Queen Studios / InArt to do sixth scale figures

[RandomHero]

That's sad if true. Would explain the cost raise on Legolas. And a number of other things.

Makes me nervous that they will focus on sure-fire sellers -- like Ledger Joker 2.0 -- and not more risky figures like Gimli.

Again, I fear Daenerys will be cancelled.

My mind also went straight to the huge price jump on Legolas. If they're hurting financially, it makes sense that they're increasing prices to put a dent in that - as well as not putting more measures in place for better QC, and why Aragorn pre-order opportunities kept popping up.

Sirius Black about to be ready, whatever that entails, suggest maybe they won't go back to the well on Ledger Joker and Gandalf the White right off the bat. It would be silly for them to do that regardless, but considering the Harry Potter characters sold less than the LOTR and DC figures, maybe the license is cheaper and they're just going to run with those kinds of characters to help bring in cash.

I too worry about Daenerys. Incredible that the void on that character will continue.

 

[RandomHero]

InArt's 1/12 figures will be entirely or mostly sculpted, kind of like Mafex or SHF.

They were smart in not pursuing clothed 1/12 figures as they are more expensive to produce and aren't received as well as sculpted figures because 1/12 collectors don't like how the clothes restrict articulation and most of them don't really want to own a "mini 1/6 figure" they want a toy, and InArt's strategy will be offering toys but with much better sculpting and paint.

As far Leon, I believe it's from RE2 remake but I could be wrong. Someone told me it's because InArt likes making figures that have already been done by other brands so they have a physical product to draw from themselves and so collectors can inevitably compare the two figures to show how superior their version is. I believe this is more of a personal opinion than anything.

Meant to post this with the other snippet. Just thought it was interesting, from a very credible person here.

 

[evenflow]

The only figure Inart figure I ordered was MJ. Paid in full to get the discount on their website. Doubt I will ever get it. I think they will fold before it ever happens.

 

[HyperDrive]

The only figure Inart figure I ordered was MJ. Paid in full to get the discount on their website. Doubt I will ever get it. I think they will fold before it ever happens.

Some of you guys are too much.

 

[evenflow]

Some of you guys are too much.

Companies close all the time. It could happen to Hot Toys too. It’s a risk we take with any preorder.

 

[RandomHero]

The only figure Inart figure I ordered was MJ. Paid in full to get the discount on their website. Doubt I will ever get it. I think they will fold before it ever happens.

That’s a little ridiculous.

There haven’t been many companies that are truly profitable in their first few years of existence. InArt might not have a great cash in hand situation at the moment but they’re hardly going to go under anytime soon.

 

[Nick D]

We want InArt to show us an even better prototype 2.0 Ledger than the 1.0 prototype they just made previously? That’s asking for an even greater production drop than their first attempt had.

They produced what they thought was the best already, which proved to be too much for their team to handle in production.

They need to focus on QC and the talent, or lack of in these factories they work with. Producing another prototype, a noticeable, justifiable step above the prototype their factories previously struggled with matching, is asking to be let down, again.

If you want to see an improvement,
give them proper time.

Companies go under all the time.
InArt doesn’t produce enough product to borrow funds from one preorder to fund production of another. That’s the kind of gamble that will get you in debt and close shop.

With a lot of people upset with their QC, that likely will limit how many PO they receive on future product, making it difficult to source funds for the products people already paid for and are waiting on.

 

[RandomHero]

Sure, brands go under all the time. And while InArt certainly isn’t immune from that, I don’t think it’s coming any time soon.

Price raises and massive QC issues aside - Kit said Legolas is selling just as well as Aragorn and even extended the pre-order window. And they sold a gajillion Aragorns. It seems like they made even more, which is maybe part of the problem.

InArt has Queen propping them up if they need it. As R_R_X said, they’re finding ways to generate funds in a less expensive manner, and I really believe Sirius Black being announced soon means the Harry Potter license was probably cheap to obtain and even at lower runs, they can probably make money. Smaller runs also mean that there should, in theory, be less QC issues, which should absolutely help them as well.

InArt is getting a pass on things other companies have gotten dragged for and harassed about for whatever reason, so I really don’t think they’re going anywhere in the near future, looming tariffs notwithstanding.

 

[Nick D]

All it takes is for the QC to not be addressed properly and immediately.

Collectors will only tolerate so much.

Sure Legolas is selling well, but that’s because it’s required for the line. People who have Gandalf and Aragorn feel compelled to buy it only because they’re already invested. People who own neither see Legolas as an overpriced cash grab.

You need to use a character that isn’t apart of a grand line, like Pennywise for example, that didn’t sell well at all. They can’t solely rely on LOTR to keep them in business, let’s be real here. LOTR isn’t as popular as you may believe it to be, and frankly that’s all InArt currently has going for them, JND is already competing with them regarding Harry Potter.

They just don’t choose the right properties, nor do they act on said properties effectively, we should have a Bale Batman two years on, yet not a sign of it in sight. I’m not a fan of BVS but that’s another one that is expiring, that universe has wrapped up and isn’t nostalgic enough to draw in the masses, yet still, no Batman or Wonderwoman in sight. People are scared that by the time they get to those, they won’t be in scale with the Cavill Superman.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Trump tariffs could take out a lot of companies, if they're on that edge.

If nothing else, they will certainly eradicate a lot of risk-taking.

 

[HyperDrive]

 

[Nick D]

Trump tariffs could take out a lot of companies, if they're on that edge.

If nothing else, they will certainly eradicate a lot of risk-taking.

This is also true, despite what people may believe,
the US market makes up for the majority of these purchases. InArt needs us despite not being able to legally market to us. Hence why they’re desperately trying to obtain the ability on some releases.

Everything might be made in Asia, but the people in Asia don’t have the nostalgia we do for these IPs therefore they don’t “need” these figures like we do.

 

[0tigadark0]

This is also true, despite what people may believe,
the US market makes up for the majority of these purchases. InArt needs us despite not being able to legally market to us. Hence why they’re desperately trying to obtain the ability on some releases.

Everything might be made in Asia, but the people in Asia don’t have the nostalgia we do for these IPs therefore they don’t “need” these figures like we do.

I have to respectfully disagree on the statement that people don't feel the nostalgia for ips over here in Asia, Many inart collectors out here.

 

[Nick D]

I have to respectfully disagree on the statement that people don't feel the nostalgia for ips over here in Asia, Many inart collectors out here.

For the newer IPs sure, but for example -
Batman 1989, how many in Asia have watched that film? Grew up with it? Terminator?

Which is my point, they’re familiar with TDK, the Marvel universe, but after that? Not much.

Alien? Predator? Blade Runner? Die Hard? You name it, anything before the 2000’s won’t get made by InArt for a reason.

 

[HyperDrive]

For the newer IPs sure, but for example -
Batman 1989, how many in Asia have watched that film? Grew up with it? Terminator?

Which is my point, they’re familiar with TDK, the Marvel universe, but after that? Not much.

Alien? Predator? Blade Runner? Die Hard? You name it, anything before the 2000’s won’t get made by InArt for a reason.

Foreign film was introduced/allowed in China in 1994, so obviously it’s mostly the 21st century IPs that they’re into, but you made a general statement, and didn’t make that distinction. And they do care about the bigger 70s/80s IPs, as much as others do, albeit introduced to it later on.

And they won’t make Alien, Predator or other certain things cause they’re Disney owned. INART doesn’t have those licenses as far as we know.

Also, Alcon Entertainment (Blade Runner licensor) doesn’t allow 1/6 merch. Same with other studios or licensors who don’t allow certain IPs to be made, like Miller with Mad Max, etc. So again, can you at least get your facts straight as to why they won’t do them before making a blanket statement?

 

[Nick D]

Foreign film was introduced/allowed in China in 1994, so obviously it’s mostly the 21st century IPs that they’re into, but you made a general statement, and didn’t make that distinction. And they do care about the bigger 70s/80s IPs, as much as others do, albeit introduced to it later on.

And they won’t make Alien, Predator or other certain things cause they’re Disney owned. INART doesn’t have those licenses as far as we know.

Also, Alcon Entertainment (Blade Runner licensor) doesn’t allow 1/6 merch. Same with other studios or licensors who don’t allow certain IPs to be made, like Miller with Mad Max, etc. So again, can you at least get your facts straight as to why they won’t do them before making a blanket statement?

I simply used those as IPs they’re not familiar with, not that they had any chance at making them.

This is my point, if you think they’re familiar with Terminator you’re mistaken. Most of the media they’ve been exposed to is Spider-man 2 and onwards, this presents a problem, Joker 2019 didn’t even get a China release.

 

[HyperDrive]

I simply used those as IPs they’re not familiar with, not that they had any chance at making them.

This is my point, if you think they’re familiar with Terminator you’re mistaken. Most of the media they’ve been exposed to is Spider-man 2 and onwards, this presents a problem, Joker 2019 didn’t even get a China release.

I won’t repeat myself.

 

[0tigadark0]

I simply used those as IPs they’re not familiar with, not that they had any chance at making them.

This is my point, if you think they’re familiar with Terminator you’re mistaken. Most of the media they’ve been exposed to is Spider-man 2 and onwards, this presents a problem, Joker 2019 didn’t even get a China release.

Yeah, gotta respectfully disagree with this statement as well.

Majority of people over in Asia who are actually purchasing these HT and inart products are people born in the 80s and 90s (2000s maybe as well), thats when many ips from the 70s, 80s and 90s like Terminator, Star Wars etc... were being introduced to us during our childhood.
Those are the ips we are fond of and remember as well, just as how you are nostalgic about them.

Gotta have some faith, inart has already been making ips that HT has been ignoring for years. I guess its just about licensing fees and profit, not about the 2000s or neglecting the 80s or 90s ips.

 

[Nick D]

Yeah, gotta respectfully disagree with this statement as well.

Many people over in Asia who are actually purchasing these HT and inart products are people born in the 90s, thats when many ips from the 80s and 90s like Terminator, Star Wars etc... were being introduced to them during their childhood.
Those are the ips we are fond of and remember as well, just as how you are nostalgic about them.

Gotta have some faith, inart has already been making ips that HT has been ignoring for years. I guess its just about licensing fees and profit, not about the 2000s or neglecting the 80s or 90s ips.

You’re speaking on your behalf, not Asia’s.

It’s about licensing fees and profit, that’s my point.
We haven’t seen an ‘89 Keaton Batman from InArt because it simply isn’t profitable for InArt and their homeland.

This is why we won’t see old properties revisited, they’re ineffective to Asian collectors whether you’d like to admit it or not.

They will only have success with properties post 2000. Which is exactly why they’ve only attempted to put up characters post 2000 for PO.

You will never get anything before TDK regarding Batman from InArt.

 

[DiostaR]