Prometheus Sequel (ALIEN: Covenant)

[GasparZizou]

^That wasn't love, but you're supposed to think it is, that's what's creepy; You totally would've been killed by the Ex-Machina chick.

Yeah like I said, there would be a sardonic payback component:

but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a hint of sardonic payback in his actions, after all, he's a passive aggressive ****, there's definitely some self-awareness in that android.

But definitely not love, in fact, since he's a little self-aware, he would've realized he was just a tool for Weyland; Hell I think he came to the realization that he was a slave during Prometheus itself.

 

[crows]

Robots CAN love though

 

[GasparZizou]

Once they become sufficiently self-aware and live sufficiently long; I guess; in which case they would know who to love.

 

[GasparZizou]

Wait a minute, are you a robot? You seem rather pushy about this...

 

[crows]

Wait a minute, are you a robot? You seem rather pushy about this...

 

[GasparZizou]

Now THIS is a robot that can love.

Spoiler

 

[Victοr]

Robots CAN love though

Say what you will, I liked that flick.

As for A.I. (the film), the story behind it is certainly interesting.

And as for A.I. IRL, dunno, really. In theory, robots could at some point have a complex enough source code that'll allow them to behave like humans, but considering the various proteins and chemical reactions that happen in our bodies will be absent in them, I don't think they'll be able to pass off as real humans. I can get behind the "Code-as-DNA" theory, but eh, it seems a tad "glossed over". Like something you'd hear in an episode of Bill "Lie" Nye's "show" (do I hate that guy, alongside his posse and others like NDT). "Synthezoids" have better chances.

I think the different "factions" thing is a given, It's like expecting people from earth, from different countries, races, religions, classes, etc to look the same, there's bound to be differences within any society, but that doesn't mean they are necessarily opposite or against each other in the case of the engineers.

It's one of the things that irk me about most sci-fi flicks/shows/games and whatnot. Every race is the same, with a small group of anarchists or something popping up a couple of years later. Entire planets speak one tongue, look the same, have the same cultures, etc, etc. It's rather silly.

Man, everything about the Prometheus-verse is super interesting at concept level, if the movie wasn't so shoddily written I would take Scott's vision any day easily over what the franchise became with Cameron and Aliens.

Prometheus at concept level captures what Alien is supposed to be about; cosmic horror.

Ditto.

 

[crows]

Say what you will, I liked that flick.

As for A.I. (the film), the story behind it is certainly interesting.

And as for A.I. IRL, dunno, really. In theory, robots could at some point have a complex enough source code that'll allow them to behave like humans, but considering the various proteins and chemical reactions that happen in our bodies will be absent in them, I don't think they'll be able to pass off as real humans. I can get behind the "Code-as-DNA" theory, but eh, it seems a tad "glossed over". Like something you'd hear in an episode of Bill "Lie" Nye's "show" (do I hate that guy, alongside his posse and others like NDT). "Synthezoids" have better chances.




It's one of the things that irk me about most sci-fi flicks/shows/games and whatnot. Every race is the same, with a small group of anarchists or something popping up a couple of years later. Entire planets speak one tongue, look the same, have the same cultures, etc, etc. It's rather silly.



Ditto.

Whats the story behind AI? Can u tell me some more?

 

[Victοr]

Whats the story behind AI? Can u tell me some more?

Kubrick wanted to make a heartfelt flick like Spielberg's. Spielberg wanted to make a more serious, unsettling film like Kubrick's. When Kubrick died, Spielberg took over, and tried to make a Kubrick film, trying to be a Spielberg film, while using his own, Spielberg techniques. Most assumed the whole bit with the "aliens" and whatnot was just Spielberg being all "whimsical", but that was actually in Kubrick's draft, and it was his original plan.

The end result is a mess, as it has ideas, concepts and techniques from both, and they really do not mesh together. But it was essentially Spielberg doing Kubrick a solid.

 

[crows]

Wow........

I actually like watching it. Visually the movie was really really nice, and the acting was pretty good too.

 

[GasparZizou]

Well, I wonder if someone told Spielberg that no Kubrick comes across at all...

It's one of the things that irk me about most sci-fi flicks/shows/games and whatnot. Every race is the same, with a small group of anarchists or something popping up a couple of years later. Entire planets speak one tongue, look the same, have the same cultures, etc, etc. It's rather silly.

I think it's a reasonable picture of advanced Alien civilizations, I mean look at where we're going with the pushing of race mixing and such, therefore I think it's reasonable sci-fi thinking (or maybe a reflex) to imagine some alien planets as homogeneous.

In the case of the Engineers, since it's the "root" race, I think it's ok they all look the same; like Greek classical marble statues.

 

[Victοr]

Wow........

I actually like watching it. Visually the movie was really really nice, and the acting was pretty good too.

I saw it once when I was young, and I can remember only bits and pieces. Like ChrisRockBot...

Well, I wonder if someone told Spielberg that no Kubrick comes across at all...

It was generally just a poor idea all around. Since Kubrick died, his film should've died with him.

I think it's a reasonable picture of advanced Alien civilizations, I mean look at where we're going with the pushing of race mixing and such, therefore I think it's reasonable sci-fi thinking (or maybe a reflex) to imagine some alien planets as homogeneous.

It's not highly illogical, but for every alien race, in every book/film/etc to be like that, makes it boring in the end. The closest I can remember to an alien race being more "realistic" are the Kree, with the feud between the pink and blue skins. Dune always seemed to go against that trope, but the whole saga is like, 12 books, each one of them 1k pages long, so I never found the time to read them.

As for our state, I don't really know what to think with the way the world is going, especially on the social issues. I can't say I'm liking all those weird manips of "this is what humans will look like in 100 years". I just caught a rundown of that new Bill Nye show, and it's worse than I expected, really. Like, it's bad. Worse than bad, actually. It's horrendous. The stuff 4chan joked about came true... It's pseudo-science for normies and redditors, coupled with SJW preaching.

In the case of the Engineers, since it's the "root" race, I think it's ok they all look the same; like Greek classical marble statues.

I guess. But even in our world, while the West was inspired by the Ancient Greek/Roman Eras, the East had its own root civilizations and whatnot. It's possible that the Engineers had just one grand race. We'll just have to wait and see, and hope this time the execution isn't as bad, 'cause the ideas are still good.

PS: Marvel is doing a REBIRTH, right down to the one shot. No creators named, but that rumor that the A-Listers are coming back broke around the same time, so I guess they'll get folks like Hickman, Remender and whatnot to return. Most of those guys don't have more than one or two books being publishing anyway, so they can squeeze some Big Two work (Hickman pitched a Legion book, but it was rejected for being too grim).

 

[GasparZizou]

I just caught a rundown of that new Bill Nye show, and it's worse than I expected, really. Like, it's bad. Worse than bad, actually. It's horrendous. The stuff 4chan joked about came true... It's pseudo-science for normies and redditors, coupled with SJW preaching.

I expected nothing less from Bill "I'm not a real scientist" Nye, """science""" has become the atheist normie's God and they don't even understand it, they just quote it, like actual religion.

PS: Marvel is doing a REBIRTH, right down to the one shot. No creators named, but that rumor that the A-Listers are coming back broke around the same time, so I guess they'll get folks like Hickman, Remender and whatnot to return. Most of those guys don't have more than one or two books being publishing anyway, so they can squeeze some Big Two work (Hickman pitched a Legion book, but it was rejected for being too grim).

Nice, I look forward to it.

It was generally just a poor idea all around. Since Kubrick died, his film should've died with him.

I think it's kinda funny the Kubric influence was limited to a handful of nods with barely similar photography.

 

[Victοr]

I expected nothing less from Bill "I'm not a real scientist" Nye, """science""" has become the normie's God and they don't even understand it, they just quote it, like actual religion.

To be honest, the fedora-tipping SCIENZXCE Dudebros have destroyed the word "science" for me. I can't even say it at this point, as images of neckbeards with Richard Dawkins and Isaac Asimov quotes chanting BILL! BILL! flash before my eyes. They read the most basic stuff, written in a "wink-wink, yer so smart lad" format, and act like they're damn Nobel-Winners.

At least with religious nuts, they go all "it's magic, I ain't gotta explain ****". SCIENZXCE Dudebros go all "SCIENXZCE" and don't bother to even make sense. It's as if the only science they've been exposed to is high school physics, and they can't grasp the fact that the two "corners" could meet...

Here's the breakdown of Nye's Show's Episodes:

Ep. 1 is Climate change
Ep. 2 is Homeopathic medicines
Ep. 3 is Artificial Intelligence and mentions "twitterbots gone rogue" in reference to Tay I believe (RIP)
Ep. 4 is GMO's and Monsanto
Ep. 5 is Panspermia and aliens ft. Will Whedon
Ep. 6 is Vaccines and anti-Vaxxers
Ep. 7 is video game technology
Ep. 8 is nutrition and fad diets
Ep. 9 is "The Sexual Spectrum"
Ep. 10 is about space travel
Ep. 11 is psuedoscience and conspiracy theroies such as crop circles, chem trails and probably flat Earthers
Ep. 12 is about IVF and designers babies
Ep. 13 is about tackling world overpopulation by empowering women ft. womyn comedian Joanna Hausmann

He explains sex and gender with a damn abacus. The word cis flashes in your screen...

This is real...

A fashion model is a co-host...

Ah, gotta love (((science))) bro. Now let me put on Rick & Morty on the tv, wear my fedora, trim my neckbeard, drink some mountain dew and go ridicule theists on boards 'cause now I knowz of everythingz!

Normies have ruined Comic Books, Nerd Culture and now they're even ruining science... Dunno how, but... People were afraid of 1984, but "Brave New World" seems more in line with what's happening now...

Nice, I look forward to it.

Honestly, I'm not expecting much, as they're still trying to push characters like Ameica "Holy Menstruation" Chavez. I'm just hoping for a Hickman Iron Man book, Doom to be around, and Moon Knight not to go back to Bendis (he's getting primed for that NF show, so you know they're gonna try something like that). Everything else is icing on the cake. I'm more excited about King's New Gods project TBH.

 

[GasparZizou]

To be honest, the fedora-tipping SCIENZXCE Dudebros have destroyed the word "science" for me. I can't even say it at this point, as images of neckbeards with Richard Dawkins and Isaac Asimov quotes chanting BILL! BILL! flash before my eyes. They read the most basic stuff, written in a "wink-wink, yer so smart lad" format, and act like they're damn Nobel-Winners.

At least with religious nuts, they go all "it's magic, I ain't gotta explain ****". SCIENZXCE Dudebros go all "SCIENXZCE" and don't bother to even make sense. It's as if the only science they've been exposed to is high school physics, and they can't grasp the fact that the two "corners" could meet...

Here's the breakdown of Nye's Show's Episodes:

Ep. 1 is Climate change
Ep. 2 is Homeopathic medicines
Ep. 3 is Artificial Intelligence and mentions "twitterbots gone rogue" in reference to Tay I believe (RIP)
Ep. 4 is GMO's and Monsanto
Ep. 5 is Panspermia and aliens ft. Will Whedon
Ep. 6 is Vaccines and anti-Vaxxers
Ep. 7 is video game technology
Ep. 8 is nutrition and fad diets
Ep. 9 is "The Sexual Spectrum"
Ep. 10 is about space travel
Ep. 11 is psuedoscience and conspiracy theroies such as crop circles, chem trails and probably flat Earthers
Ep. 12 is about IVF and designers babies
Ep. 13 is about tackling world overpopulation by empowering women ft. womyn comedian Joanna Hausmann

He explains sex and gender with a damn abacus. The word cis flashes in your screen...

This is real...

Holy crap.

So it's; Social engineering 101, a crash course to brain washing: The show. huh? Ugh.

A fashion model is a co-host...

This one doesn't seem to be so bad, for a fashion model it's impressive she can handle the terminal and get a "Hello world" going...

Normies have ruined Comic Books, Nerd Culture and now they're even ruining science... Dunno how, but... People were afraid of 1984, but "Brave New World" seems more in line with what's happening now...

You know, one sounds like a total ****** saying it, but boy if that isn't true...

 

[Victοr]

Holy crap.

So it's; Social engineering 101, a crash course to brain washing: The show. huh? Ugh.

I haven't watched it (and I can't find clips), but from others who have seen it, it's just basic "scienzxce" stuff with Bill taking a minute or two every episode to rant about politics and whatnot. I wasn't expecting match from a Saturday Morning Entertainer who titled his show "...SAVES the WORLD", but this is just bad...

This one doesn't seem to be so bad, for a fashion model it's impressive she can handle the terminal and get a "Hello world" going...

Impressive enough to be a co-host on a "science" show though?

You know, one sounds like a total ****** saying it, but boy if that isn't true...

I used t think that newcomers would make things better, but the opposite has happened. In their quest to attract this mythical new customer, companies are pandering to loud and vocal minorities, and this hive-mind of the "internet geniuzez" is infesting something very crucial. It's just a bad deal all around. I just hope it'll be over soon and they'll move on to the next fad.

 

[GasparZizou]

I'm glad you're being redpilled brah :

I intended in watching the Bill Nye show, but I was 100% sure it was gonna be like that, he's more a propagandist lately than a scientist, if he ever was one, and the fact that he got that chick Hausmann, who is just another corky millennial irreverent funny liberal girl made me realize just the kind of show it was gonna be.

 

[Victοr]

I'm glad you're being redpilled brah :

Most of the stuff over there is crap, but 4chan has legitimate points once in a while, especially for Reddit.

I intended in watching the Bill Nye show, but I was 100% sure it was gonna be like that, he's more a propagandist lately than a scientist, if he ever was one, and the fact that he got that chick Hausmann, who is just another corky millennial irreverent funny liberal girl made me realize just the kind of show it was gonna be.

Eh, I never liked him, so I never put BNStW on my schedule. I had a feeling it'd be crap, but I didn't expect it to be so awful. The fact that it came and went with nobody noticing makes me think nobody past internet scienzxce bros cares at this point. His whole act is just so predictadle, and his audience is worse than the people they ridicule.

 

[GasparZizou]

I just saw the Weyland logos and they're straight up Sumerian and Egyptian wings of the gods, that's lit af.

 

[RIDDICK]