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The Nice Guys: 7/10

A fun buddy cop like movie (though neither character was a cop). But nothing mind blowing. Will see just about anything Shane Black does, though.
 
Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation (2015) 7.5/10

Pretty good flick. The villain is ten times better than the one in Ghost Protocol and Rebecca Ferguson is great in her role but overall I think this one wasn't as compelling as the others. The performances from the returning cast members were kind of phoned in and there were some very predictable plot twists. I still had a good time with this one but I'm not sure I'll watch it again.
 
My wife didn't think much of Man of Steel...I really liked it though. Probably a 7.5.
 
Captain America: Civil War

Exciting, dynamic and riding at high stakes, this is genuinely some of the most thoroughly entertaining superhero movies in a long time. As a hardcore DC fan, I'm green with envy that they could make such a great film while we got our truly abysmal Batman V Superman.

4/5.
 
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude.... :lol

It's a very good film. It's too bad so many people got caught up in the same herd mentality when it came out...maybe too many Marvel films had something to do with it, who knows? I think in 10 or 20 years, future critics will see the film as a good Superman origin and a very good Superman film, because it is very good.
 
It's a very good film. It's too bad so many people got caught up in the same herd mentality when it came out...maybe too many Marvel films had something to do with it, who knows? I think in 10 or 20 years, future critics will see the film as a good Superman origin and a very good Superman film, because it is very good.

I mean I won't lie, I didn't like it either, but as a fan of Superman Returns, I can't help but respect your opinion on MOS. we have it rough out here :lol
 
It's a very good film. It's too bad so many people got caught up in the same herd mentality when it came out...maybe too many Marvel films had something to do with it, who knows? I think in 10 or 20 years, future critics will see the film as a good Superman origin and a very good Superman film, because it is very good.

Post-BVS I respect it more for being its own self-contained film at least. I don't really like it as an origin story for Superman though.

And although Williams' theme remains king I do love what Zimmer created aswell, been listening to it the past few nights.
 
I mean I won't lie, I didn't like it either, but as a fan of Superman Returns, I can't help but respect your opinion on MOS. we have it rough out here :lol

There are only two things I don't like, the tornado scene because it's dumb, and Zod getting beat up by Jor El. You can't have the main villain getting beat up so early, especially by a scientist. To make it worse, it was pointless because Zod killed Jor El anyways, so why not just have Zod get the clean win, thus making him look strong? Sorry for the wrestling terminology :lol

Other than that, I really like the film. Still, it doesn't come close to my ideal Superman film, which is a mixture of the 78 and 2013 films.


Post-BVS I respect it more for being its own self-contained film at least. I don't really like it as an origin story for Superman though.

And although Williams' theme remains king I do love what Zimmer created aswell, been listening to it the past few nights.

Yeah, the Williams theme will always be Superman's song as far popularity and pop culture goes, but I don't think it fits in MOS...or BVS.
 
There are only two things I don't like, the tornado scene because it's dumb, and Zod getting beat up by Jor El. You can't have the main villain getting beat up so early, especially by a scientist. To make it worse, it was pointless because Zod killed Jor El anyways, so why not just have Zod get the clean win, thus making him look strong? Sorry for the wrestling terminology :lol

Other than that, I really like the film. Still, it doesn't come close to my ideal Superman film, which is a mixture of the 78 and 2013

Yea, I have the same problems and a whole lot more :lol

I didn't like how cliche and in your face Clark's history was, a lot of it felt way too forced to try and make us feel bad for Clark. The bar scene, every childhood scene, the tornado scene, all of it just felt very forced.

I thought outside of Clark and Zod, every character was extremely dull. Amy Adams especially was terrible in my opinion. I really hated how forced into the story her character was. Scenes like her being on the plane that explodes but for some reason she gets blown out and Superman catches her just in time so they could have a really forced kiss like right on ground zero of the destruction, or seeing Superman and Zod land and she somehow gets to the bank just in time to see Superman kill Zod so she can console him after he does that same drop to your knees angry scream that we see in most movies.

I actually hated the action, for me, it was really generic stuff, an overreaction to the lack of action in Superman Returns. All of that action and I don't think there's one iconic action scene in the movie.

There was a lot of great ideas, I love how it showed the dichotomy between his fathers and the affect it had on him but so many of the interesting concepts just went in a really cliche generic direction in my opinion.

My biggest problem was that the movie was set in a grounded world, but the movie kept all of the superhero tropes we see in every MCU movie outside of the jokes. I do like how it felt like a real standalone though, it's one of the last superhero movies that seemed more focus on the current story than setting up the next one.
 
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Yea, I have the same problems and a whole lot more :lol

I didn't like how cliche and in your face Clark's history was, a lot of it felt way too forced to try and make us feel bad for Clark. The bar scene, every childhood scene, the tornado scene, all of it just felt very forced.

I thought outside of Clark and Zod, every character was extremely dull. Amy Adams especially was terrible in my opinion. I really hated how forced into the story her character was. Scenes like her being on the plane that explodes but for some reason she gets blown out and Superman catches her just in time so they could have a really forced kiss like right on ground zero of the destruction, or seeing Superman and Zod land and she somehow gets to the bank just in time to see Superman kill Zod so she can console him after he does that same drop to your knees angry scream that we see in most movies.

I actually hated the action, for me, it was really generic stuff, an overreaction to the lack of action in Superman Returns. All of that action and I don't think there's one iconic action scene in the movie.

There was a lot of great ideas, I love how it showed the dichotomy of his fathers and the affect it had on him but so many of the interesting concepts just went in a really cliche generic direction in my opinion.

My biggest problem was that the movie was set in a grounded world, but the movie kept all of the superhero tropes we see in every MCU movie outside of the jokes. I do like how it felt like a real standalone though, it's one of the last superhero movies that seemed more focus on the current story than setting up the next one.

I don't necessary agree with most of that, but I get how some of those scenes could be a problem for some people. Pa Kent became a bit repetitive with his "your going to change the world one day" gimmick, but Ii do like the most of his scenes and I thought they were appropriate, especially the one with him looking at Clark with the cape. Those scenes worked better than his mountain scene in BVS, imo. I do agree that there's really nothing iconic, but I think I can say the same about most of Snyder films, including BVS.

The only iconic thing I can think of in a Snyder film is the 300 "This is Sparta" scene. Other than that, everything else is nice looking but not memorable within the context of the story. Even BVS didn't have anything iconic, imo. The only thing that comes close is the BVS stare down and Batman's armor, but that's because it was part of the marketing and it's a direct adaptation of a famous book that's been around for so long.

It's ironic that a director that's so famous for his visuals can't make anything that's truly iconic, original or memorable with such famous characters like Batman and Superman. Even the trinity shot in BVS was underwhelming and forgettable. :dunno
 
I don't necessary agree with most of that, but I get how some of those scenes could be a problem for some people. Pa Kent became a bit repetitive with his "your going to change the world one day" gimmick, but Ii do like the most of his scenes and I thought they were appropriate, especially the one with him looking at Clark with the cape. Those scenes worked better than his mountain scene in BVS, imo. I do agree that there's really nothing iconic, but I think I can say the same about most of Snyder films, including BVS.

The only iconic thing I can think of in a Snyder film is the 300 "This is Sparta" scene. Other than that, everything else is nice looking but not memorable within the context of the story. Even BVS didn't have anything iconic, imo. The only thing that comes close is the BVS stare down and Batman's armor, but that's because it was part of the marketing and it's a direct adaptation of a famous book that's been around for so long.

It's ironic that a director that's so famous for his visuals can't make anything that's truly iconic, original or memorable with such famous characters like Batman and Superman. Even the trinity shot in BVS was underwhelming and forgettable. :dunno

Does the Martha thing count as iconic?

Yea, I actually enjoyed BvS more than MOS but I recognize its way worse. MOS really is a masterpiece compared to BvS and SS.

Has there been anything truly iconic to come from the DCEU yet? Maybe Wonder Woman's theme?
 
Does the Martha thing count as iconic?

Yea, I actually enjoyed BvS more than MOS but I recognize its way worse. MOS really is a masterpiece compared to BvS and SS.

Has there been anything truly iconic to come from the DCEU yet? Maybe Wonder Woman's theme?

You know what...I think that's iconic...maybe for the wrong reason, because it has become such a joke, but it's still iconic and maybe the most memorable thing about BVS. I forgot about it.

Other than the Martha scene, I can't think anything else. Time will tell. Maybe the look of some of the characters can be consider iconic, but I can't think of specific scenes.
 
Okay yea, because I honestly think that's something that people will talk about 20 years from now when they think of BvS.


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It's a very good film. It's too bad so many people got caught up in the same herd mentality when it came out...maybe too many Marvel films had something to do with it, who knows? I think in 10 or 20 years, future critics will see the film as a good Superman origin and a very good Superman film, because it is very good.
I think it will be mostly forgotten in 20 years, as will most comic book movies. There's just so many of them out there now, that to stand out, one of them has to be special. Dark Knight will still probably stand out in that time, but I have a hard time imagining something that got such a lukewarm reaction actually growing on people over time, when it's got to compete with dozens of other comic book movies, most of which are considered better by critics and nerd fans alike.

Post-BVS I respect it more for being its own self-contained film at least. I don't really like it as an origin story for Superman though.

And although Williams' theme remains king I do love what Zimmer created aswell, been listening to it the past few nights.
Yeah, the only thing I can really say about it positively is that I appreciated it a bit more after BvS and Suicide Squad, which were both narrative messes, for whatever reason (though I appreciate Superman Returns more due to comparison with Man of Steel than I appreciate Man of Steel in comparison to the other Snyderverse movies). I hated what MOS did to the character of Superman, and it had a lot of WTF moments, for sure. But it seemed to know what it was, which was Snyder trying to translate some of the bleaker, more X-Treme comic books from the past to the big screen, as he attempted with Watchmen.
 
I think it will be mostly forgotten in 20 years, as will most comic book movies. There's just so many of them out there now, that to stand out, one of them has to be special. Dark Knight will still probably stand out in that time, but I have a hard time imagining something that got such a lukewarm reaction actually growing on people over time, when it's got to compete with dozens of other comic book movies, most of which are considered better by critics and nerd fans alike.

It's possible, but I don't think it will be completely forgotten because it's a Superman film and he's a high profile character. It might be forgotten and critically panned for a while, like say Blade Runner, but I can see it being "discovered" by a new generation that can appreciate Snyder's take on the character. One of the main complaints I see regarding MOS is as you said also, "what they did to the character", which is an opinion based on what you think the character should be, but those views can change over time and people might not feel that way in 20 years. They might be able to enjoy it for what it is...unless a "perfect" Superman film gets made in the next 20 years that makes everyone forget about all the old films :lol

I don't know if the influx of comic films will have a positive or negative effect on certain films, but my guess is that anything that's of "high" quality or unique will be remembered. I think there are more than a few MCU films that won't be forgotten and I think most people see the Nolan Batman as a trilogy, not just one film. Same goes for a few of the X Men and probably the first 2 Raimi Spiderman films.

Then again, Blade and Blade 2 are mostly forgotten, so who the hell knows?
 
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