Plinkett's Episode 3 review!!!!!

[Starkiller]

Well the vagueness of the prophecy can be chalked up to a ill conceived plot point by George Lucas to make Anakin more important than he actually was.

I hate it all, why did he have to be born on Tatooine too? Like if you were going to hide his kids one would think you wouldn't hide them with basically the only thing closet to family Anakin had left...on his home planet. And he knew baby Greedo apparently too. Small universe! But heck that kid needed to bring "balance" to the force because of the "prophecy". I suppose George thought oh:

"I'll make him this prophet that is going to bring balance to the force, that sounds good. And when he dies it will make everyone even more the sads!"

Vader was a villain that used to be good, and good friends with Obi right? Then why was he a spoiled little _____ the whole PT too. He never really showed any bright spots, even his love for Padme was selfish because he wanted her so bad that he ignored all else really, and he let it affect everything he did. Relatable?...He wasn't even likable.

 

[Boba Ben]

I don't want to get too nerdy philosophical about it, but from how I understood the way Yoda described the force in Empire, I never really understood why the force would be something that needed to be balanced out by an individual. I always thought the force just was what it was. I thought it was just a mystical energy that some like Yoda tapped into to chose to follow a path of light and wisdom while others like the Emperor used it to gain power and domination. It's a pretty simple concept of good/evil, but the whole balancing thing never really made much sense.

 

[Azrael23]

Well, not really. Why does a prophecy always have to be beneficial? The way I interpreted it, the Jedi just misunderstood the true meaning of the prophecy.

I did get the impression that they did misinterpret it. In the conclusion of ROTS Kenobi lamented that Anakin was to destroy the Sith, not join them. His joining would eventually destroy them, but still, what exactly were the Jedi views regarding this prophecy?

Add to the fact that Sidious hinted on him or his master being behind Anakin's conception, but again, why was any of that necessary to begin
with? So the likelihood exists that the Sith were behind the very
prophecy that would destroy them.

 

[Khev]

So far I've watched about 20 minutes of his "review." His first two were hilarious but he's losing a lot of credibility with this one. A lot of things he complains about ROTS doing or not doing (terrible dialogue in front of boring backdrops, making Vader lame, making Han Solo lame, etc.) were already committed by Return of the Jedi.

I remember a group of my college buddies watching ROTJ on VHS in the dorms in the early 90's and people roaring with laughter at Vader's girlie little "aaaaaah" when he falls down after Luke cuts off his hand. But I guess it gets a pass since it was the OT.

 

[CelticPredator]

It gets a pass because those characters are good. The PT are all terrible human beings. Or aliens. Point is, you dont like them. Anakin is the nuttiest hero of all time.

 

[Khev]

It gets a pass because those characters are good.

ROTS and ROTJ feature almost the exact same characters. "But ROTS made them lame!" Sorry, ROTJ did that first.

Now I'm not saying that both movies "suck." I greatly enjoy them both. They just share many of the same high and low points.

 

[icruise]

I don't see how you can compare ROTJ and ROTS in that way. Sure, ROTJ is the weakest of the OT, and it has its faults, but they are by and large different faults than those of ROTS. I don't recall being bored by ROTJ, for one.

 

[ShadowX81]

Plinkett was wrong about one thing. The Millennium Falcon did appear (albiet briefly) in Episode 3.

 

[icruise]

He wasn't wrong. The joke was that he was in denial about the Millenium Falcon appearing.

 

[ShadowX81]

How so? He was listing things that did not happen at all in Episode 3 and the Millenium Falcon was among them.

 

[Corporal Dwayne Hicks]

Great review again... shows how Episode III really was no better than the first two prequels dispite what alot of prequel fans say.

 

[icruise]

How so? He was listing things that did not happen at all in Episode 3 and the Millenium Falcon was among them.

I suppose it's open to interpretation, but he goes on and on about how he was amazed that Lucas didn't sell out the MF, and says how lame it would be if, say, the original owner was shown flying around in it. But of course that's exactly what did happen in the film. It seems unlikely that he would have just pulled that idea out of thin air.

 

[a-dev]

In fairness Plinkett could easily have missed that blink & miss appearance of the Falcon, its one thing that wasn't waved in your face.

 

[Joker]

Plinkett was wrong about one thing. The Millennium Falcon did appear (albiet briefly) in Episode 3.

These movies ____ing suck!

 

[rubio95]

I would like to go round and round with you guys about the prequels. But everyone just gets mad. Which I understand.

I have a small point to make though.

Only George Lucas could take several Academy Award-caliber actors and still make us cringe early and often.

Liam Neeson
Ewan McGregor
Natalie Portman
Terrence Stamp
Keira Knightley
Sam Jackson (hey, he was nominated)
A key to Fort Knox.

The Original Trilogy had:

Alec Guiness
James Earl Jones' voice
A budget.

I'm just saying...

 

[cokebabies]

Exactly to me the PT started 10 years too early. Anakin should have been a teenager when they "found" him. Omit Qui-Gon, Make Obi a little older and have him training Anakin.

The TPM started it all wrong, and way too early. No one cares about how they found the kid, or why they had to give him a messiah complex birthed to a woman with no father.

We didn't need Obi-Wan sitting on a ship waiting for a good part of TPM. We need a troubled teen Anakin that was a good kid but just had a rough life, and him somehow falling into the jedi order as Obi-Wan's apprentice. And then we could have had 3 films where their relationship was evolving and growing.

Anakin's arc would have been so much more believable and likable as a character. He's a good kid but going down the wrong road so to speak, Obi takes him under his wing and sets Anakin right he grows into a just and strong jedi, then starting at the end of the 2nd film and to the third...the dark side starts to "seduce him".

So much wasted time in that first film.

Definitely agreed. The PT is just WAY too jumpy. He's a kid, then he's a teenager, then he's evil.

If you eliminate the early years of TPM, and started with Anakin's age in AOTC and spread that arc over three rather than two films, it would have been much more organic.

 

[ODBJBG]

Another great Plinkett review. I'm going to disagree with the earlier post about him taming down some of the side elements. I've never been disturbed by them in the past, because I am generally amused by the subversive dark humor in them. This time around he uses less but the stuff used isn't as interesting to me. Anywho...

I'm so with him on the Darth Vader as Space Jesus. That's one of my big issues with the whole Star Wars PT from the get-go. There was no point in that and it serves no purpose. If anything, he's space Satan as he never really does anything good anyway. Sure, he's hanging out with the good guys in the PT, but he's a bad guy throughout the entire PT, except for when he's a little kid. He's never really wanting to help the good guys, he's just on their side until he can turn on them at the best opportunity. And the films never do anything to establish that he's a good guy. We already know going in that this is frickin' Darth Vader, one of the most evil dudes in the universe, but never for a moment in any of these films do they spend any time trying to make him out to be a good guy. He's an ass from day one.

The films could have been a million times better if Anakin had ever been portrayed as a hero. But he never is. He's whiny, reckless and generally a tool. Why can't the Jedi's just fire him? You're relieved of being a Jedi, hand in your laser sword dude. The SuperFriends would have fired Apache Chief if he was always disobeying orders, freelancing and cavorting with Lex Luthor. He's also kind of unimportant. He should have been on the Jedi Council or something. By Episode 3 he should have grown up, been more mature, been a hero by now. Why is the most important Jedi of all time, the chosen one, some kind of grunt? While Conehead guy and other random Jedi are making all the decisions? Instead he's still just a brooding prick doing meanal Jedi tasks and who is constantly going against the grain at the detriment of all the good guys.

I don't hate the PT, I watched them, I liked Episode II the best for whatever reason, but it's all so mindless. It never feels like beginning of the OT. From the fact that all the technology just suddenly gets worse in the future, like in a few year we're all going to go back to VCRs and driving Studebakers for no reason at all... There's never any attempt to keep the look and feel of the original films. It's all balls to the wall CGI, for no reason at all. To the fact that the characters don't seem like their counterparts. Obi-Wan isn't wise, he's just another random Jedi who rarely succeeds at what he's trying to accomplish. Anakin is a selfish prick, but not a "rule the galaxy as dictator" kind of prick, but like, "used car salesman" prick. I just don't buy that THAT guy becomes Darth Vader. About the only OT character that makes out alright is the Emperor and that's just because it's not hard to buy him as a slimey politician.

Blah, whatever. I don't hate the concept of an expanded SW universe, nor do I hate all the concepts and characters of the PT, it's just how it's all used and come together that's such a mess. Some of the cartoon stuff I've seen is pretty interesting. But the movies just seem poorly pushed out turds with lots of eye candy and little substance behind them.

 

[rubio95]

If the entire story arc of the 6 films is supposed to be the Rise, Fall and Redemption of Anakin Skywalker, then Episode 3 destroyed it. In the OT, Vader redeemed himself in the end, and we were sad for him and Luke and we had forgiven Darth Vader.

But coupled with the three prequels, we have reason to absolutely HATE Anakin/Vader. At one point in the film, he slaughters a room full of children (younglings, ugh). How can a character that kills (mostly) helpless kids be redeemed? How can any audience forgive that?

And even AFTER learning of that, Padme (ugh) still says she loves him. Dumb broad.

 

[rubio95]

And WTF is the deal with 5,000 different kinds of "Clone Troopers?"

In the OT there were 3 kinds. And they were all white and black. Sandtroopers don't count. Their armors were just dirty, not repainted. And the pauldrons were just equipment, the armor was the exact same as the Standard Stormtroopers.

In the prequels, there are different colors and different armors and they all have names (Rex, Cody, etc).

I know that alot of us like to collect all the various armors, so can someone tell me exactly how many there are? I'm not trying to tear anyone up, I just honestly would like to know.

 

[Starkiller]

ROTS and ROTJ feature almost the exact same characters. "But ROTS made them lame!" Sorry, ROTJ did that first.

Now I'm not saying that both movies "suck." I greatly enjoy them both. They just share many of the same high and low points.

Comparing ROTJ to ROTS is like comparing a Lamborghini to a anything made by Chevy. They are just in completely different atmospheres. ROTJ is my favorite of the OT, and doesn't commit anything that Plinkett says ROTS did.