaten up myself and one of my ex-gf's got bottled in the face for no reason and she has a metal pin holding her cheek together.
I've had a firework put through my letterbox.

But no matter how many shootings there are, it's never the fault that there's a gun involved. An item that has no other purpose than to kill something.

Dude. Just dude. Sounds way too ghetto for me!

I would have moved a long loooooooooooooooooooooooong time ago if that stuff was happening around me. No matter what I would find a way out. Seriously.

 

[Nocturne]

Is just sad really that no one is safe and this is happening in different areas in the country. The worst part about being beaten up is, we worked out who it was, my brother happened to know where the guy lived. We'd contacted the police and told them this and they didn't do anything because I wasn't badly hurt enough!

Was a story in today's paper that a Judge let a criminal go because a testimony from a witness for the prosecution was too convincing?!
Witness to Believable

Like I said I don't want to start a flame war (because no one's opinion gets changed, everyone gets pissed off and the thread gets locked down) I never said my country was perfect is far from it and when I've been in America I've never felt remotely threatened (addmitedly I'm in Florida's tourist area) and the people have been friendly and nice. The gun thing is alien to us over here so to see it in a supermarket is a very surreal experience and is just as horrible to read about things like Columbine and Virginia Tech as when we had the Dunblaine massacre in Scotland.

Our countries took very different approaches, we clamped down dramatically on gun ownership and the need to get a gun and now shooting incidents are very few and far between. So we've come to see it as a factor and the response to it has been largely successful.

 

[Anzik]

But no matter how many shootings there are, it's never the fault that there's a gun involved. An item that has no other purpose than to kill something.

And sometimes people need to be killed. No one looks at statistics of how many crimes are deterred by guns. There's also a reason these massacres happen at schools, because the murderers read the signs that say 'gun free school zone" and they know they won't be shot before they can act out their cowardly atrocity. If they announced tomorrow that there will be undercover conceal and carry personnel on all campuses, the rate of these slaughters would diminish.

These stories make the news and the news has a vested interest in keeping people scared. Look at the guy who came to the church in Colorado in December of '07. He was shot by a security guard and his rampage was stopped and it disappeared from the national headlines in 2 days.

 

[Havok]

I don't even really know how to comment on this. All I can say really is he was 17 and totally capable of making up his own mind. If he allowed a video game to corrupt his mind like that, then he is a disturbed individual who needs serious help, and should be locked up somewhere so he can't be around people. I can't really say anymore.

 

[Nocturne]

And sometimes people need to be killed. No one looks at statistics of how many crimes are deterred by guns. There's also a reason these massacres happen at schools, because the murderers read the signs that say 'gun free school zone" and they know they won't be shot before they can act out their cowardly atrocity. If they announced tomorrow that there will be undercover conceal and carry personnel on all campuses, the rate of these slaughters would diminish.

These stories make the news and the news has a vested interest in keeping people scared. Look at the guy who came to the church in Colorado in December of '07. He was shot by a security guard and his rampage was stopped and it disappeared from the national headlines in 2 days.

Is very similar to the argument the NRA used after Virginia tech, it just seems to say that we need to keep outr guns to protect against the problem the problem caused by people owning guns. Where it becomes a self sustaining cycle.

It just doesn't make sense.

 

[Mesa]

Is just sad really that no one is safe and this is happening in different areas in the country. The worst part about being beaten up is, we worked out who it was, my brother happened to know where the guy lived. We'd contacted the police and told them this and they didn't do anything because I wasn't badly hurt enough!

Was a story in today's paper that a Judge let a criminal go because a testimony from a witness for the prosecution was too convincing?!
Witness to Believable

Like I said I don't want to start a flame war (because no one's opinion gets changed, everyone gets pissed off and the thread gets locked down) I never said my country was perfect is far from it and when I've been in America I've never felt remotely threatened (addmitedly I'm in Florida's tourist area) and the people have been friendly and nice. The gun thing is alien to us over here so to see it in a supermarket is a very surreal experience and is just as horrible to read about things like Columbine and Virginia Tech as when we had the Dunblaine massacre in Scotland.

Our countries took very different approaches, we clamped down dramatically on gun ownership and the need to get a gun and now shooting incidents are very few and far between. So we've come to see it as a factor and the response to it has been largely successful.

Is very similar to the argument the NRA used after Virginia tech, it just seems to say that we need to keep outr guns to protect against the problem the problem caused by people owning guns. Where it becomes a self sustaining cycle.

It just doesn't make sense.

If you don't have guns in England, what do the criminals/bank robbers use? If even they don't own guns, then your system is arguably better, but I doubt that is the case.

 

[Nocturne]

I can't even remember the last time I heard of a bank robbery here to be honest.
The last one I did hear was there they'd stolen a digger off a construction site and used it to remove the cashpoint outside from the wall.

Of course it's still possible to get a gun here if you look in the right places. But the ease of obtaining one is nowhere near as easy. I can understand people wanting them for home defence and like I've said in ingrained in the American culture and way of life.

But I feel I've made my point and everyone else has made there's and I can't see anyone's minds being changed on this, shall we call this part of the discussion a day ?

 

[Morbo]

When my wife told me about this story I laughed. Inpart because I lack sympathy towards people, and just because it was another dig at video games. the kid was a ^^^^ing nutter if he shot his mum and dad over a video game! I played all sorts of games and watched horror films growing up, and I never felt the urge to gun anyone down.
it's just another story of a mental kid who can't separate real life from fantasy.......

 

[The Ween]

Is very similar to the argument the NRA used after Virginia tech, it just seems to say that we need to keep outr guns to protect against the problem the problem caused by people owning guns. Where it becomes a self sustaining cycle.

It just doesn't make sense.

The problem is just too huge now. You could never ban guns here. Even if you did, the black market is just too big, plus you could just go into Mexico and get them. The criminals would have them and not the citizens.

Not to start anything, but ONE of the problems here with crime is all the immigrants and illegals coming in here. I think the UK is seeing this now as well.

 

[The Ween]

a ^^^^ing nutter

Is that anything like a Fluffernutter?

 

[Shatterer of Dreams]

The problem is just too huge now. You could never ban guns here. Even if you did, the black market is just too big, plus you could just go into Mexico and get them. The criminals would have them and not the citizens.

Not to start anything, but ONE of the problems here with crime is all the immigrants and illegals coming in here. I think the UK is seeing this now as well.

last time i checked the kid in this article was white. The immigration argument is a cop out. Don't take that as an attack against you - it's just how i feel. Especially since i've known a number of people who went to jail and they were all white.

 

[The Ween]

last time i checked the kid in this article was white. The immigration argument is a cop out. Don't take that as an attack against you - it's just how i feel. Especially since i've known a number of people who went to jail and they were all white.

Ugh.....did I mention color? No.

I won't go into it because it's already being taken wrong.

 

[GrueSam]

I understand what you wrote, Ween, and agree with you.

And ain't no one gonna take my Ruger from me.

 

[Anzik]

Drugs are illegal, people still get them. If you make guns illegal, people will still get them. At least this way, honest people have a choice to get one to defend themselves or not to.

Sadly, its just a fact that humans haven't moved past our violent origins and there will always be someone that has no reservations about harming another. All people just aren't created equal. People aren't inherently good, people are only inherently people. Some will do good, some will do bad, some will remain neutral.

 

[TOE]

Is anyone surprised by this

The news is filled every day with stories like this.

what is up with you and that song ?

 

[Morbo]

The problem is just too huge now. You could never ban guns here. Even if you did, the black market is just too big, plus you could just go into Mexico and get them. The criminals would have them and not the citizens.

Not to start anything, but ONE of the problems here with crime is all the immigrants and illegals coming in here. I think the UK is seeing this now as well.

last time i checked the kid in this article was white. The immigration argument is a cop out. Don't take that as an attack against you - it's just how i feel. Especially since i've known a number of people who went to jail and they were all white.

Ugh.....did I mention color? No.

I won't go into it because it's already being taken wrong.

Huh? Whaa? seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding by Shatterer of Dreams.
Dude , just re-read what Ween actually wrote. BLACK MARKET, there is no mention of race/colour.

 

[BadMoon]

Huh? Whaa? seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding by Shatterer of Dreams.
Dude , just re-read what Ween actually wrote. BLACK MARKET, there is no mention of race/colour.

Why does the market have to be black?

 

[Darth Caedus]

If they had taken away his Gears of War, I wonder if he could have chainsawed them

 

[Jen]

Huh? Whaa? seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding by Shatterer of Dreams.
Dude , just re-read what Ween actually wrote. BLACK MARKET, there is no mention of race/colour.

I think he may have been referring to the comment that one of the problems is the illegals/immigrants coming here. Just my guess.

 

[Nocturne]

If they had taken away his Gears of War, I wonder if he could have chainsawed them

Why do I suddenly see the whole thing being done over a copy of Bubble Bobble