Pirates of the Caribbean Movie Franchise Merchandise Thread

[MaulFan]

Re: Official Hot Toys Pirates of the Caribbean Thread

I'm predicting that with Barbossa, if they acquire the license, they'll go after the Curse version so he has the aztec coin with him, or even the chest. I imagine a Curse grouping. Elizabeth in the purple dress, hopefully with the undergarment so you can also have the marooned look. Will in his Curse Garbs, and for the sake of revisiting Jack Sparrow, Jack in his Curse costume, so 1 belt and a different scabbard for his sword, and hopefully they'll revisit his coat and get it the right material and color. I imagine 3-4 classic Pirates figures with probably another 3-4 from the 4th film later on.

 

[customizerwannabe]

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I hope your imagination is correct.

 

[customizerwannabe]

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Honestly, BARBOSSA is the last figure they really need to produce -- if they do they would have a complete line. Their first.

Nah. Rambo is pretty much complete unless anyone wants the geriatric version.

Rocky is as complete as it needs to be.

Ex Machina is complete enough.

Even Terminator is complete.

 

[MaulFan]

Re: Official Hot Toys Pirates of the Caribbean Thread

Amongst a lot of people, RAMBO is the 2nd best, for some the best, film in the franchise, and a figure based on that incarnation is necessary in my eyes and a lot of other folks.

I'd argue that Rocky is either incomplete or poorly handled depending on how you want to look at it. Key characters are fully represented, much as I love Mickey and Paulie they're not going to sell at $150. That said, while all the big names are in the series, the important relationships aren't represented properly. Rocky and Appollo are the heart of it all, the first 2 movies revolved around that and while there's figures of both, they don't represent either instance of the two fighting each other, which is a shame. So if you're a die hard Rocky fan, the HT line isn't done/completed in a manner that makes you feel satisfied it's complete, and that's what it all comes down to, is completed to a point that honors the fandom and respects the importance of characters in the movie.

Terminator, for that matter, is also incomplete. Sarah Connor is like the basis for the entire story and she's not represented, to me that makes it incomplete.

I don't know what Ex Machina is so I can't comment on it, but as far as mainstream movie licenses, Hot Toys' only properly completed lines are the AVP and AVPR, the humans were of no value in those, all the creatures necessary to reprsent are there and more, those 2 collections are completed properly, every other line's had at least one important character/reprsentation missing.

I truly believe if you were to represent POTC at it's bare minimum with characters, you need Jack Sparrow, Hector Barbossa, Will Turner, Elizabeth Swann and Davy Jones, and HT's one figure away from covering that. Even if some costumes aren't folks' personal preference, the characters are represented.

 

[denger4000]

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Nah. Rambo is pretty much complete unless anyone wants the geriatric version.

Rocky is as complete as it needs to be.

Ex Machina is complete enough.

Even Terminator is complete.

I strongly disagree with Rocky being complete....

 

[King Darkness]

Re: Official Hot Toys Pirates of the Caribbean Thread

Rocky is as complete as it needs to be.

Wrong.

 

[creecher]

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Paulie and Mickey would have been nice.

 

[MaulFan]

Re: Official Hot Toys Pirates of the Caribbean Thread

Paulie and Mickey would have been nice.

They'd be great, I can't imagine too many Rocky die hards that don't love the two of them in film, I was so excited when I found out Paulie'd be back for Rocky Balboa.

That said, even some of the main fighters from the series didn't sell well, so i can only imagine how tough a time they'd have selling even at $90, which I don't think HT'd cost much lower than anymore.

Even POTC has characters that brought something to the table that made up the story and all, but as far as pricey 1/6 figures, they're not going to do well and we'll likely never see them. Sao Feng, if he'd been played by some generic, no big name actor, would never have been made once, let alone 2 figures, it was Chow Yun Fat's status that got those figures made. Pintel and Riggetti deserve figures more so than Sao Fend as far as story importance goes.

Since HT's not hesitant to do big vehicles and things if they feel they'll succeed, I'd love to see a 1/6 enviro of the loot pile on which the Aztec gold chest lay, be perfect for displaying a Barbossa and Jack duel on.

 

[Zoolander]

Re: Official Hot Toys Pirates of the Caribbean Thread

Hot Toys don't owe you guys anything, they do because they wanna do!

 

[customizerwannabe]

Re: Official Hot Toys Pirates of the Caribbean Thread

Rocky only needs his opponents to be complete for me. Would I like a Mickey? Sure. Not at all a "must have" though. Paulie would be a HUGE loser. Only extreme hardcores would shell out for him IMO. I would, but I don't think the casual collector would.

I know of no one who thinks the last Rambo movie was above 3rd place in the series. That would be like saying you need geriatric Indy to complete a ROTLA series. Again...not necessary.

Sideshow did Sarah. Pretty well too. To make another would be a waste of resources.

 

[customizerwannabe]

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Wrong.

Thug Rocky WOULD be cool.

 

[MaulFan]

Re: Official Hot Toys Pirates of the Caribbean Thread

Personal preferences aside, legitimate points can be made as to why some missing characters from a line leave it incomplete.

Rambo - HT has at least 1 representation of Rambo from every film, to not represent the 4th is a shame.

ALIENS - Short lived characters saw the light of day and ones that were more heavily involved in the story, like Newt and Bishop, never saw figure form.

Terminator - Sarah Connor is the basis for the storyline, two people going after her, 1 to protect, 1 to terminate, to not have a figure of the most important character in the plot is weak.

POTC - The main plot of the first 3 films involves 5 key characters, if you're not going to make a large line like SSC's Star Wars, you should at least represent everyone most heavily involved in the events, and with 5, that's not much.

Rocky - The root of that story is an underdog with a dream of knowing that no matter how ^^^^ty his life may seem, in him lies the ability to be something great and to prove it to himself he takes on the champion of the world. Hot Toys Rocky line doesn't represent the origin of the character at all.

Batman Begins - Crashed before it even took off.

The Dark Knight - I think as far as story, it can be argued the Jim Gordon is an important character to the story that also has the potential for good sales and his absence leaves a mark on the line. Alfred's important but only has marketability to the hardcores.

Overall, as far as giving a film proper representation as a 1/6 figure line, HT always comes up a few short, which is the sting. If they were way off from being complete, it'd be one thing, but to be right there and not finish is an injustice to the customer base.

Aliens, Terminator and Rocky I think are done, I don't see them getting completion like they ought to.

Fortunately, I think some of their other lines have hope.

Rambo - A figure from the 4th film will need a bulkier body than previous muscle body, the in development Predator figures have shown a new body is in the works, and evne those aren't ready for unveiling, so Rambo 4 could be in development but not seen yet.

Batman Begins - Sales of TDK merchandise could generate drive to revisit this film.

TDK - Sales should hopefully support Gordon being made.

POTC - New film should support continuation of the line.

 

[customizerwannabe]

Re: Official Hot Toys Pirates of the Caribbean Thread

= Be thankful for what they've given you but you can always hope for more.

 

[MaulFan]

Re: Official Hot Toys Pirates of the Caribbean Thread

I am thankful for what they've done, but as has been said when speaking up about Sideshow around here at times, my position is I could see better things from HT, would like to, and throw out words of encouragement. If they "completed" their movie lines, it'd look so much better for them that they offer collector's a complete feeling collection of figures based on a property rather than a few cool figures from it.

 

[customizerwannabe]

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I am thankful for what they've done, but as has been said when speaking up about Sideshow around here at times, my position is I could see better things from HT, would like to, and throw out words of encouragement. If they "completed" their movie lines, it'd look so much better for them that they offer collector's a complete feeling collection of figures based on a property rather than a few cool figures from it.

Listen to yourself. "If they completed their movie lines". To whose satisfaction? Yours? Mine? Completion is subjective and a bit of a silly request in my mind. Everyone has a different opinion of what complete is. To encourage...sure. Give them ideas. That's definitely not a bad thing. However, they will make figures they feel they can make the largest profit on. End of story. Their goal isn't to fill our cabinets to our specifications.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

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I can't believe they never made Rocky in the training sweats, that's the iconic image of that character. When you think of Rocky, the first two things that come to mind are the training montages with that great music and running up the steps of the museum, both of which are him in the sweats.

I almost forgot. No Mickey! How can you have Rock without Mick?

 

[customizerwannabe]

Re: Official Hot Toys Pirates of the Caribbean Thread

I can't believe they never made Rocky in the training sweats, that's the iconic image of that character. When you think of Rocky, the first two things that come to mind are the training montages with that great music and running up the steps of the museum, both of which are him in the sweats.

You help prove my point. There'll always be versions we want that won't see light of day. Completion isn't possible.

 

[The Mike]

Re: Official Hot Toys Pirates of the Caribbean Thread

I think everyone's definition of complete is at least having all of the major characters. The split is that not everyone wants to be a completist. Whether you feel your collection is complete or not isn't the talking point, the reality is that any collector would say that secondary tiered characters are nice but major characters are vital for a complete line. A lot of collectors just don't feel the need to follow lines to their ends. A lot of HT's lines are incomplete by that simple definition. Rocky needs Mickey because he was a major character, whether HT makes him or not isn't the case its just that he is needed. Barbossa falls into that same category.

It isn't about being satisified or unsatisifed or whose needs are being met, its just the bottom line that the Movie Masterpiece line has a ton of incompletions. Now some are okay with it and some like myself find it mindnumbingly frustrating but then again....that isn't likely to change HT's mode of operations.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

Re: Official Hot Toys Pirates of the Caribbean Thread

You help prove my point. There'll always be versions we want that won't see light of day. Completion isn't possible.

I'm not even talking about completion, that's the iconic version of that character. It's like making several Indy figures, none of which are in his adventure gear.

 

[customizerwannabe]

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Again. Subjective. Rocky and opponents do just fine for me. Won't lie, I'd like a Mickey but no biggie. A lot of people would include Adrian as a major character. She was. SHOULD they produce one?