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I knew the SNES part but not the Sega deal. Funny how stuff works out....

I didn't know either story?

I like Hayao Nakayama's comment "Sony doesn't know how to make games" :lol

18 days till the Ps4 & 11 days until I get my XB1 :yess:
That's if the come on time that is
 
It's sold out.

3G/WiFi is sold out not the WiFi.

WiFi I linked to says in stock and I added one to my cart. :dunno

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Here's to a fun weekend. :hi5:



Its not gonna take 3 hours to download a game. :lol

I didn't say just for the games, those plus day one patches ign and others that have ps4's said in order for it to even play games you need to download all system patches..
 
Congrats to all you guys getting your ps4 this friday I won't be getting ps4 probably till summer when games are slow coming out. I couldn't afford both I went with xbox one cause of the launch line up. Im going to get ps4 in the summer with infamous and killzone. Congrats again to all you guys I want to hear how awesome it is and impressions of the games.
 
Just read on ign that sony is revealing a new ps4 game this thursday and that infamous is amazing ign has played it.
 
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All games for ps4 are mandatory install and KZ Shadowfall is 50gb I think BF4 is 55gb.

This install business. Are you basically downloading the whole game and just using the disc as an authenticator type dealy or is it just that much data you need the boost.

If it's the latter i find it poor that brand new and nexter gend bardware requires downloads to run properly
 
This install business. Are you basically downloading the whole game and just using the disc as an authenticator type dealy or is it just that much data you need the boost.

If it's the latter i find it poor that brand new and nexter gend bardware requires downloads to run properly

All you need to know:

https://kotaku.com/how-mandatory-game-installations-will-work-on-ps4-1462283797

Call it installation or call it caching, but the bottom line is that you will have to save large chunks of PlayStation 4 games to the system's hard drive. It's not an option. It's mandatory on Sony's next-gen system. Today, at a stylish waterfront hotel in New York City that's been taken over by Sony for all things PS4, the system's lead architect, Mark Cerny, explained just how these requirements work.

If you are playing a disc-based game, the system will begin caching the disc when you put it in the console and get ready to play. The game is saving part of itself to the system's hard drive. The amount of data that has to be saved before you can start will vary per title.

Cerny said that for the launch game he directed, Knack, users should only have to wait 10s of seconds to play the game. After that, as you play, the game will stream more content to the console's 500GB hard drive. Knack will use 37GB of space overall, as noted on the game's box. Obviously, it won't take many games to fill the console's hard drive.

Cached/installed game data will stay on the hard drive until the user deletes it. Cerny said that there had been some internal discussions at Sony about having the PS4 auto-delete installed data from games that players hadn't used in a while. They decided against it, figuring that gamers would never want to feel "blindsided" and would prefer to make their data management decisions manually. Probably a good choice!

The disc installation is required on PS4 because the console is not designed to read games off of discs. It's not a PlayStation issue. It's a physics issue. The machine may have a Blu-Ray drive that's about three times faster than the PS3 with about six times as much memory, but it's still more expedient for it to read data from its own hard drive. Cerny said his team had heard too many complaints from current-gen developers about having to wait to load in new levels of games. Putting the data on the readily-accessible hard drive alleviates that.

Not surprisingly, Microsoft's Xbox One requires installation from Blu-Ray, too, and only runs games off the hard drive.

If a PS4 user decides to download a game, they will have to wait longer to play. Cerny couldn't provide as narrow an estimate on how long a player who decided to download Knack would have to wait. That depends in large part on a user's Internet connection speed. Ideally, he said, they wouldn't have to wait more than an hour before beginning to play the partially downloaded games. Other games may be set up differently, allowing users to start playing them sooner or requiring them to wait longer. With these kinds of download speeds and requirements, players may want to queue their PS4 downloads long before they want to start gaming or download in the background while doing something else. Or just drive to the store and get a disc.
 
microsoft announced today that you will need to install xbox one games as well and they are huge like 35 gigs for battlefield 4 32 for dead rising 3 and like 45 for nba 2k. I guess this is a next gen thing you can use external hard drive on xbox one but not until microsoft has an update for it that 500 gigs isn't looking so big now wish they would have put 1tb in both systems at least with the ps4 the hard drive is removable.
 
I don't mind the install requirement, I just don't like the use of such a puny hard drive. It's a cheap tactic. They know with these gigantic game files, people will be looking for bigger hard drives in no time and they can bend you over. Obvious and lame. Almost 50 gigs for some games...WTF. A little compression never hurt anyone. Is it just a further tactic by publishers in conjunction with Sony and MS to fill that hdd up as fast as possible?
 
I don't mind the install requirement, I just don't like the use of such a puny hard drive. It's a cheap tactic. They know with these gigantic game files, people will be looking for bigger hard drives in no time and they can bend you over. Obvious and lame. Almost 50 gigs for some games...WTF. A little compression never hurt anyone. Is it just a further tactic by publishers in conjunction with Sony and MS to fill that hdd up as fast as possible?

Sony isn't bending you over. You can buy whatever hard drive you want. I've considered just buying one and not even using theirs.
 
Sony isn't bending you over. You can buy whatever hard drive you want. I've considered just buying one and not even using theirs.

:lecture I'm order one of these to have ready the second I take the PS4 out of the box.

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