if they can fight perfectly at 100G, I have no problem believing current Goku could benchpress the earth.
That's what I said
Some of those traits are so generic, no wonder why he's not a memorable character at all. So I asked what was so over the top about P1's character dynamic compared to P2? The only difference between the two casts, is that one is memorable and quotable, and the P2 is forgettable...seriously, ask anyone about P2'S cast...there's nothing they can say about them. I think most people and Predator fans want to know more about their history, culture, and civilization...that's the next logical step, not gives up a mediocre sequel with a similar looking predator in a new setting, making it a less effective copy of the first film.
That and time traveling by reversing the rotation of the earth
Oh yeah, 450G, damn, that's ****ing crazy, one would pass out at like 7/8 G, and these guys ****ing fight in 450G
Yeah, gravity training was awesome.
Yet you never managed to tell me how the Pred being in the city is any different AT ALL from being in the jungle.
you can't be serious, you must know this is a very easy argument to prove wrong so you must be trolling. Why do you always end up trolling? Can't you disscuss nice? It's absurd and ridiculous. But nothing wrong with it.There is plenty wrong with a Predator in someone's bathroom...in some building
You missed it, it's alright, you're not willing to give it a chance, no big deal.
Then you are wrong, again.
It does, it really does.None of that makes him a better character
That wasn't my initial point at all, dude, you always twist arguments with your misunderstandings, I said it was subtle and that's why YOU MISSED IT.Actually, that was your initial point, that P2's character dynamic was so subtle and not over the top that it's the reason it's not as memorable as P1, but I guess you changed your mind again
You do know cartels and guerrillas exist in real life right?
That's not the next logical step, that's the fanfic way of thinkingThe reason AVP sucks has nothing to do with us knowing more about the Predator civilization.
It is, in fact.The only thing interesting about P2 is when Glover goes in the ship and we see the Alien skull among the other trophies and we learn that they have been around for a long time, but instead of exploring all those options, we get a monster in a city instead of the jungle...yeah, very creative.
You haven't seen much then.
Yet you never managed to tell me how the Pred being in the city is any different AT ALL from being in the jungle.
Busey was a better trophy? What are you trying to do?
There are plenty of subtle moments in P1, and yet not only are the characters more memorable, they are better too, unlike P2. That's not the next logical step, that's the fanfic way of thinking
And they don't need to explore those options, leave that **** to us, you're really used to being spoon fed aren't you?
Spoon fed? You want the same formula over and over again. It has nothing to do with being spoon fed, and more to do with exploring a whole different world, race, and history, but you just want a less effective carbon copy of the first film in a city Boring...which is why the film is forgettable and no one gives a **** about it. What's your ideal Predator 3? Let me use my imagination and guess....Alien in a new city chasing new guy who has a fear of female private parts...so it will pay off when the Predator takes off his mask and he can re use the "your're one ugly" line from P1 because the writers couldn't come up with something new and original 
But it isn't wrong, and you failed to prove otherwise. And no I saw P1 first.
I give up. And that's why it's wrong, thank you
Jesus. I can, but I'm not gonna spoon feed you any longer, like I said if you missed it, it's ok, no big deal.
You have, twice, and I've pointed out both times.
Okay, different AND better.
But it wasn't, I said the interactions between the P2 crew was more subdued and it didn't need to be over the top because the movie had plenty over the top already, then you literally asked what's so over the top about P1, not about the crew, if you meant about the P1 crew, I already gave you my answer.But that's what we were talking about, the crew, which is what P1 is mostly about, a group of soldiers in a jungle.
What's mediocre about it? Does good writing = quotable? I remember a couple of bad one liners that are equally quotable but I won't bag on P1 for it.
And the guerrillas did
If by the "imagining" things you mean the guerrilla and cartels again, I thought it was pretty clear that I'm going by what is very widely known, and you were going by what you didn't know, that is imagining.Oh, you have no problems imagining things...you have proved that
Fair enough, but why would you want to go by the lowest common denominator when talking about a 75 year spanning character? You take the defining the highest one, the one it's praised for.
take this one, we're just not seeing eye to eye on this one.
But it isn't wrong, and you failed to prove otherwise. And no I saw P1 first.
You don't like the city, that's all well and good, but there's nothing inherently wrong about that setting for the predator.
[emoji38]I give up.
[emoji38]Jesus.
I can, but I'm not gonna spoon feed you any longer, like I said if you missed it, it's ok, no big deal.
You have, twice, and I've pointed out both times.
Okay, different AND better.
But it wasn't, I said the interactions between the P2 crew was more subdued and it didn't need to be over the top because the movie had plenty over the top already, then you literally asked what's so over the top about P1, not about the crew, if you meant about the P1 crew, I already gave you my answer.
What's mediocre about it? Does good writing = quotable? I remember a couple of bad one liners that are equally quotable but I won't bag on P1 for it.
And there are plenty quotes. But at this point you just won't see eye to eye.
And the guerrillas did[emoji38]
If by the "imagining" things you mean the guerrilla and cartels again, I thought it was pretty clear that I'm going by what is very widely known, and you were going by what you didn't know, that is imagining.
Carbon copy? And you have no problem with Predators? Predators is a carbon copy, Predator 2 may use the same formula but it at least mixed things up.
Why are you getting so sassy?[emoji38]
Fair enough, but why would you want to go by the lowest common denominator when talking about a 75 year spanning character? You take the defining the highest one, the one it's praised for.
DBZ may be more consistent, but Goku is still pretty 2Dimensional when compared to Superman, as well as the vast majority of the rest of the DB characters.
Red Son Superman is pretty much Superman character-wise, and All-Star is Silver Age condensed into one book.
Look man, no offense but I give up[emoji38]take this one, we're just not seeing eye to eye on this one.
This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an unmovable object.If I have to explain why a Predator in a city is just plain wrong, then...you either saw P2 before you ever saw P1, or you just don't get it.
Busey not only knew about the Predator before Glover, he was hunting him, he went toe to toe with him and even after getting burned, he kept fighting and coming back. That's P1 worthy right there...keep your "super" ...average cop.
And that's why it's wrong, thank you
Give me a meaningful moment with the two of them...go ahead.
Haven't been wrong yet though...my whole point is that P1 is significantly superior to P2, which it is.
Makes him different than Dutch, but not better. Big difference.
But that's what we were talking about, the crew, which is what P1 is mostly about, a group of soldiers in a jungle.
The fact there's nothing quotable about the film...it has less to do with my lack of memory and more to do with mediocre writing. How often do you see people quoting P2?
They didn't seem very skilled at all.
Oh, you have no problems imagining things...you have proved that[emoji38]Spoon fed? You want the same formula over and over again. It has nothing to do with being spoon fed, and more to do with exploring a whole different world, race, and history, but you just want a less effective carbon copy of the first film in a city[emoji38]Boring...which is why the film is forgettable and no one gives a **** about it. What's your ideal Predator 3? Let me use my imagination and guess....Alien in a new city chasing new guy who has a fear of female private parts...so it will pay off when the Predator takes off his mask and he can re use the "your're one ugly" line from P1 because the writers couldn't come up with something new and original [emoji38]
I've seen enough, but one of the advantages DBZ has over Superman, is that there's mostly one consistent canon, whereas Superman, it's all over the place, which has some benefits too, but that lack of consistency makes him less interesting overall, because there are many different versions of the character, and they end up being different characters. So for example, Superman from Red Son can be interesting, but that's not really Superman...or the version from All Star is interesting, but again, it's just a different version.
And the guerrillas did
We never saw them in action, so no way to know. Why are you getting so sassy?
Fair enough, but why would you want to go by the lowest common denominator when talking about a 75 year spanning character? You take the defining the highest one, the one it's praised for.
DBZ may be more consistent, but Goku is still pretty 2Dimensional when compared to Superman, as well as the vast majority of the rest of the DB characters.
Red Son Superman is pretty much Superman character-wise, and All-Star is Silver Age condensed into one book.
Look man, no offense but I give up
