POP TOYS Jeanne d'Arc & armoured horse

[Star Puffs]

This looks amazing. I was going to buy it, then cancelled with BBTS. I bought Pop Toys female samurai figure, which is extremely impressive in hand. I think I'll have to pick this one up after all.

 

[Damien]

how tall is this figure?
looks kinda small on the horse

 

[Asta]

Looks amazing, just like the prototype. Good job POP Toys.

Everything certainly does look close to the prototype.

There's one production issue you can see in some photos, which is the horizontal mould line across the pauldron of the full armour set:

This same thing has happened, to a much worse degree, with CooModel's smaller pauldrons in their latest Milanese armour sets.

So far, I haven't seen any issues with the larger pauldrons:

With this same problem occurring at the same time from both POPToys and CooModels, I'm wondering whether these were from the same factory. Or, knowing how incestuous the 1/6 industry, whether POP and Coo are actually the same firm?

This looks amazing. I was going to buy it, then cancelled with BBTS. I bought Pop Toys female samurai figure, which is extremely impressive in hand. I think I'll have to pick this one up after all.

Hopefully mine will be going out soon since OSK has received half their stock, and sent me the invoice yesterday.

how tall is this figure?
looks kinda small on the horse

In some of the reviews she's standing next to the latest CooModel Knight. If he's the same height as the Coo Gothic armour I have, then he'll be 13" tall. A giant for his time! That would make Jeanne about 10 1/2" tall. That's ideal for the historical Jeanne, since she was estimated to be 5' 2", but too short for Milla, who's about 5' 8".

However, I'm pleased with the POPToys height as I'd rather she was closer to her historical height.

 

[Asta]

https://bbs.bbicn.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=349809


After a brave heart ignited an ancient European war, St. Jude was born in a few years. At that time, she looked at the saints with the standard of brave heart. Later, she found that the story was very brave. The gap, but can not say that the film is not good, the background between the two films is far from each other, and from the battle scene, the saint is still very good.

POP has made tremendous efforts in recent years, and launched many ancient themes, and Joan of Arc has not fallen. There have been a lot of friends who have commented on this paragraph, and the response is very good. Let's share it here.
Outer kraft paper printing uses the image of the real Jude statue.

The outsourcing of the box is very amazing, and the individual likes it.

The main body of the character is not large, and the armor has been worn, so it does not occupy the place. The first layer of the subject, the second layer of the banner and so on.

Main weapon close-up, sword is alloy

Flag close-up

Pop gave a lot of spare parts for belt rivets this time. This is very user-friendly. Now the alloy content is getting higher and higher, the weight of leather goods is bigger, the life is lower, and more spare parts are given, which does not increase the cost, but increases More to play with durability, this point is praised.

Although it is an alloy, it can be supported by the body and has no soft feet.

The head carving is close-up, personally feels very good, and rare hair is good. Skin color painting is also more realistic.

Helmet close-up

Plastic hair head close-up

Armor close-up

There is no groove on the back, similar to the COO King Knight, manufacturers are paying more and more attention to the treatment behind it.

 

[Asta]

Same review continued...

War horse outsourcing With equipment instructions Naked horse close-up, a little bit of mane, you can trim it yourself. The state of the harness, the buttocks are alloys, others are plastic and plastic parts.

 

[Star Puffs]

Nice. I re-submitted my preorder in with BBTS for the horse and the "Triumph" version.

Equestrian is rare sporting activity where women can exceed men in equal competition, so it makes more sense that a female soldier would do best as a mounted fighter, which from my readings, provides a tremendous advantage.

 

[Asta]

The historical Jeanne wasn't a warrior, but a mascot and advisor. In effect merely a tool employed by the Dauphin, though that doesn't make her short life any less remarkable for the age she lived in.

The figure, however, can represent whatever you want. After all, it was inspired by a film. Her story is fascinating, what with the superstitions of the time (still present today), and how they were exploited for political and personal gain (just as they still are today). In the film she claimed she never killed anyone, and much of the film is taken directly from her extensive trial records.

I've been meaning to look more into that record, and found the unabridged 1932 English translation online this morning:

https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/basis/joanofarc-trial.asp

It runs on for hundreds of pages, but at least it's CTRL-F searchable so you can dip into it. Searching all instances for the word 'kill' brought up the reference:

She said also that she herself bore the standard, when attacking the enemy, so as not to kill any one; she never has killed any one, she said.

Anyway, I like the posing and set ups in this latest review:


https://bbs.bbicn.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=349862&extra=page=1

I feel that this is worth starting, the two head carvings are in place, the charm of the movie protagonist, the
armor is old and more real, the war horse is quite
normal. Since the ancient times, many products have improved a grade, not bad.

I hope you like it too.

 

[Stryker2011]

Looking forward to getting mine. Thanks for sharing all the pics, Asta. Really great looking figure.

 

[Asta]

Looking forward to getting mine. Thanks for sharing all the pics, Asta. Really great looking figure.

Kit sent the horse out yesterday, and will send the figures in the next day or two. I have quite a few 1/6 coming in at the moment, but these are the most anticipated.

 

[Damien]

I would like to see this figure next to Threezero GOT Daenerys for size comparison

 

[abake]

Beautiful figure.

 

[Asta]

The two Jeannes left Hong Kong yesterday afternoon.

I don't know how he arranged it, but on 27th January OneSixthKit emailed me to say that the horse would be despatched from mainland China, rather than his own Hong Kong location. The two Jeannes would follow a few days later from Hong Kong.

Knowing how long parcels from the mainland can wait in the holding area prior to boarding a flight, plus the imminent Chinese new year, I set myself up for a long wait...


The parcel left Shenzen the same day, accounting for the time zone difference...and arrived in the UK 21.16 last night!

It was released from customs three minutes later at 21.19.

That's got to be the quickest turnaround I've had, though the massively boxed Blitzway Ghostbusters deluxe set was only minutes as well.

He's currently 20 miles away, ready for delivery today.

This will be my fist 1/6 horse since I sold Dragon's Blitz.

 

[Asta]

She's a beautiful looking horse.


Quite heavy. Feels/sounds like hollow resin, and is very stable, if you pardon the pun!

She measures 13.75" to the top of her ears, and I think 10.5" to the top of the withers. Not easy to be accurate with that unless you have something similar to the kind of measuring stick used for a real horse.


In real life that's 63" to the withers, and using the calculation as described here,


https://www.thesprucepets.com/how-to-measure-a-horses-height-1887322


means that she's the equivalent of 15.3 hands high.


(63 divided by 4" per hand = 15 hands plus 3" = 15.3 HH).

 

[Asta]

The straps are fiddly but the buckles are large enough that it never looks impossible, as it sometimes does when trying to put gear on a regular figure.


My process for assembly was the saddle blanket on first. I put the tail into a plastic bag to keep the hair together in order to get it through the loop.


Next are the stirrups, which lay loose over the blanket. Then the saddle, the cinch strap being the first part that you buckle up.


I put the chest armour (peytral) on next, which has a strap on either side connecting to the harness at the front end of the blanket.


The trickiest parts were the rear armour plates (crupper) since they're heavy metal, and need supporting as you attach the first strap. I worked on the three straps at the top of each crupper, levelling them up as I went. The final two straps that bring everything together are from the front of the crupper to the saddle.

 

[Asta]

The sculpts are really very well done. I wouldn't be disappointed if these had arrived on a HT figure. In fact I think the sculpts may owe their origins to the venerable HT Resident Evil Alice, except that POPToys' paint is much better.


The quality is a lot better than my photos suggest, which is usually the case:

First thing of note was that the boxes were heavy. The Burgundian armour is significantly moreso. I don't know that I'd want to risk having either of these sitting on the horse.

 

[Asta]

In some of the BBICN reviews there was reference to something strange going on with the neck. Because the Google translation is rarely much good I didn't understand what they meant.


But this is it what it was:

Both figures have that cup over the neck ball joint, which is a standard thing.


Yet the short haired sculpt has one of those cups already inside it. So one cup rests on the other, raising the sculpt so that the lower one is still visible. The only explanation can be that POPToys considered the head was sitting too low.


But they haven't taken into consideration the thickness of the armour. Looking at screencaps her chin overlaps the gorget:








Here, even with her head tilited back, her chin is only just above the gorget:





So I pulled the cup out of the head. Luckily it wasn't glued in as some are. Now her head goes to the bottom of the cup and sits where it should on the neck.


In fact, looking from the side now the sculpt lines up exactly like this:





The Burgundian armoured figure completed:

You can see that the neck guards on the pauldrons have been scaled down on the figure, they don't extend as far back or as far forward as in the film. You also have to take into account that in the movie still her hair was wet, whereas the figure has a dry mop of hair. The pauldrons are smaller in general though.

 

[Antarion]

Thanks for the posts. Can't wait for my order

 

[Asta]

Thanks for the posts. Can't wait for my order

These are certainly great looking figures!

Here's the 'Charge' version:

I removed the front armour, which I'm no longer sure are meant to be faulds or tassets. Faulds attach to the plackart/breastplate/cuirass, and tassets attach to the faulds to protect the thighs. But in this case the tassets attach directly to the plackart.

In any case I unstrapped them as in the movie she doesn't wear them with her first armour. Unfortunately the mail is a bit too short. This may have something to do with the thickness of the arming doublet, which extends to just above the end of the mail.

The other figure in the Burgundian armour must have a different doublet. It has a blue collar for a start, but I can't see the bottom of it. It must be short enough that it ends at the bottom of the breastplate. That might account for the mail being longer on this one.


However, if she's mounted the short mail won't be so obvious.

I test fitted her while she had the tassets still attached, but I didn't spend any time getting her right down in the saddle:

 

[Asta]

I got her onto the horse.


She sits right down into the saddle very easily. Then it's a juggling act of trying to make her as secure as you can with the stirrups. Her right foot fell off a couple of times. The ankle peg is a kind I haven't seen before. It's a thin rod a bit like the end of a hand peg where it attaches to the arm. But it's smooth, without any friction grooves.


Her gripping hands are too wide to hold the banner, unless the end is braced against the ground. So to have her holding it while mounted I cut a strip of leather and wrapped it round the pole, then placed her hand around the leather.


At first I had the mounted version with the long haired sculpt and helmet, but somehow it didn't look quite right. At the same time I was starting to think that the Burgundian armour with the short hair wasn't working. Maybe because my clearest memory of that armour is when she's in the rain and her hair is drenched. The fuller hair on the sculpt was at odds with the proportionally smaller armour around her neck.


The heads are very easy to change as they just slide down onto the neck cup, so it's no problem to switch them around whenever you feel like it.

For scale reference with the CooModel Gothic armour:

Without the armour she would stand at about 10.5", making her 5' 3". So about the height of the real Jeanne.

 

[abake]

Damn... I want this figure...
Thanks for all the pics!