Interesting. Hadn't seen that before. Not sure if it was on the laserdisc or not. Feels kind of "Ghost Rider-ish" and I'm glad it was left out. I wonder if the cowboy was upset that he used his power to detox the girl's mom then?
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Interesting. Hadn't seen that before. Not sure if it was on the laserdisc or not. Feels kind of "Ghost Rider-ish" and I'm glad it was left out. I wonder if the cowboy was upset that he used his power to detox the girl's mom then?
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I kind of like the idea of this character taking Eric's powers away right before he walks into the church to save the girl. It's very heroic, and it kind of changes the situation a little bit, because he knows he's going in on his own sort of speak because he's doing the right thing.
That's a good question. Probably, and he also saved the girl from a car hitting her and he was interacting with her, and perhaps he wasn't supposed to be doing that, which might explain why he didn't want her to see him at first. I don't know if you noticed, but after the detox scene, Eric shows up wearing a bunch of tape on his torso and hands. I believe they cut a fight scene he had with Funboy after he did the detox. Because he used his powers to help the girl, his body was weak and vulnerable to Funboy's attack, and that's why he wears the black tape.
I see. So it sounds like a few more scenes with him as The Crow had to be shot after his death, though mostly of the traditional "pickup" variety that often feature doubles anyway. That's really sad that it wasn't him hugging the girl in the apartment. It just means that we were probably watching genuine pain on the actress' face since her friend really *was* dead in that moment.
The darkness and patchwork compositing of the entire production really lent itself to sneaking in indistinguishable doubles of him without being noticed.
Yeah, Funboy was the one who shot Brandon when he walks into the apartment, so imagine how he must have felt. In fact, the gun Funboy uses to shoot Eeric's hand when Eric shows up in his apartment is the very gun that killed him later on when they filmed Brandon's last scene. So they changed his death scene a little bit by having the knife guy throwing the knife at Eric when he walks in the apartment.
Yeah, he was the little bad guy from Commando too. He's in a bunch of films and tv shows. He was even in John Wick. He was the clean up guy that Wick calls to clean his house.
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Originally Eric could be injured whenever he went "off-mission." When the editet out the Skull Cowoy and his exposition they had to do away with that thread. They changed it to the crow being injured as the cause of his mortality. This led to continuity issues -they had to edit the sequence of Eric being slashed up by Funboy after he expels the heroine from Darla. That'as why his hands and torso are taped up and his shirt shredded.
You're right, totally forgot about the "I'll kill you last" guy.
That makes sense. Also when Ernie Hudson and the girl are both talking about seeing Draven Ernie says something about her friend and she replies. "He can't be my friend anymore." "Why not?" "Because I'm alive." That exchange seemed to hint at some "rules" regarding his interaction with the living that weren't further addressed on screen.
I actually like the idea of him becoming vulnerable when he goes "off mission" as opposed to simply damaging the bird. Because if anyone who suffers a heinous death really can come back and be invincible then theoretically they can topple entire governments as long as they keep their bird hidden away somewhere. I much prefer a supernatural check and balance system that says "you're permitted to return to exact your revenge but if you do anything else you can be put down like any other man. Use your time wisely."
So I'm going to pretend that both he and the crow became vulnerable in the church since he wasn't seeking vengeance for the death of himself and his fiance. I would also assume then that his power was restored the moment Michael Wincott confessed to being the mastermind who sent the thugs to his apartment in the first place, thus allowing him to transfer Shelley's suffering over to him all at once? Fun (if morbid) stuff to ponder.
So I'm going to pretend that both he and the crow became vulnerable in the church since he wasn't seeking vengeance for the death of himself and his fiance. I would also assume then that his power was restored the moment Michael Wincott confessed to being the mastermind who sent the thugs to his apartment in the first place, thus allowing him to transfer Shelley's suffering over to him all at once? Fun (if morbid) stuff to ponder.
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I agree that the cowboy's rules should stay. 
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I agree that the cowboy's rules should stay.
B..but the... cowboy...he was in between Eric and the church warning him not to go in to save the girl. How else would you have the rule without the cowboy? Originally, the cowboy shows up several times, including right after Eric comes out of the grave and tells him what the deal is and what he can and can't do.
Plus he looks cool.
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Yea Crow is a good flick. I still listen to the soundtrack to this day. Love Pantera's Badge.
An never knew that. Always wondered the reason for the tape.
Never read the comics, so figured the killing of the bird was accurate. That scene with the cowboy looks bad, glad it was left on the cutting floor.
An never knew that. Always wondered the reason for the tape.
Never read the comics, so figured the killing of the bird was accurate. That scene with the cowboy looks bad, glad it was left on the cutting floor.
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Yeah, Skull Cowboy was cut because they didn't have the time to do it right and everyone was unhappy with the way he ended up looking. IIRC he was played by that creepy bald Hills Have Eyes dude.
I'm just going by the clip you posted. It looked poorly executed so that's why I'm glad it wasn't added to the film.
The rule about people coming back if their deaths were tragic enough was explained without the cowboy. As was the rule about the crow being his weakness. There are other ways to get the message across.
Question about the sequels: Is it supposed to be Eric Draven returning each time? If so, why? And if it isn't him why does every other Crow inexplicably put the same paint on their face? I'm sure either answer is going to be stupid but I'm curious nonetheless.
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The sequels/parts of sequels I've seen are all new characters. Though City of Angels includes a grown, re-cast Sarah.
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Also they are terrible.
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Yup, that's the guy.
No, in the sequels it's other characters and they came up with different reasons for the makeup. They're all terrible films, so don't bother watching them. Edward Furlong from T2 plays the Crow in part 4, and it's as bad as it sounds.
Make up scene from part 2
In part 3, the guy is electrocuted wearing a mask and that's how he gets the lines on his face. And on the tv show (yes there was a tv show
) his face would turn white with the black lines naturally, like some kind of Hulk transformation.
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I have a book somewhere with some cool info and pics. I'll post some scans if I can put my hand on it. There was also a very good article in Premire magazine that detailed the accident as well as the exhausting (and coke-heavy) nature of the shoot.
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Oh cool, I don't think I've seen that article. I saw this video and they go over the details of how it happened, but I don't know how accurate it is.
(it says bruce lee on the tittle, but that's a mistake. )
Nice "jacket putting on" sound effects.
"Whoa, did Maverick just buzz the tower again?"
"Nope, some dude just put on his coat."
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Was this recorded from brainwaves or something? I remember scrambled pr0n looking better than this back in the day.
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I don't have my copy of the Premiere anymore. I did find the article quoted online, which speaks a bit to the filming conditions:
Here's a quote from Premiere Magazine, July 1993
Craig Fincannon of Fincannon & Associates, who did some of the casting for The Crow, says Willmington, NC, is an ideal place to make movies (paraphrased). Translation: it's a place to make movies cheap), the Hollywood equivalent of making tennis shoes in Taiwan. While many workers in Wilmington are as highly trained as their brethren in New York and L.A, North Carolina is a right-to-work state, no unions necessary. Wages are lower, rules relaxed, and there are no fringe benefits to pay. Producers can save 20 or 30 percent on labor costs. It's one of the big reasons why North Carolina was second in film production revenues in the United States in 1990, pumping more than $400 million into the local economy. Fifty features have been shot there since 1983, including Super Mario Bros, and the forthcoming Hucksucker Proxy. And with the current trend in Hollywood toward independent films, the whole place is beginning to smell like a boomtown. But for many in Wilmington who make their living in the movie business, it's a mixed blessing. They all know the main reason producers come here is that it's cheap and workers have no recourse against demands for long hours and low wages. "You know that sometimes you're being exploited," says one Wilmington veteran. "But nobody wants to stand up and say anything about it for fear of scaring business away." Attempts at unionizing have been rebuffed. "The real problem is that people down there believe that if they start to demand higher wages and better working conditions," says Bryan Unger, an organizer for the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees in New York, " they'll stop making movies there." (This same fear, [in] fact [is ]the reason most crew members on the production declined to be quoted by name for this article.)
Here's a quote from Premiere Magazine, July 1993
Craig Fincannon of Fincannon & Associates, who did some of the casting for The Crow, says Willmington, NC, is an ideal place to make movies (paraphrased). Translation: it's a place to make movies cheap), the Hollywood equivalent of making tennis shoes in Taiwan. While many workers in Wilmington are as highly trained as their brethren in New York and L.A, North Carolina is a right-to-work state, no unions necessary. Wages are lower, rules relaxed, and there are no fringe benefits to pay. Producers can save 20 or 30 percent on labor costs. It's one of the big reasons why North Carolina was second in film production revenues in the United States in 1990, pumping more than $400 million into the local economy. Fifty features have been shot there since 1983, including Super Mario Bros, and the forthcoming Hucksucker Proxy. And with the current trend in Hollywood toward independent films, the whole place is beginning to smell like a boomtown. But for many in Wilmington who make their living in the movie business, it's a mixed blessing. They all know the main reason producers come here is that it's cheap and workers have no recourse against demands for long hours and low wages. "You know that sometimes you're being exploited," says one Wilmington veteran. "But nobody wants to stand up and say anything about it for fear of scaring business away." Attempts at unionizing have been rebuffed. "The real problem is that people down there believe that if they start to demand higher wages and better working conditions," says Bryan Unger, an organizer for the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees in New York, " they'll stop making movies there." (This same fear, [in] fact [is ]the reason most crew members on the production declined to be quoted by name for this article.)
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