Rainmans 'Killer A'

[Dark Passenger]

Re: Rainmans New Project: 'No Country Killer'

Why you gotta talk sheeeeeet? That was uncalled for

I should report your *******

Men don't get offended.

 

[eighthsamurai]

Re: Rainmans New Project: 'No Country Killer'

Men don't get offended.

i'm a men. and i'm offended that you don't get offended

 

[Dark Passenger]

Re: Rainmans New Project: 'No Country Killer'

i'm a men. and i'm offended that you don't get offended

The only time I'm ever offended is when men get offended.

 

[DarthMagnus]

Re: Rainmans New Project: 'No Country Killer'

No disrespect to any collectors, but I kinda wish some of the old timers (Day 1) Rainman collectors would chime in a little more. Too many Chiefs and not enough Indians is what I see these days. I'm not singling anyone out either, but I kinda think it's corney to put together a Rainman catalog of figures in half a year and act like an expert. Collections build over time with real reference backing them. I also get peeved at people who are drawn to the films because of his figures! The flavor of the month collector. I'm on the flipside of that coin, The film is my draw to an interesting figure.
If you just popped in this film last week and all of a sudden your a Anton Fan, then your wack!

As far as price is concerned, Well a good determinant of value is if somthing can hold that value. These things hold weight!

Nothing harsh about this statement the truth hurts sometimes, and Turbo called it. All this talk about secondary market and aftermarket value is lame. There's for sure a couple of guys here that talk all this stuff about grails that they will never sell until they get the item and 2weeks later it's for sale, these guys are total stone steppers just chasing whatever figure they think will sell for more later on so they can use it to trade or barter for the next chase. Then they mark it up so someone who actually is a fan is willing to pay the overpriced tag because they are legite sincere fans of the character or rainmanart.

Some of the main reasons this forum isnt as fun as it used to be. On another note if you look at the Interest section alone its so over bloated with custom headsculpt interest threads I feel like this hobby is gonna bottom out. I'm so lost in there! The passion and love for a seeing a project come to life has turned into a fest of who can get what made and in the fastest amount of time. I'm all for seeing the good work and everything but if I'm being honest with myself I don't feel the draw like when we used to see something special pop up out of nowhere. Might just be me. Commence FLAMES!

 

[alexi.volk]

Re: Rainmans New Project: 'No Country Killer'

i'm not really sure what the fight is about. i know i havent been in this forum very long or been an avid collector of customs forever. the first rainman piece i became aware of was his Samurai Champloo Mugen back in like 2004 but i wsnt able to chase one down as they were super super limited.
i also feel that rainman is a true artist and i have no qualms with his pricepoint. either at cost or on the resale market--save when its obviously a quick flip job.
i dont get into movies based on figures (at least not yet). nor do i buy all figures from movies i do love. but i am a huge movie fan and have hundreds of films and movie posters and screenplays and other scaled toys and comic books, and on.
i do see turbo's point--though as in what i'm coming to understand as gruff turbo-speak--in that it seems at the moment like the value of rainman's work has been discovered solely on the name attached to it and that no longer does the avid movie fan and collector have safe passage to the figures they love which is a bit scary, especially in light of the recent surge of 'flipping' that has been going on on these boards and on ebay.
i dont know that it's totally unwarranted--the attention rainman is getting--as that tends to be what happens to really talented artists who get lucky and are able to find great recognition. it is, however, scary and sad for the longtime fan who now has to struggle to grab the pieces they want.
at least i think that's what turbo was getting at. let me know if i'm wrong.

 

[dragonsleeper]

Re: Rainmans New Project: 'No Country Killer'

Hmmm...is this gonna be in the 700s?

 

[MarfMaster]

Re: Rainmans New Project: 'No Country Killer'

On another note if you look at the Interest section alone its so over bloated with custom headsculpt interest threads I feel like this hobby is gonna bottom out. I'm so lost in there! The passion and love for a seeing a project come to life has turned into a fest of who can get what made and in the fastest amount of time. I'm all for seeing the good work and everything but if I'm being honest with myself I don't feel the draw like when we used to see something special pop up out of nowhere. Might just be me. Commence FLAMES!

I agree DM, that's why I prefer to focus my time, energy and resources on slowly assembling, improving on, or acquiring only (what I see as) perfect representations of my absolute favorite television and film characters. But hey, everyone has different collecting habits/views.

I have to ask your opinion though (and everyone commenting on market value), what's your take on this scenario? Say I want to sell my Rainman Dude figure (not going to happen)...I've had him since release, quite some time now, and in that time he has gone for several thousand dollars. If I needed to sell him for whatever reason (my interests have changed, I need the money etc.), would I be expected to ignore his apparent market value, and sell him at his original price tag, to avoid being considered a 'flipper?'

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Re: Rainmans New Project: 'No Country Killer'

I was a little puzzled that this particular rainman thread had not gone this way yet. 'Bout time.

 

[alexi.volk]

Re: Rainmans New Project: 'No Country Killer'

i dont think the term flipper is so easily described. and thinking about it i also believe that people need to give room to the first person trying to sell a figure on the secondary market for a perceived 'value' price.
i think the term flipper was being used for people who only purchased a figure which just shipped within the last month and are asking 3x the cover value.
and yes i understand that personal issues arise and things unforseen and tragic or positive which command our attention away from this hobby--but in such a case, maybe holding an auction would be best. that way the seller doesnt have to suffer the wrath of angry collectors by naming a steep price and the customers can go as high as they want. i dont know. just an idea.
look really i think anyone can try to sell anything for whatever they deem its worth and hopefully whoever buys it has a similar sense of its value (both financially and more importantly, personally).

If I needed to sell him for whatever reason (my interests have changed, I need the money etc.), would I be expected to ignore his apparent market value, and sell him at his original price tag, to avoid being considered a 'flipper?'

 

[transhi100]

Re: Rainmans New Project: 'No Country Killer'

Not sure why but I'm finding this latest debate/argument quite hilarious.

 

[skooternb]

Re: Rainmans New Project: 'No Country Killer'

I agree DM, that's why I prefer to focus my time, energy and resources on slowly assembling, improving on, or acquiring only (what I see as) perfect representations of my absolute favorite television and film characters. But hey, everyone has different collecting habits/views.

I have to ask your opinion though (and everyone commenting on market value), what's your take on this scenario? Say I want to sell my Rainman Dude figure (not going to happen)...I've had him since release, quite some time now, and in that time he has gone for several thousand dollars. If I needed to sell him for whatever reason (my interests have changed, I need the money etc.), would I be expected to ignore his apparent market value, and sell him at his original price tag, to avoid being considered a 'flipper?'

I completely agree with you. There are some 'mass produced' pieces that I collect, and then there are my own bashes and some choice customs.

As for flipping, it really is about making money. If your intention to buy the Dude was for the enjoyment, and you sell the piece it is your own prerogative. Granted, something is worth what someone is willing to pay, and that is the market value. The people listing items for 3x the initial cost might not see anyone buy it, and will have the pieces sitting or will have to decrease the asking price. If you see a Dude sell for 2k last month, you are more than welcome to list it for 2k, or 1k, or 3k... it just might not sell at certain prices. It comes down to someone being realistic. Now you could even not be considered a flipper if you buy the piece because that is what you really wanted, and if something comes up where you need to sell it immediately, you would hopefully list it for a realistic price, as, to be honest, the only gauge for price in such a quick sale would be the initial retail price.

 

[skooternb]

Not sure why but I'm finding this latest debate/argument quite hilarious.

I think it is bringing up good topics, but it definitely seems to be a discussion of who is worthy.

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[armysoldier74b]

Re: Rainmans New Project: 'No Country Killer'

I agree DM, that's why I prefer to focus my time, energy and resources on slowly assembling, improving on, or acquiring only (what I see as) perfect representations of my absolute favorite television and film characters. But hey, everyone has different collecting habits/views.

I have to ask your opinion though (and everyone commenting on market value), what's your take on this scenario? Say I want to sell my Rainman Dude figure (not going to happen)...I've had him since release, quite some time now, and in that time he has gone for several thousand dollars. If I needed to sell him for whatever reason (my interests have changed, I need the money etc.), would I be expected to ignore his apparent market value, and sell him at his original price tag, to avoid being considered a 'flipper?'

Here is my take.

I think as long as you sell your figure at the fair market value the community will not come down on you and label you a flipper.
Now those buying figures and selling them a few weeks later for a profit can be considered a flipper IMO.

A board member on here recently sold a Bill the Butcher Head and Clothing Set for less than market value and a lot of the reaction on his thread was that he could have sold it for more.

For all those hating on the new collectors. It is us new collectors of the 1/6th world that are driving these prices up in the first place. Getting our hands on figures we missed out on is not cheap and the only way to acquire them is by throwing some serious capital down for them. Once the transaction is complete that figure now has a new standard or market value according to the community. The Dude was sold for 2k and OG collectors were applauding it as the new market value.

So for the haters out there, be happy with your collection and your intentions, and I'll be happy with mine. I don't want to hear you say in one sentence that you collect for the passion and I should follow some ethical code of conduct and then on another sentence, in another thread, that your trying to protect your investment.

Stop perpetrating!

 

[armysoldier74b]

Re: Rainmans New Project: 'No Country Killer'

And may I say thank you! You might see my brother out there

Sorry for the late post, but had to dig for this picture.

Last time I took my boots off

Tell your Bro to stay safe out there

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

Re: Rainmans New Project: 'No Country Killer'

No Country for Old Men: opening monologue

“I was sheriff of this county when I was 25 years old. Hard to believe. My grandfather was a lawman. Father too. Me and him was sheriffs at the same time, him up in Plano and me out here. I think he’s pretty proud of that. I know I was.

“Some of the old-time sheriffs never even wore a gun. A lot of folks find that hard to believe. Jim Scarborough never carried one. That’s the younger Jim. Gaston Boykins wouldn’t wear one up in Comanche County.

“I always liked to hear about the old-timers. Never missed a chance to do so. You can’t help but compare yourself against the old-timers. Can’t help but wonder how they’d have operated these times.

“There’s this boy I sent to the electric chair at Huntsville here a while back. My arrest
and my testimony. He killed a 14-year-old girl. Paper said it was a crime of passion,
but he told me there wasn’t any passion to it. Told me he’d been planning to kill somebody for about as long as he could remember. Said if they turned him out, he’d
do it again. Said he knew he was going to hell. Be there in about 15 minutes.

“I don’t know what to make of that. I surely don’t. The crime you see now, it’s hard to even take its measure. It’s not that I’m afraid of it. I always knew you had to be
willing to die to even do this job. But I don’t want to push my chips forward and go out and meet something I don’t understand. A man would have to put his soul at hazard. He’d have to say, ‘OK. I’ll be part of this world.’”

— Sheriff Ed Tom Bell

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

Re: Rainmans New Project: 'No Country Killer'

THE BOOGEYMAN

Thank You Rainman.

 

[MarfMaster]

Re: Rainmans New Project: 'No Country Killer'

Here is my take.

I think as long as you sell your figure at the fair market value the community will not come down on you and label you a flipper.
Now those buying figures and selling them a few weeks later for a profit can be considered a flipper IMO.

A board member on here recently sold a Bill the Butcher Head and Clothing Set for less than market value and a lot of the reaction on his thread was that he could have sold it for more.

For all those hating on the new collectors. It is us new collectors of the 1/6th world that are driving these prices up in the first place. Getting our hands on figures we missed out on is not cheap and the only way to acquire them is by throwing some serious capital down for them. Once the transaction is complete that figure now has a new standard or market value according to the community. The Dude was sold for 2k and OG collectors were applauding it as the new market value.

So for the haters out there, be happy with your collection and your intentions, and I'll be happy with mine. I don't want to hear you say in one sentence that you collect for the passion and I should follow some ethical code of conduct and then on another sentence, in another thread, that your trying to protect your investment.

Stop perpetrating!

Did you interpret something I said as hating? Maybe I'm misreading, not sure. No hate here for new collectors!

 

[sparkstron73]

Re: Rainmans New Project: 'No Country Killer'

I need to see this film, from the toin coss scene I'm sold

Won't be buying this figure as the money is too much for me.
Might be interested in picking up a brother's production custom, for a fair price, if anyones selling nearer christmas time

I have been meaning to watch this film for ages and have a copy on dvd, but misplaced it and refuse to pay another 4 pound as I am a tight arse

Now as for people collecting for the sake of collecting a figure, because it is the latest collectable, or for an investment.
I don't like it but thats your buisness.
I'll only get a figure, or make it, if I love the film, so I'll have to wait and see with this one but like what I've seen and hav'nt been dissapointed with the cohen brothers films I've seen so far.
Have watched, fargo, lebowski and o brother and even have the soundtrack to the last 2 mentioned so there
Love lebowski but not 2 grands much and that's just like my opinion man.

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

Re: Rainmans New Project: 'No Country Killer'

It's interesting to note that some of the characters inspired were based on real people, including Charles Harrelson who was a ferocious contract killer and American organized crime figure convicted of assassinating a federal judge, the first federal judge killed in the 20th century, and that contract killer was actor Woody Harrelson's dad. I thought Woody's performance was eerily genuine as well.

 

[Erik S]

Re: Rainmans New Project: 'No Country Killer'

Here is my take.

I think as long as you sell your figure at the fair market value the community will not come down on you and label you a flipper.
Now those buying figures and selling them a few weeks later for a profit can be considered a flipper IMO.

A board member on here recently sold a Bill the Butcher Head and Clothing Set for less than market value and a lot of the reaction on his thread was that he could have sold it for more.

For all those hating on the new collectors. It is us new collectors of the 1/6th world that are driving these prices up in the first place. Getting our hands on figures we missed out on is not cheap and the only way to acquire them is by throwing some serious capital down for them. Once the transaction is complete that figure now has a new standard or market value according to the community. The Dude was sold for 2k and OG collectors were applauding it as the new market value.

So for the haters out there, be happy with your collection and your intentions, and I'll be happy with mine. I don't want to hear you say in one sentence that you collect for the passion and I should follow some ethical code of conduct and then on another sentence, in another thread, that your trying to protect your investment.

Stop perpetrating!

Market value. You don't know what you are talking about. Values are not set they are determined. Its based on what someone is willing to pay for it. Its not a set price.

You will eventually get burned. Not allot of people are willing to spend $1000+ on a figure. And your are going to find yourself stuck with an expensive figure that you cant get rid of.

Also, Rainman and Petersen, Spencer will all raise there prices to comply with the new Market value. There not stupid. So stop talking about market value, $800 a figure is expensive enough. I don't want to pay $1500.

Try selling toys that have a lower price point, the return is greater.