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Post Your 1:1 Helmets and/or Props
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clutch
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Or go to the RPF and make one about 1000x more accurate. 
myc
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Well, what about the signature then?
jkno
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Or go to the RPF and make one about 1000x more accurate.
Unfortunately some people don't care about accuracy. There are collectors on many forums who only want licensed stuff with nice display cases, COAs and numbered plaques, and have no idea about the larger world of fan made props, which in many cases an be made from original parts. They miss a lot, but they are happy in their little licensed bubble world.
What's the problem with that if it is an informed decision. To each his own, as they say. It's not like there's a right or wrong here. You make it sound like collecting licensed replicas is either a bad or even stupid thing to do.
jkno
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What's the problem with that if it is an informed decision. To each his own, as they say. It's not like there's a right or wrong here. You make it sound like collecting licensed replicas is either a bad or even stupid thing to do.
I think you kinda missed my point. First I didn't quote you, neither was I referring to you in particular. Second I didn't force anyone to collect anything, I just stated a few sad but true things. On Rebelscum for example there were a couple guys coming with awesome replicas made of original parts, the most recent being of a collector showing one of the best Luke Macrobinoculars ever made. The response was so minimal that was an eerie feeling there, knowing how many so called "prop collectors" are on that particular board. Heck if Master Replicas made a child with EFX and called him Superman Skywalker they couldn't make a better replica than that Luke Macro, and still only a couple replies there, because it wasn't... licensed. On the other hand on RPF it was insane.
I didn't take it is if it was pointed at me. I don't think I said anything about that. Sure, I can see where you are coming from. A lot of people are surely living under the illusion that licensed replicas are accurate. But I just find it their loss and their loss only. If they enjoy licensed products and those items contribute to their love and excitement over e.g. Star Wars then good for them. Other fans may desire more and go beyond the quality of accuracy of licensed replicas. Good for them. These are different groups of people.
If I enjoy classical music I wouldn't share a piece I like in a group for jazz-listeners. And if I did I'm sure that some would like it but the majority might not find it very interesting. But you could still argue that both groups love music equally. Same goes for Star Wars.
If I enjoy classical music I wouldn't share a piece I like in a group for jazz-listeners. And if I did I'm sure that some would like it but the majority might not find it very interesting. But you could still argue that both groups love music equally. Same goes for Star Wars.
j97e1
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Paid $1700 for it.
Jack Bauer
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I paid $240 total for mine and it is the most recent run made by Anakin Starkiller on the RPF. It is an EXACT replica of the original filming prop which is now owned by Brandon Alinger of The Prop Store and founder of the RPF. It doesn't get any closer than that. I love my Luke V2.
Info on this saber run can be found here:
the RPF
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jkno
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There is something else, I didn't mention in my previous message since I had to leave for a moment. Usually people start collecting licensed and then go for fan made more accurate props. Only rare exceptions are vice versa. The thing is like with music you start listening to what you like and then you might develop taste for other things. You start listening to jazz but maybe you develop taste for classical music. Maybe you should share that classical piece to the other group.
Many collectors don't know, and I accentuate on don't know, the fact that there is a larger world when talking about props out there - and there are a LOT of them - just go on FISD and look at the many newcomers who want to know more and ask questions. This prop world is similar, but also different, from the custom world of figures and statues, because in this case you might handle pieces that are from the same era and maybe even the same batch like the screen used. This is the closest thing you can get, except having the original prop that appeared in the movies.
And this is also why we got for example EFX to make the Legend lines, not because of people who are happy with their idealized shiny collectibles, but because of people who wanted a very accurate (within limits) helmet or prop. Though the funny thing is that with only a few notable exceptions, most idealized props collectors went for the Legend, but not because of its accuracy or because of the love for wonkiness and asymmetric details, but because it was more limited and thus, in their eyes, more valuable. If it was reversed, all of them would have been instantly collecting the LE - there is even an old thread on RPF about this. And this is one of the reasons people are collecting licensed props, a somewhat secure resale value.
Some collectors might not be interested in fan made stuff because some lack COA's, shiny brushed metal plaques, nice art boxes and fancy stands, but they are also forgetting the licensed ones are made in China by uninterested and underpaid workers, who don't care, nor know what they are really working on. Real prop collectors might not be interested that much in these shiny trinkets, as they are in the props themselves. A custom plaque and stand you can make separately, but many fan made props are light years ahead in terms of details and accuracy compared to licensed ones, not to mention that fact that they are made by professionals who know and love what they are doing, and who put a part of their soul in each of the items they are making.
I have a few friends whom I introduced to unlicensed world of props, the same way a couple friends introduced me to it before, and others introduced them. The unlicensed prop world is not like a secret society, it is there for everyone who wants to learn a bit about the way the props were made back then and how you can make or get them today - and not spend a fortune on a real screen used item. And if then you are still happy with an overly idealized collectible then is ok. Still some people want to learn about this and go further, but they need to know there is more out there than just Icons, MR, Hasbro and EFX. Just follow this thread and see how many unlicensed props are mentioned here.
This is not about what is better, or who is right, because in this case everything is subjective. This all is about the learning of certain things, and only then making a decision. The world is indeed big enough for both licensed and unlicensed collectors. But why not learn something before saying no to unlicensed, it's like the kid who never tasted a tomato, but he says he doesn't like it. Try to find and hold an accurate prop made from real parts and if you still don't like it, then ok, case is closed. But I have a hunch, that if you are a true prop collector in your heart you will join my dark side of fan made props, even if only for the reason that our cookies have a better taste than your licensed COAs
DarthRusty
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Ever since I started collecting I've wanted the ROTJv2 SE. It's too late for me now...
It's funny, when I first got this (when it was new) I was kind of blazè towards it. But now I love it... especially since it's the one mostly seen in Jedi. I do hope you find one, especially in your price range. Don't give up!
I know there are more "accurate" ones out there, but I love this one. & recently I have gotten into more "fan made" pieces. I'm almost finished building my own Darth Vader Lightsaber from ESB out of a Hieland flash handle (I know the original was an MPP - but those are crazy hard to find, & insane $$$). & with all that... I still love this piece. As is said often in our world, collect what you like.
DarthRusty
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$1,700 for it?!
I'm excited for you... but that hurts. Kinda makes me want to sell mine actually.... N'ah.
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I have a fan made ROTJ Luke I got years ago that I love. Only paid $300 for it. MR certainly made some fine products but the fan made stuff was better and more affordable.
clutch
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He's basically paying for the signature.
jkno
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Mark Hamill is alive and well, and signs tirelessly at various conventions. His signature is not rare, nor very expensive. For a fan wanting his autograph on a photo or a metal plaque it is not hard to do it through Official Pix, Wattographs and other official ways, through various forum members and friends (Rebelscum has a great section for autographs and are very helpful) or directly at a convention.
jkno
Stormtrooper
A fantastic video about... PROPS:
Why Props Matter
A look at the hidden power of film props.
And how filmmakers use the everyday (and not so everyday) objects in their scenes to enhance cinematic storytelling.
Written, edited, & narrated by Rishi Kaneria
https://vimeo.com/143619334
Why Props Matter - Digg
Why Props Matter in Film - Tested
Seems the youtube video was taken down, so I edited to add are a couple more links to watch this great video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4XDvZKntpA
Why Props Matter
A look at the hidden power of film props.
And how filmmakers use the everyday (and not so everyday) objects in their scenes to enhance cinematic storytelling.
Written, edited, & narrated by Rishi Kaneria
https://vimeo.com/143619334
Why Props Matter - Digg
Why Props Matter in Film - Tested
Seems the youtube video was taken down, so I edited to add are a couple more links to watch this great video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4XDvZKntpA
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Nice video. Will share that on my FB.
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