Orlando Shooting

[azurepred]

Why would you assume anyone who wants to hurt gays is ISIS? The dude is from Indiana and looks like a hick. Sorry he wasn't part of ISIS. He had a reason to hate gays, what ever that be I doubt it was Islam. He could just as likely be a Christrian terrorist but I know we don't really worry about them.

what about my posts says I assume everyone who hates gays supports ISIS? I said it's not impossible. As I stated before, I didn't look up the guy. Whether your just trying to be a sarcastic ass or not, your "sorry he wasn't part of ISIS" and " but I know we don't worry about them" is out of line.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

And give me a break regarding the mass stabbings, the example you just cited had 8 and 2 deaths mentioned.

https://surrenderyourknife.co.uk

So it only matters if the death rate is high? Not the number of victims? Apparently England takes it pretty seriously.

 

[TonTon]

https://surrenderyourknife.co.uk

So it only matters if the death rate is high? Not the number of victims? Apparently England takes it pretty seriously.

UK murder rate is around 800 per 100K compared to our 10,000 per 100K. What's your point? Murder is still bad no matter what form?

 

[karamazov80]

Thread closed. This is the reason we don't usually allow political discussion here.

 

[cmiller99]

There's a scene in Reservoir Dogs that always reminds me of the problem with the argument "if law abiding citizens have guns, we will be safer from criminals because we can defend ourselves".

https://youtu.be/vp94AFms0V0?t=1m28s

Speaks for itself really.

When you live on a island, you can keep out whatever you want. Thing is, even in Australia, violence has gone up.

Sure, things are different on an island. But if we're talking about preventing mass shootings, then the reforms worked. On top of that however there are the other problems of people turning to other modes of weaponry/access to weaponry etc that all need to be considered. There's no easy solution to this problem, that's why it's not gone away.

Australia's is a very different culture when it comes to how we view our government and how we view our constitution. The type of gun control laws implemented in '96 wouldn't have a chance of getting up in the US.

That's very true, unfortunately.