PREORDER NOW! [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

[Pajji]

Re: [iminime] The Deadly Vipers - The Angry Bride, The Yakuza Queen

And GoGo? Would love to display kiddo with GoGo on the shelf

 

[Wake]

Hey Mike,

I'm just want to offer a quick point or two in rebuttal...

Firstly I've been privy to quite a few things since my concrete involvement with Denny including a better understanding of profit margins and costs. The TWD sets, as popular as they were, actually LOST money. It wasn't a huge financial failure but the project served only to keep the staff busy and paid with no additional profits and gains. It's seems a little naive of you to think that the prices for Iminime projects would remain the same forever especially considering that the prices of the entire hobby go up by about 20-25% yearly. In hot toys case almost 100% increases have been the norm over the course of three years is so (look at the price if Igor iron man in comparison to the list price of iron monger when it was released). Furthermore to insinuate that the price increases are due to cinemascale a involvement is a reach. However lets put it into perspective... Better product photos? That costs money. And if you think all it entails is pointing a camera you are wrong. Better website? Better customer service? Do you think these things are free? What about 3D printed accessories? What about ridding the product for those terrible shoes?

You want to compare Rainman's accessory quality that's fine but rainman also charged a lot more for his sets. Last I checked you don't get three full figures with accessories for less than $1200 with Lee. And if what you want is form iminimes to reach Lees level then u should applaud the increase in price and the dedication to improve.

The fact is the decision on wether or not Iminime raises the price does not sit with you. It's not a question of what you'd rather Iminime charge. The market bears it. And based on the sales for these sets I can tell you that most see the outstanding value and craftsmanship.


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and btw comments like this:

'll buy thru Cinema Scale because it looks like Omar lost out on a few orders that should have went his way, and for the most part I like his involvement thus far. A more user friendly and jazzier looking site is awesome and better pics are appreciated. Also, I think that the load of everything on Denny's plate plus having to handle with the fan base on the Freaks was wearing Denny thin. I know first-hand because he got pretty pissed at me over what was for the most part a misunderstanding; so the way Wake severs as a buffer between us and Denny can be a very positive thing and help convey the collective messages in a positive way. I’m going with the flow this time but all of that said, if Cinema Scale's involvement has anything to do with price hikes on accessory light sets... then I'd prefer things the way they were. Not trying to start a mess or offend anyone, just speaking from the heart

Are why people like Denny get offended. You can't call someone a ****ing ***hole and then be like 'hey no offense!" On top of the fact that your comment smacks of entitlement. You PREFER?! LOL. Its not up to what you prefer.... sheeesh.

 

[Kubrick]

All caught up .

I hate to be the only stick in the mud but it seems that I'm the only one that's confused with the price hike on a set that includes less than usual . I get the modded bods, and the magnet system but doesn't the lack of accessories and the fact that the one and only accessory is resin balance all of them out??? We've got sets with more FANTASTIC accessories (including real metal) and equally great outfits at the $390 price point (in Bateman's case, less) before this; currently Spok's set is up for $390 and has a great outfit and accessory spread as well.

IMO I think that each package is slightly overpriced (the biker set most of all) when you compare apples to apples with the prior Iminime releases. And this can't even remotely be compared to the Bickle DFS; these sets are two different animals all together. That set includes a slew of creme de la creme accessories, all super accurate and none of which are compromised whatsoever; all top shelf bits including the outfits.

Anyway, I'm just speaking my mind as a longtime client of Iminime and getting my thoughts off my chest. Despite not really liking the price hike and accessory cut situation.... I'm still buying these but I feel that I should air my thoughts as an avid collector and supporter.

I'll buy thru Cinema Scale because it looks like Omar lost out on a few orders that should have went his way, and for the most part I like his involvement thus far. A more user friendly and jazzier looking site is awesome and better pics are appreciated. Also, I think that the load of everything on Denny's plate plus having to handle with the fan base on the Freaks was wearing Denny thin. I know first-hand because he got pretty pissed at me over what was for the most part a misunderstanding; so the way Wake severs as a buffer between us and Denny can be a very positive thing and help convey the collective messages in a positive way. I’m going with the flow this time but all of that said, if Cinema Scale's involvement has anything to do with price hikes on accessory light sets... then I'd prefer things the way they were. Not trying to start a mess or offend anyone, just speaking from the heart

Bang on. I was all but sold on this from the early WIPs. I keep wrestling with myself over the price. I got The Town Sheriff with the additional head and Wallstreet Killer and I love them to death, but reluctantly, might have to pass on Bride.

It would be a 500$ figure for me, for the bare minimum, the training suit. The shipping costs have gone up, not by much but still gone up. Plus I'm in Canada so with the conversion always hurts too.

I really wish the sword was like Batemans axe and knife or Ricks gun. I know this topic has probably been beaten to death.

It is a truly beautiful headsculpt which hurts.

 

[Gruff Old Bear]

Well said, Wake. Well said.

 

[Barbossa]

Nobody would bat an eye at paying $800 for the basic track suit fullset if this were a Rainman release. Well, they might bat an eye...right before hitting the 'submit payment' button. Sure, you might get a metal sword, but likely at the expense of an inferior headsculpt. And honestly, I would pay it as well...I want a Beatrix that badly. So I'm genuinely thankful for iminime filling that void at a much more reasonable price point.

 

[Lejuan]

I'm staying out of the price discussion except to say that I'm priced out of this particular release. Had the accessories been more generous, or the overall price lower I might've justified the purchase to myself. That's all about me though, I'm not suggesting that the price hike isn't fair and reasonable given the cost of production. If this is the pricing that means Iminime continues to operate effectively, so be it.

On the photos, they are really well done - so congrats to whoever is managing that side of the releases.

 

[Wake]

So really what seems to be the problem is a lack of accessories?! Or that the sword isn't metal? Because I can think of what other accessories Kiddo would need. There will be a sword sheath, that was not shown in the pictures. Its detailed in the descriptions.

 

[Bullet]

Are why people like Denny get offended. You can't call someone a ****ing ***hole and then be like 'hey no offense!" On top of the fact that your comment smacks of entitlement. You PREFER?! LOL. Its not up to what you prefer.... sheeesh.

Actually its completely upto him what he 'prefers' its just not up to him what actually happens

 

[Wake]

Actually its completely upto him what he 'prefers' its just nlt up to him what actually happens

Thats what i meant!

 

[Bullet]

Thats what i meant!

I gathered as much I'm just busting ***** anyway lol no harm intended. I'm still on the fence with this release. For the most part cos I don't have the finances quite together yet. I think the accessories are fine I mean like you say what else should she really come with? The plastic sword is a bit of a sticking point I won't lie it really should be metal. No complaints with the price I think its very well priced for what is essentially 3 complete figs.

 

[PopCultKid]

Hey Mike,

I'm just want to offer a quick point or two in rebuttal...

Firstly I've been privy to quite a few things since my concrete involvement with Denny including a better understanding of profit margins and costs. The TWD sets, as popular as they were, actually LOST money. It wasn't a huge financial failure but the project served only to keep the staff busy and paid with no additional profits and gains. It's seems a little naive of you to think that the prices for Iminime projects would remain the same forever especially considering that the prices of the entire hobby go up by about 20-25% yearly. In hot toys case almost 100% increases have been the norm over the course of three years is so (look at the price if Igor iron man in comparison to the list price of iron monger when it was released). Furthermore to insinuate that the price increases are due to cinemascale a involvement is a reach. However lets put it into perspective... Better product photos? That costs money. And if you think all it entails is pointing a camera you are wrong. Better website? Better customer service? Do you think these things are free? What about 3D printed accessories? What about ridding the product for those terrible shoes?

You want to compare Rainman's accessory quality that's fine but rainman also charged a lot more for his sets. Last I checked you don't get three full figures with accessories for less than $1200 with Lee. And if what you want is form iminimes to reach Lees level then u should applaud the increase in price and the dedication to improve.

The fact is the decision on wether or not Iminime raises the price does not sit with you. It's not a question of what you'd rather Iminime charge. The market bears it. And based on the sales for these sets I can tell you that most see the outstanding value and craftsmanship.


EDIT:

and btw comments like this:



Are why people like Denny get offended. You can't call someone a ****ing ***hole and then be like 'hey no offense!" On top of the fact that your comment smacks of entitlement. You PREFER?! LOL. Its not up to what you prefer.... sheeesh.

Whoa, whoa, whoa brother, you're taking it a bit far with that last comment. I get the analogy but using words like that take it to a different place. I never called anything a POS (or whatever you said before you edited it), and I'm DEFINITELY not calling anyone a F'n ___hole or any other name for that matter so don't even use comparisons like that. THAT'S how people get confused.

I'm not comparing this to Rainman.... you did. I'm only responding in disagreement about your comment about this being "a better value than any Bickle out there". And it's not what I'm saying that offends people like Denny, it's stuff like basically every one of your posts in the Bickle thread that offends people . Please don't try to rehash that, I have a tremendous amount of respect for Denny so don't say things that people can get twisted. For the record that time that Denny got pissed wasn't exactly fair to me to be honest. He took a nit that I had over one single accessory extremely harshly. He cleared the confusion to why I had the nit to begin with but in all fairness, that was one nit to the 10 praises I sung in all of the other Iminime threads that week. Aside from verbally, I've been singing Iminime praises with my patronage from before you were even frequenting their threads.

And it's not a matter of entitlement and what I prefer bro. People are talking but I'm the only one who decided to be vocal about it. I'm not saying "hey this is a POS..... but no offence!!!" I'm not being cryptic in what I'm saying whatsoever. I'm saying very plainly that I love your site, I enjoy your pics and poses, and you acting as a buffer and funneling info to Denny probably makes his life easier. I (and I'm not alone) just don't want to see this partnership effect the price point and build-up of the average set (i.e. higher prices, less accessories).

 

[Wake]

The assumption is false though mike. CS involvement isn't the primary reason for the price increase. This has been something a long time coming. The only difference is that you KNOW me. You knew me as a member on these boards BEFORE i became a rep of Denny's. If I was some nameless person that was taking the pictures do you think I wouldnt be getting some form of compensation? And further more, do you think the pictures have had NO effect on sales? Why on earth would Denny be doing something that hurt his chances to grow his business? It's clear the pictures that were being issued for the Iminime figures were NOT helping sales. But lets divorced ourselves of the idea that cinemascale is the reason the prices have gone up. I could go away and I guarantee you the prices would go up anyway

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The issue is that I don't have to explain myself. Neither does Denny. I certainly dont have to delineate for you what my arrangement is or even comment on the arrangement. The fact is the MARKET bears the price. Maybe 1 or 2 or 3 customers dont buy the figure. But the extra $40 a unit means that Iminime makes the same amount of money with 9 sales than they used to with 10. That 1 less headsculpt to cast. One less head to paint. One less costume to make. One less body to modify and paint. one less sword to detail. One less box to buy. etc. And frankly 10% increase in price is NOT excessive by ANY FINANCIAL COMMERCIAL MARKET NORM Multiply that by 50 figures and its the difference between breaking even and making a profit.

 

[PopCultKid]

peace Sorry Omar. I'll let this rest because I don't want it to turn into an ongoing public convo. I have my thoughts but it's better that we discuss via PM. My problem is I have to learn how to shut up. I say publically what others are thinking and I end up being the bad guy.

It doesn't have anything with knowing you or not but I was expressing my opinion. I'm not saying anything differently than things you used to say when you were on this side of the fence.


As I said, the figs look great and I'm in for both. That's saying a lot because I really wasn't hot for an O-Ren fig at first but after watching the flick again (for the thousandth time) and seeing how good she came out, that's a near impossible pass....

 

[siquisiri]

W,
I know that it has been posted that they were working on a wigged sculpt. Is this still going to be released? Will this be in place of the sculpted hair or sold separately?

thanks for the 411 on the fig!

 

[Wake]

W,
I know that it has been posted that they were working on a wigged sculpt. Is this still going to be released? Will this be in place of the sculpted hair or sold separately?

thanks for the 411 on the fig!

Denny is working on a haired sculpt. No time table as of now. It will be offered as an upgrade to the sets if successful. But its a tricky proposition to make it look good and Denny wont release something hes not satisfied with.

 

[Wake]

Sorry Omar. I'll let this rest because I don't want it to turn into an ongoing public convo. I have my thoughts but it's better that we discuss via PM. My problem is I have to learn how to shut up. I say publically what others are thinking and I end up being the bad guy.

If people are saying it then i prefer you not speak for them and let them speak for themselves. Im not privy to private conversations you have with other members... so I cant know whats being said.

The fact is you are complaining about a 10% price increase and furthermore BLAMING me for it! That's not fair. It's also not fair for you to put out irrational and false statements out there and then claim that you are speaking for the masses.

I for one cannot sit idly by without defending Denny's position. I wont allow it. He's been too good a guy (not just to me) but to all of the collectors on this thread. He felt persecuted and unappreciated. Enought to bow out of these forums. SO YOU TELL ME WHO'S IN THE WRONG? Believe me though, im not going anywhere.

 

[siquisiri]

Denny is working on a haired sculpt. No time table as of now. It will be offered as an upgrade to the sets if successful. But its a tricky proposition to make it look good and Denny wont release something hes not satisfied with.

cooolio!! thanks!

 

[PopCultKid]

If people are saying it then i prefer you not speak for them and let them speak for themselves. Im not privy to private conversations you have with other members... so I cant know whats being said.

The fact is you are complaining about a 10% price increase and furthermore BLAMING me for it! That's not fair. It's also not fair for you to put out irrational and false statements out there and then claim that you are speaking for the masses.

I for one cannot sit idly by without defending Denny's position. I wont allow it. He's been too good a guy (not just to me) but to all of the collectors on this thread. He felt persecuted and unappreciated. Enought to bow out of these forums. SO YOU TELL ME WHO'S IN THE WRONG? Believe me though, im not going anywhere.

Irrational? OK. As I said, this is better off PM'd

 

[Commtech]

Can we go back about how freaking awesome these figures are? I honestly can't wait to get them.

 

[Ajkhunter]

Can we go back about how freaking awesome these figures are? I honestly can't wait to get them.

Agreed man, very excited to see the blood photos too!