Prometheus Sequel (ALIEN: Covenant)

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What did Salvation do differently that was unliked? By not being a time travel movie? By taking place in the future? No I liked that.

It just wasn't executed well. Bale sucked. CGI Arnold sucked. Tim Burton's hoe being Skynet sucked. McG sucked. It was just a dumb, mediocre movie.

Yeah, but it gave us the Christian Bale meltdown!
 
Willl u write one??

Did u like it?

Well....

Yes I actually did.

Nowhere the disaster that I was fully expecting to watch unfold.

Shame that AC just blew it off.

I won't keep you in suspense very long while I write up some quick thoughts but I should have asked you guys to guess what you think my opinion would be. :lol


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Okay here are some quick thoughts:

ALIEN: Covenant is not a great movie. Not even close. However I liked enough of it strongly enough that I had a smile on my face at the end, I thought it ended on a really ballsy high note. I don't know what I'd rate it, it was a mixed bag to be sure.

Bits and pieces:

1. I can't believe that we got yet another "crew in cryosleep wakes up early, intercepts a transmission, gets impregnated and brings an alien back on the ship, said alien gets blown out the airlock." I mean what, they seriously did that again? :lol

2. However...I was *completely* blind-sided by the false ending. In fact this might be the first time a false ending caught me off guard since The Lost World. I literally thought it was over when they crushed the first stowaway Xenomorph and flew back to the ship. Yes they completely cheated (a facehugger impregnates a guy who stays conscious??) but right now I don't care because I fell for it hook, line, and sinker. I did guess the twist that David sawed his own hand off but I assumed that the film would leave his identity ambiguous.

3. This movie might have the absolute dumbest space farers in the history of science-fiction. And Billy Crudup? THE most incompetently stupid captain in the history of film, period. I almost expected David to say "Are you ****ing serious??? I literally told you that 'it's perfectly safe' when you entered my lair and then you witnessed me cozying up with an alien that just ripped the head off your crew member and then when I tell you that the eggs are 'perfectly safe' five minutes later you believed me??? I just did that as a joke not to actually kill you but oh well." I mean he literally could have.

4. But the movie had scenes that were genuinely intense. That first "back bursting" scene really seemed to capture the horror and chaos of what witnessing something like that would be like. People panicking and slipping on blood is always an unsettling site to behold. And just watching someone in that panicky state of choosing their own life over a friend like a drowning victim or something. I just really liked the vibe of that whole sequence.

5. I still lol'd when Danny McBride asked "are we doing full quarantine?" Oh NOW you guys suddenly have safety protocols. :lol

6. I chuckled at the "Uncle Bob-ness" of Good David vs. Bad David but the payoff (at the end) was worth it.

7. I was braced for an odd "flute scene" and thought it was weird but then I realized that it was a nice moment that let the film breathe a little bit, a rare commodity in these tentpole pictures these days. Plus the oddness of Fassbender kissing himself was something genuinely unique, also a rare commodity in this era of "retread the past."

8. Having Shaw dismissed off camera felt like Hicks and Newt being erased from Alien 3 or Saruman getting kicked out of theatrical ROTK. I understand why they did it but it always feels a bit cheap and wrong.

9. Hearing ALIEN's old school 1979 score mixed with Prometheus was kind of weird, as was David playing the actual theme on his flute.

10. As much as I loved the surprise showdown at the end it did seem a bit rushed. For a film that actually crossed the line into "bad taste" a couple of times (which actually worked to keep me a bit on my toes) I was surprised at the restraint in the shower scene. After the decades of fans speculating "What did the alien do to Lambert, why did she appear to be hanging with no pants??" I literally thought "Well here you go Ridley, you've got the Xenomorph standing face to face with a completely naked girl, I guess we'll find out," and then...apparently he just killed her quickly like everyone else. Okay I guess that ends that particular mystery with a whimper.

11. I actually liked that we didn't see too much of "Engineer society." Not that it matters anymore because who cares at this point but we did finally see the Space Jockey homeworld (or at least "a" homeworld) and they wisely used it as a backdrop location and didn't waste time exploring even more things that shouldn't be explained.

12. I thought that Danny McBride was one of the dumbest casting decisions imaginable for an ALIEN film and might have liked his character the most.

13. For the most part I loved all the visuals, especially the aliens themselves. I really liked seeing the main Xenomorphs occassionally standing and walking upright.

14. The big action sequence of Daniels being tethered to the dropship ramp as McBride flew all over the place trying to shake the Xenomorph was so ridiculous yet at the same time pretty fun and cool in a totally contrived movie kind of way.

I'm sure I can think of other things that were stupid as well as other things that I liked. A strange mixed bag to be sure and if I still cared about Alien as a franchise then I'm sure I'd say "this isn't canon!" but eh, I don't care and at the end of the day I left the theater entertained. Probably my favorite film of the year so far (again, a very low bar to achieve) and the one I'll most likely revisit the soonest.
 
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Well, I pretty much know the whole movie now so not much reason to see it in the theater. I look forward to the alien bits released on youtube. The rest I'll catch on HBO in October.
 
Well, I pretty much know the whole movie now so not much reason to see it in the theater. I look forward to the alien bits released on youtube. The rest I'll catch on HBO in October.

AW **** did I just spoil the whole damn movie!? ****! Four days felt like an eternity and I stupidly assumed that I was the last to see it (because apparently no one else would ever have any reason to see it after opening weekend.)

*shakes head* Added spoiler tags to my post above.
 
Well, I pretty much know the whole movie now so not much reason to see it in the theater. I look forward to the alien bits released on youtube. The rest I'll catch on HBO in October.

I'm fine with it

My must see summer flick list was pretty much

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This wasn't even a thought
 
As a fan of Alien and Aliens, I was interested in this. I thought Promo was an interesting film with too many flaws, in that it had some pretty good concepts, but failed in the execution of those concepts and themes. My interest in this is fading more and more all the time. Seems that the lamp has run out of oil with Scott and this franchise.
 
My 2nd time seeing it now.
It felt like dating a younger, hot (but intellectually challenged) woman and having a fun night out.
However, while I consider her a fling and others might see her as girlfriend material.... she's definitely not marriage material like her older sister (Alien). Meanwhile, their cool father has become a senior citizen and an alcoholic who wants trick women into having more of his kids.

All in all, a fun ride but definitely not a classic.
 
As a fan of Alien and Aliens, I was interested in this. I thought Promo was an interesting film with too many flaws, in that it had some pretty good concepts, but failed in the execution of those concepts and themes. My interest in this is fading more and more all the time. Seems that the lamp has run out of oil with Scott and this franchise.

He's losing his creativity on this franchise . The fans are expecting too much from him. Time to pass the reins like Lucas did with SW. :lecture

When I said the " Beauty " of Pro I meant it literally ..it was a visually stunning cinematic film in just the landscaping alone..very Giger

Had a feeling it would be hard to replicate :(
 
By far the most disturbing moment in the film and possibly the entire series was:

when Daniels asked David about him helping her with the cabin and instead of playing along he deliberately dropped his cover since he knew there was nothing she could do about it at that point. Just so he could look into her eyes as she realized that he'd won and that all those horrifying things that were done to Shaw would indeed be done to her. Freaking diabolical. And the fact that it ended on that note makes me totally fine with the over the top cheese of her surviving the battle with the first xeno and then later when the cargo hatch was opened against the second.
 
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The more I've let the movie simmer, the more I'm thinking: Covenant is a better film (structurally/script-wise) than Prometheus, but Prometheus is more interesting. I remember nearly getting goosebumps the first time I saw the Engineer wake up. Hearing it speak in the deleted scene was equally awe-inspiring.

Prometheus, as clumsy as it is, raises so many exciting, fantastical questions. Covenant sweeps some under the rug and offers unsatisfying answers for others. In short, it works -- and casual moviegoers may be more pleased -- but it could've been so much cooler.

I'd rather Ridley took his time and kept going with the Engineer storyline. Keep the Neomorph element, but put off the Xenomorph for as long as possible. Dunno about you all, but it's more exciting for me to see precursors of Alien DNA in these movies than the classic Xeno itself. Show me more Engineers. More ships. More weird, intermediate stages and mutations. More things that hint at what becomes the world of the 1979 film rather than that world exactly. Because once you finally see it, there's no reason to continue.
 
but it's more exciting for me to see precursors of Alien DNA in these movies than the classic Xeno itself. Show me more Engineers. More ships. More weird, intermediate stages and mutations. More things that hint at what becomes the world of the 1979 film rather than that world exactly. Because once you finally see it, there's no reason to continue.


Oh god -- it's Anakin all over again! :slap
 
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