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[GasparZizou]

I clearly posted scans that show that the Celestials took the "universe" and turned into the "Multiverse". I also posted scans that show that they are second only to the Fulcrum/TOAA and the usual suspects like TLT, just like the Watchers. They are singular entities across the Multiverse, meaning that there are no duplicates. There's no 616 Arishem and 6565875657 Arishem. There's just... Arishem. Same as The New Gods. The Presensce is still above them.

And ended up bound within a universe each no? With different versions across universes. no?

As I've read, each celestial click has their own earth, that does not make them multiversal, much less omniversal at all, it makes them unique, like Moon Knight, but not Omniversal. And the Watchers aren't Omniversal either. Is TLT still watching over the multiverse or not?

As for the DC Multiverse, that's the official map. As far as I know, each Multiverse contains 52 Universes, but they're all collected in the Omniverse:

Yes, it's explaining there are more multiverses, yet there are more universes than only 52 within a given multiverse, like I've explained, for 3 times now.

And that one is explaining another proposed property of the multiverse, which is the quantum foam.

Again, infinite infinite infinite infinite infinite infinite infinite infinite infinite infinite infinite infinite ∞

And besides all that, they're just fictional characters. I don't see the point in getting all worked up and treating them as reality. The writers can do whatever the **** they want with them, because they're... not real. And neither do we have all the answers concerning alternate Earths/Universes, Time-Travel or the various dimensions. We have formulas and mathematically "proven" theorems, but little to no physical evidence. So, personally speaking, I'd stop worrying whether comic books have "scientific" explainations.

I don't worry about it, I just don't like dumb stuff like that Doom thing.

There's lots of dumb **** in golden/silver age comics, but they should not be taken as an example of how time travel (in this case) should be depicted.

 

[Victοr]

And ended up bound within a universe each no? With different versions across universes. no?

As I've read, each celestial click has their own earth, that does not make them multiversal, much less omniversal at all, it makes them unique, like Moon Knight, but not Omniversal. And the Watchers aren't Omniversal either. Is TLT still watching over the multiverse or not?

I stand corrected there though.

No, they're not bound in any Universe. If that was the case, then they couldn't have attacked the Council of Reeds, which was compromised of Reed Richards' from various Universes, having meetings in the space between Universes. Back in the day, the Celestials were like what you're describing, but after 2007, some, if not all of them, are singular beings in all of the Multiverse/Omniverse with no duplicates.

Yes, it's explaining there are more multiverses, yet there are more universes than only 52 within a given multiverse, like I've explained, for 3 times now.

And that one is explaining another proposed property of the multiverse, which is the quantum foam.

Again, infinite infinite infinite infinite infinite infinite infinite infinite infinite infinite infinite infinite ∞

Eh, DC has a "Map of the Multiverse" on their site, with just 52 Universes, without the slightest hint that there are more out there.

I don't worry about it, I just don't like dumb stuff like that Doom thing.

There's lots of dumb **** in golden/silver age comics, but they should not be taken as an example of how time travel (in this case) should be depicted.

Considering that, at this point, Time-Travel is also not real/feasible... I don't really give a damn how they depict it.

 

[GasparZizou]

No, they're not bound in any Universe. If that was the case, then they couldn't have attacked the Council of Reeds, which was compromised of Reed Richards' from various Universes, having meetings in the space between Universes. Back in the day, the Celestials were like what you're describing, but after 2007, some, if not all of them, are singular beings in all of the Multiverse/Omniverse with no duplicates.

There are 616 Celestials, no? I should rephrase, they live in a universe no? Since nobody in comics is really bound to a single universe.

And there are versions, no? Not duplicates, but versions in other earths. Is this not true?

Eh, DC has a "Map of the Multiverse" on their site, with just 52 Universes, without the slightest hint that there are more out there.

Again, because it's easier to draw 52 earths than infinite earths. Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again.

You missed Convergence and Rebirth then. Plus the various pocket universes and unlisted earths stories.

Considering that, at this point, Time-Travel is also not real/feasible... I don't really give a damn how they depict it.

I said it was even harder than the multiverse, even impossible, like 5 posts ago

Yeah it may not be possible but that Doom thin was dumb to a logical level.

 

[Victοr]

There are 616 Celestials, no? I should rephrase, they live in a universe no? Since nobody in comics is really bound to a single universe.

And there are versions, no? Not duplicates, but versions in other earths. Is this not true?

Yes, but they all originate from the same place. It's as if the New Gods abandoned their home and each one went to live in a different universe. They'd still be the same singular beings in all of reality, no?

Again, because it's easier to draw 52 earths than infinite earths. Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again.

You missed Convergence and Rebirth then. Plus the various pocket universes and unlisted earths stories.

They should've added a disclaimer, or an asterisk, or something. Even in the Multiversity Guidebook, they list just the 52 Earths, even if most are blank. If they wanted to imply that those were just notable examples, they should've made it more clear.

I said it was even harder than the multiverse, even impossible, like 5 posts ago

Yeah it may not be possible but that Doom thin was dumb to a logical level.

It's made up, so... I don't really care, either way... Dumb or not dumb, it's fake, so... there's no problem as far as I'm concerned.

 

[GasparZizou]

Yes, but they all originate from the same place. It's as if the New Gods abandoned their home and each one went to live in a different universe. They'd still be the same singular beings in all of reality, no?

They'd not longer be omniversal.

They should've added a disclaimer, or an asterisk, or something. Even in the Multiversity Guidebook, they list just the 52 Earths, even if most are blank. If they wanted to imply that those were just notable examples, they should've made it more clear.

Well, that map is from 2014, a lot has happened since.

Plus it's already contradictory since at the edge of the multiverse there's the source wall and outside there's the overvoid. But then again, quantum foam.

It's made up, so... I don't really care, either way... Dumb or not dumb, it's fake, so... there's no problem as far as I'm concerned.

Well, axioms aren't fake so

Doesn't matter how fake or how weird, as long as there is existence, fictional or not, physically known or not, there will always be such primordial rules as action -> reaction.

Otherwise there's only the overvoid and Doom does not live in the overvoid

 

[RIDDICK]

 

[GasparZizou]

Please, I have 52/52 vision.

 

[Victοr]

They'd not longer be omniversal.

But they'd still be the same beings. Every time Metron visits the Prime Earth he stops being Omniversal?

Well, that map is from 2014, a lot has happened since.

Plus it's already contradictory since at the edge of the multiverse there's the source wall and outside there's the overvoid. But then again, quantum foam.

Eh, if your map shows 52 Earths, and the Guidebook shows 52 Earths without any indication of others, I'm gonna take that to mean that there are only 52 Earths.

Well, axioms aren't fake so

Doesn't matter how fake or how weird, as long as there is existence, fictional or not, physically known or not, there will always be such primordial rules as action -> reaction.

Otherwise there's only the overvoid and Doom does not live in the overvoid

Each to his own then. I don't find it any dumber than anything else in comic books.

 

[GasparZizou]

But they'd still be the same beings. Every time Metron visits the Prime Earth he stops being Omniversal?

He doesn't live there.

Eh, if your map shows 52 Earths, and the Guidebook shows 52 Earths without any indication of others, I'm gonna take that to mean that there are only 52 Earths.

For convenience purposes it's ok. You'd be wrong but you'd be convenient. Hell you posted a panel that contradicts that with map but ok.

Each to his own then. I don't find it any dumber than anything else in comic books.

There's lots of stuff that dumb in comics sure, it shouldn't be the standard though.

 

[Victοr]

He doesn't live there.


For convenience purposes it's ok. You'd be wrong but you'd be convenient. Hell you posted a panel that contradicts that with map but ok.


There's lots of stuff that dumb in comics sure, it shouldn't be the standard though.

Eh, fair enough.

 

[GasparZizou]

Eh, fair enough.

This is the roughest conversation I've had with you and it still was polite as **** :

It's still good to talk to you even if we don't agree.

 

[Victοr]

This is the roughest conversation I've had with you and it still was polite as **** :

It's still good to talk to you even if we don't agree.

Likewise!

 

[RIDDICK]

 

[Captain-Miles-Dallas]

Jane Wants a Boyfriend - 2016.

Very sweet romantic movie about a woman with Asperger's
who wants a boyfriend, and how she goes about trying to
find one. Very good movie.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Dr. Strange 7.5/10

 

[marvinmyles]

Hacksaw Ridge 5/10 Excellent true story.Mel should have his own label for cinematography called Too Real.He and his crew are Master craftsman,beyond anyone else in cinema right now.Only a 5 because some bad casting,especially from 3 of the main actors.One in particular VV who was terrible/laughable.The bright spot Mr Smith/Elrond aka:Hugo Weaving was excellent.

 

[MegaPrime33]

Doctor Strange - 7.8/10

 

[cerealkeller]

Hacksaw Ridge 9/10 Holy hell that was a great film! Terrific cast and great storytelling by Mel Gibson. If people can get past their bias against Mel, this should be a no brainer for Best Picture nomination.

 

[Patriot666]

Re-animator - 8.5/10 First viewing and an excellent movie. Earns an extra .5 for t&a.


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[kryptonianmutie]

Re-animator - 8.5/10 First viewing and an excellent movie. Earns an extra .5 for t&a.


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