Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "Driver"

[Hydeous]

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Thats how they charge the sculpts, im assuming. Like for example, he takes bout a month to sculpt head and sells only 30 of it (30 full set). While rainman sells maybe 60-90 of that head? Not too sure bout the quantity of headsculpts that rainman sells, but its more than what kojun sells.

 

[karamazov80]

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'this one time'

Right. . .until the next pet figure for collector X needs a certain accessory not included (see--Vince's briefcase), and Rainman gets pestered for it. That is to say, until the details of the next figure get announced Stepping back for a minute, this is more of the kind of thing that builds in a level of entitlement by collectors IMO. If this happens, people are going to expect that Rainman will capitulate to requests for certain accessories in the future. It's great that fans may get it here, but. . .I just see more negativity in Rainman threads in the future as a result.

Thats how they charge the sculpts, im assuming. Like for example, he takes bout a month to sculpt head and sells only 30 of it (30 full set). While rainman sells maybe 60-90 of that head? Not too sure bout the quantity of headsculpts that rainman sells, but its more than what kojun sells.

Rainman sells 35ish for full/DX sets, 20 for head/outfit sets, then an uncounted number of painted or unpainted heads by themselves. He certainly gets a bigger return on his investment than someone would who only sold 30.

 

[Hydeous]

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Rainman sells 35ish for full/DX sets, 20 for head/outfit sets, then an uncounted number of painted or unpainted heads by themselves. He certainly gets a bigger return on his investment than someone would who only sold 30.

Exactly.

Also, the time put into the paintwork of kojun and lalla's has more manhours compared to rainman's. even lalla mentioned this a while back. Rainman business model have always been seton a certain release date, while kojun and lalla'scustom works have a much looser schedule (at least back then when they were still offering).

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

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Kojun is great artist but I dont think he has that one figure that stands the test of time. Rainman has a few already.

 

[Hydeous]

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Im pretty sure rainman read this thread from time to time, and if its one thing that displease him most is when we are comparing him and fellow artists which are his friends (which is why he normally wouldnt want to do figures already done by other artists).

Im not the biggest Kojun fan, and have complained bout how he shouldnt sculpt any more stark heads and dx12 doesnt look like bale. But i gotta admit he did a few good sculpts, such as whiplash and the current 1/4 batman head (assumin he did the revisions and not someone else).

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

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I'm sure kojun sculpts are very beatiful. Im not able to say ive seen much of his work though, Hottoys signed him pretty quick. Im still in love with his carlito, I think presentation wise it was one if the classiest and he was among one of the very first group of artists to start the movement for the Korean wave of great Talent in the hobby.

 

[PopCultKid]

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Right. . .until the next pet figure for collector X needs a certain accessory not included (see--Vince's briefcase), and Rainman gets pestered for it. That is to say, until the details of the next figure gets announced Stepping back for a minute, this is more of the kind of thing that builds in a level of entitlement by collectors IMO. If this happens, people are going to expect that Rainman will capitulate to requests for certain accessories in the future. It's great that fans may get it here, but. . .I just see more negativity in Rainman threads in the future as a result.

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one my man. There is still something for everyone in this release at all price points. Should he up each package like 2-4 sets more? I'd definitely like to see that on this one. Most of us are used to the prices of each package and we all know what to expect as far as how much he'll include in each package. So what happens when a character is accessory heavy? Should he not tackle it at all? Should he half a$$ and skimp it? Or should he make it all that it should be?

 

[PopCultKid]

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I'm sure kojun sculpts are very beatiful. Im not able to say ive seen much of his work though, Hottoys signed him pretty quick. Im still in love with his carlito, I think presentation wise it was one if the classiest and he was among one of the very first group of artists to start the movement for the Korean wave of great Talent in the hobby.

Unfortunately that Carlito became dated. It was hot stuff at the time (2009 was it?) but now there's an official release from a baby company that I scored for $175 that I can honestly say greatly surpasses Kojun's.

 

[karamazov80]

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The issue I'm talking about isn't whether or not a character warrants more accessories. It's the idea that if people push enough, Rainman will capitulate and give them what they want. It's happened in the past so frequently that people just come to expect it now, and actually establishing a new kind of release just for an extra accessory is only going to further reinforce the idea that it should happen more often. When you guys say "this one time" I couldn't help but chuckle to myself because there's no way this idea doesn't get broached again, particularly if it ends up happening with this figure. I definitely understand the argument that you think this character needs that accessory. But it will happen again and again and again with other figures from fans who want more stuff.

I'm not saying anything negative about people pushing for this stuff. I understand it for sure, and Rainman is the one who allows it or doesn't, so it all falls on him. But I think this is the kind of thing that is at the root of so much conflict in the Rainman threads, and I've felt that way for a long time now.

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

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Kara, Everything that you would need according to your budget will be available too you. Your talking about your own future assumptions. We are trying to deal with the present situation. But again I want to express that Rainman wants his entire customer base to feel satisfied equally as much as his ability will allow him without sacrificing quality or neccesity. More than a good amount of people are interested in seeing this and agree that the gunslide is an extremely important accessory. The only option that may not be availble outside of DX and DXX is the alternate haired sculpt and extra lonley man clothing, but this was already determined as the DX exclusive items already. It is very peaceful in this thread. We understand whats at stake. Please lets Focus on this project not future speculation.

Its his 5th Anniversary, Be Generous and treat yourself.

 

[karamazov80]

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Is the haired sculpt going to be in a head/clothing set? That would best suit my budget and need

I'm not trying to rain on your parade Turbo. I definitely do think this is an important accessory for the look he is obviously focusing on (mohawk). Honestly I think he should have had this on the table to begin with as a full set type item considering that. Mohawk Bickle without the guns he uses in the final scene seems kind of odd.

 

[siquisiri]

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Unfortunately that Carlito became dated. It was hot stuff at the time (2009 was it?) but now there's an official release from a baby company that I scored for $175 that I can honestly say greatly surpasses Kojun's.

Wouldnt the same thing happen if some future company released RM releases like The butcher, Willie Wonka, etc? For example, RM's Chaplin figs brought in some good cash and are great figs, but compared to the Iminime official Chaplin figure (and RM did the sculpt) the older RM Chaplin figs now look dated. For those that have the new Official release Chaplin, its just an amazing figure that is on equal level to any HT ot EB release.

 

[PopCultKid]

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The issue I'm talking about isn't whether or not a character warrants more accessories. It's the idea that if people push enough, Rainman will capitulate and give them what they want. It's happened in the past so frequently that people just come to expect it now, and actually establishing a new kind of release just for an extra accessory is only going to further reinforce the idea that it should happen more often. When you guys say "this one time" I couldn't help but chuckle to myself because there's no way this idea doesn't get broached again, particularly if it ends up happening with this figure. I definitely understand the argument that you think this character needs that accessory. But it will happen again and again and again with other figures from fans who want more stuff.

I'm not saying anything negative about people pushing for this stuff. I understand it for sure, and Rainman is the one who allows it or doesn't, so it all falls on him. But I think this is the kind of thing that is at the root of so much conflict in the Rainman threads, and I've felt that way for a long time now.

You 100% right. When I said "this one time" I was quoting RM. We all know that it'll happen again if necessary. And if it works why shouldn't it happen again where applicable? We walk with a sexier set and he profits a little more. Win-win as I see it .

What would the alternative be? Not speak up so something important like a brief case can't make the cut? That case wasn't included because it wasn't making the cut at that price point. If we were going to ante up, it would've been there. The PF sets are a rare circumstance and I'm still trying to make sense out of WTH happened there. The case made to "the standard" may not have been able to make the cut because the accessory quota was already filled but I still feel that the book could have been done better.

Aside from them I'd say the large majority of his pieces came with 3-5 accessories, which were all the necessities for the character and all fit in his standard build up vs. price plan. Except Dude; he shoulda got a bowling ball. Point is, most characters will fit in his standard price and only need 3-4 essential accessories to be complete. Once in a while a character will come along that needs an extra accessory or two; maybe one that's intricate and hard to produce. I rather give him the money that he needs to make it happen than to see him skimp it or pass on it all together

 

[Ajkhunter]

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I was planning on passing on this, but if Rainman offered the Haired Sculpt in a H&C set then id be down! I love Rainman figures and really enjoyed the film but not enough for DXX,DX,FS prices, hope we can get a H&C set with haired sculpt.

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

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Is the haired sculpt going to be in a head/clothing set? That would best suit my budget and need

I'm not trying to rain on your parade Turbo. I definitely do think this is an important accessory for the look he is obviously focusing on (mohawk). Honestly I think he should have had this on the table to begin with as a full set type item considering that. Mohawk Bickle without the guns he uses in the final scene seems kind of odd.

Kara, its very simple. If you want haired sculpt with extra clothing you are free to purchase the DX. It will all be there for you. If you dont fell like spending that kind of money then their are other options for you, just not what has already been determined as the DX and DXX exclusives.

 

[PopCultKid]

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Wouldnt the same thing happen if some future company released RM releases like The butcher, Willie Wonka, etc? For example, RM's Chaplin figs brought in some good cash and are great figs, but compared to the Iminime official Chaplin figure (and RM did the sculpt) the older RM Chaplin figs now look dated. For those that have the new Official release Chaplin, its just an amazing figure that is on equal level to any HT ot EB release.

Sure, it can totally happen. Carlito and the new Chaplin are prime examples of an official release outdoing it's somewhat dated custom predecessor. But it's not always guaranteed that the official co. can out do the custom. Look at Iminime's Gordon vs. HT's (I'm talking just sculpt)

 

[karamazov80]

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I get your point Pop. And I won't harp on it further, I've made my argument elsewhere long ago, and my observations don't really matter.

hope we can get a H&C set with haired sculpt.

Hear hear. Forget the gun accessory, this is where the real focus of the conversation trying to influence Rainman should go

 

[Ajkhunter]

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I don't want to be a downer but it's pretty much guaranteed that the haired sculpt + gear is only part of the DX's.

ohhhh, damn man, I love the haired look but not enough to go for a DX, might have to pass on this, plus a Mohawk sculpt and outfit without the gun sling and glasses is alil lame.

 

[Ajkhunter]

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"H + C 2:
1 Mohawk headsculpt, bomber jacket, plaid shirt, jeans, belt with silver buckle, 2 guns, cowboy boots, chest piece, holsters."

I am not the biggest fan of the film but does he even wear this outfit with the Mohawk look?

 

[greatlakes6]

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Please help me to understand. If the usual DX set goes for $1000, why would this one go for $1200? What would I be getting for an extra $200?