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Why are you so salty against Harrigan? Are you a racist? You're a racist aren't you?

The Predator is black, and Carl Weathers/Dillon > Glover....hell, his intro alone is more iconic than the entire P2 film :lol



How did he use the jungle as a weapon? He literally does the exact same thing in the jungle as he does in the city.
The environment plays a role in the movie because of the characters' psyche, not because of the Predator, it also play a part in city in a different way, again, unrelated to the Predator, the Predator is supposed to be adaptable.
For the sake of being different? The city is literally called the concrete jungle, how is that not the next logical step? For the sake of being different, that's what Predators did.

It's more of a tool...but he uses the trees to his advantage and he blends with the environment like a lizard which makes sense, considering the design of the character and because he's a hunter. He also knows the jungle better than Arnie and his guys which gives him a strategical advantage over the military crew. The whole film takes place in an unfamiliar place where the main characters are trapped. A Predator running around in a building and in a subway is so out of character that it's laughable. Just because he's adaptable, it doesn't mean that he should be in a city...even if the name of the city is "concrete Jungle."



More memorable doesn't = better, and I do agree the P1 crew is cooler, for sure, but again, nothing to sneeze at, certainly not comparing it to the Predators crew.

Yes it...at least in this case it is, because each character is memorable and they're not overshadowed by Arnold. Even you admit that the crew from P2 is not as good.


The dynamic of the supporting cast is just as rich, if not more, it's just more subtle, you may have missed it.

So subtle it's forgettable, but Blades and Glover had good chemistry...still, are they so good that I want to see them in another film together? Probably not, but I wouldn't mind seeing the P1 crew in another mission.



Harrigan is the complete opposite from Murtaugh.

Yeah Arnold is more memorable, he's Arnold! But Harrigan was definitely a better character.

How is he a better character? How is he different than any other cop in other films? What's so special about him?


Why are you low balling LA in P2? Have you seen a more ****ed up city that isn't a conflict zone?

Detroit from Robocop. The city was so bad and corrupt, they had to build dangerous Robots to fight crime, and once again, Robocop is better than Glover. Also New York in The Warriors.

Really? Bill Paxton is not memorable? :lol

All I remember is him getting his balls squeezed, wearing an ugly suit, and his nickname was LoneStar or ...something like that. :lol

How familiar are you with guerrillas? Maybe some of them have training, the heads, the rest of them are uneducated poor people who get drafted via brain washing/propaganda, etc etc.

And the cartels, they literally draft ex-military.

Now the P2 thugs are ex-military guys? You have given them a better background in your mind than what the actual film gives us in the story :lol Maybe someone should have mentioned that at some point in the film.


Really, being different for the sake of being different, that's very unlike the concept of SUPER PREDATORS :lol Predators is ok, it's tolerable in the standards of the AVP movies, it is very much below P2.

I know RT doesn't mean much, but since it's all subjective, Predators has a 64% and P2 a 25%, so I'm not alone when I say that P2 is way below than P1. I do think 64% for Predators is too high though.
 
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The Predator is black, and Carl Weathers/Dillon > Glover....
It was a joke :lol

It's more of a tool...but he uses the trees to his advantage and he blends with the environment like a lizard which makes sense, considering the design of the character and because he's a hunter. He also knows the jungle better than Arnie and his guys which gives him a strategical advantage over the military crew. The whole film takes place in an unfamiliar place where the main characters are trapped. A Predator running around in a building and in a subway is so out of character that it's laughable. Just because he's adaptable, it doesn't mean that he should be in a city...even if the name of the city is "concrete Jungle."
Again, how is it a tool? In what way does he use the trees? To climb? He has no problem climbing walls, to camouflage? He is literally invisible regardless of environment.

Precisely because he is adaptable he should be in a city, that's the whole point of the Predator, the challenge.

Yes it...at least in this case it is, because each character is memorable and they're not overshadowed by Arnold. Even you admit that the crew from P2 is not as good.
No it doesn't, and I didn't say it was good, I said it was cooler, as far as characterization goes, the P2 crew is just as good.

So subtle it's forgettable, but Blades and Glover had good chemistry...still, are they so good that I want to see them in another film together? Probably not, but I wouldn't mind seeing the P1 crew in another mission.
But that's on you, I have no problem picking up their rich dynamic, and I wouldn't mind seeing more of Jerry being Jerry and Harrigan being Harrigan.

How is he a better character? How is he different than any other cop in other films? What's so special about him?
I didn't say different, he isn't original, neither is Arnold, but he IS a better character than Dutch, he has more and more interesting personality traits than Dutch.

Detroit from Robocop. The city was so bad and corrupt, they had to build dangerous Robots to fight crime, and once again, Robocop is better than Glover. Also New York in The Warriors.
I meant in real life :lol

LA in P2 is but a notch below RC's Detroit, many notches above Warrior's New York, and a notch above P1 Puerto Vallarta :lol

All I remember is him getting his balls squeezed, wearing an ugly suit, and his nickname was LoneStar or ...something like that. :lol
But that's on you, if you didn't pick it up it's not the films' fault, not everything has to be over the top, the movie had enough over the top as it is.

Now the P2 thugs are ex-military guys? You have given them a better background in your mind than what the actual film gives us in the story :lol Maybe someone should have mentioned that at some point in the film.
But, it's not my mind, it's a well known fact cartels draft ex-military since forever and that most guerrillas are just uneducated villagers running around with outdated weapons :dunno:

I know RT doesn't mean much, but since it's all subjective, Predators has a 64% and P2 a 25%.
Holy **** that is true, wtf? That is retarded. How? Jesus.
 
It was a joke :lol

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Again, how is it a tool? In what way does he use the trees? To climb? He has no problem climbing walls, to camouflage? He is literally invisible regardless of environment.

Precisely because he is adaptable he should be in a city, that's the whole point of the Predator, the challenge.

Climbing buildings? Who is he Spiderman? :lol He's a hunter...that's the whole point of the character, it's not about a challenge. He could have killed Glover plenty of time because he's invisible. If it was about a challenge, he wouldn't be invisible when he kills people. In the entire galaxy, he looks for a cop in LA as a challenge? Come on.


No it doesn't, and I didn't say it was good, I said it was cooler, as far as characterization goes, the P2 crew is just as good.

You are not serious. No, not in a million years. Glover's crew is just not as good....they're not even around long enough to be memorable.

But that's on you, I have no problem picking up their rich dynamic, and I wouldn't mind seeing more of Jerry being Jerry and Harrigan being Harrigan.

Their rich dynamic? WTF does that even mean? They had like 4 scenes together...and not a single one is memorable, it just moves the story forward and they are fine, but you want to see them in a buddy cop film? Wut?


I didn't say different, he isn't original, neither is Arnold, but he IS a better character than Dutch, he has more and more interesting personality traits than Dutch.

Like what? His excessive sweating and scared ********* face? :lol


But that's on you, if you didn't pick it up it's not the films' fault, not everything has to be over the top, the movie had enough over the top as it is.

It's a film's job to offer the audience compelling, memorable characters, and P1 is far superior in that area and it has a larger cast. What was so over the top about P1? Besides the epic hand shake, the rest was a well written group of characters.

But, it's not my mind, it's a well known fact cartels draft ex-military since forever and that most guerrillas are just uneducated villagers running around with outdated weapons :dunno:

Come on, not every guerrilla group is like that, just like not every cartel group uses ex military guys.


Holy **** that is true, wtf? That is retarded. How? Jesus.

25% is too low, but I'm not surprised.

Let me ask you a random question that has nothing to do with P2. Who wins in a fight, Goku or Superman? I just want to see if we agree on this one. :lol
 
They took them off Netflix? The whole series up to five was on there forever. I still need to see Creed myself but I keep procrastinating.
Just checked instantwatcher.com and no Rocky movies are showing up. They usually rotate every few months between Netflix, Amazon and cable just like the Bond and old Star Trek movies so maybe April or May they'll be back.
 
My favorite Rocky. Love the training montage. And it came out at the right time. USA vs USSR.

It's definitely my favorite after the first two. And yeah, the training montage is arguably the best one of the series. I love the whole nature vs. nurture aspect in their training methods. I think my only problem with the film is Rocky not looking more messed up at the end from taking a pile driver to the face for 15 rounds :lol

Just checked instantwatcher.com and no Rocky movies are showing up. They usually rotate every few months between Netflix, Amazon and cable just like the Bond and old Star Trek movies so maybe April or May they'll be back.

They'll probably be back up at some point. Have you seen any of them?
 
Rocky IV is definitely my favorite after the first two. I haven't seen Creed yet so I'm not sure how it'll measure up. I've heard it was good though.
 
It's definitely my favorite after the first two. And yeah, the training montage is arguably the best one of the series. I love the whole nature vs. nurture aspect in their training methods. I think my only problem with the film is Rocky not looking more messed up at the end from taking a pile driver to the face for 15 rounds[emoji38]


They'll probably be back up at some point. Have you seen any of them?
I've seen 1,3, and 4 in a few times. The others I fell asleep on.
 
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