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[GasparZizou]

But it wasn't about their phonics, they even mentioned their "spoken" language and their written language are isolated from each other.

Emontional? Yes, Manipulative? Huh? I suppose all movies aspire to be emotionally manipulative to some extend, but there's no ill intention here.

 

[YoNoSe]

But it wasn't about their phonics, they even mentioned their "spoken" language and their written language are isolated from each other.

Emontional? Yes, Manipulative? Huh? I suppose all movies aspire to be emotionally manipulative to some extend, but there's no ill intention here.

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It was about the result of learning their language, as the protagonist did. But it only served a terribly heavy-handed broad-stroke drama. I didn't find it emotionally involving because it was swinging at low fruit with a hammer. Child illness and death should be treaded lightly lest it feel exploitative. I feel the same way about something like Dragon Tattoo that uses rape as a shortcut to get the audience behind the anti-heroine.

It's not ill-will. Just disappointingly common for a movie that had a few neat tricks along the way.

 

[xipotec]

Careful with plot spoilers please........

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Goonies 8/10



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[GasparZizou]

It was about the result of learning their language, as the protagonist did. But it only served a terribly heavy-handed broad-stroke drama. I didn't find it emotionally involving because it was swinging at low fruit with a hammer. Child illness and death should be treaded lightly lest it feel exploitative. I feel the same way about something like Dragon Tattoo that uses rape as a shortcut to get the audience behind the anti-heroine.

That's not phonics though.

So, trauma in general is low hanging fruit? Now that's a broad stroke. What exactly makes it exploitative?

It's not ill-will. Just disappointingly common for a movie that had a few neat tricks along the way.

Death is a common theme in movies. Yes.

 

[MarvelFirst]

Hacksaw Ridge 9/10
Operation Avalanche 7/10
Arrival 3/10
X-men Appocalipse 9/10
Cap America Civil War 7/10
The Yong Pope 9/10


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[MarvelFirst]

Gantz:0 9/10

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[MarvelFirst]

Deepwater Horizon 7/10
The girl on the train 1/10
Numb 7/10
Beyond the edge 8/10
Snowden 9.5/10

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[GasparZizou]

 

[YoNoSe]

That's not phonics though.

So, trauma in general is low hanging fruit? Now that's a broad stroke. What exactly makes it exploitative?


Death is a common theme in movies. Yes.

Yes, it's not phonics and I also realize they're not literally from bikini bottom.

Obviously I'm only talking about the movies Imentioned and their presentation. If you want to build straw men, good luck with the crows!

 

[YoNoSe]

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Goonies 8/10



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[GasparZizou]

Yes, it's not phonics and I also realize they're not literally from bikini bottom.

Obviously I'm only talking about the movies Imentioned and their presentation. If you want to build straw men, good luck with the crows!

Thats not a straw man, you are talking in broad strokes without giving specifics for 2 movies that tackle 2 sensitive subjects with tact, but if you dont like the exploration of traumatic stuff, thats understandable, movies are for f-u-n after all.

 

[YoNoSe]

Thats not a straw man, you are talking in broad strokes without giving specifics for 2 movies that tackle 2 sensitive subjects with tact, but if you dont like the exploration of traumatic stuff, thats understandable, movies are for f-u-n after all.

You took my specific criticism about the brief inclusion of terrible trauma in both movies to quickly elicit audience empathy (without developing any substantial characterization, examination, etc.) and said, "So, trauma in general is low hanging fruit? Now that's a broad stroke." That's a straw man argument.

I don't mean to sound snotty, I do like discussion, but it seems more like you just want to stir the pot with anyone who doesn't like the movie you like. I'd suggest you look into poor argument tactics if you actually do want to discuss things at length. Also the various definitions of exploitation since you asked. It's tiresome if you have to explain both sides of the argument to the person you're engaging with.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

What is that and what are they doing?

 

[GasparZizou]

You took my specific criticism about the brief inclusion of terrible trauma in both movies to quickly elicit audience empathy (without developing any substantial characterization, examination, etc.) and said, "So, trauma in general is low hanging fruit? Now that's a broad stroke." That's a straw man argument.

1. the usage fits Arrival, for obvious reasons.
2. Lisbeth has already been introduced and you have a very good grasp of her character before they drop that stuff on you.

So no, it's not.

I don't mean to sound snotty, I do like discussion, but it seems more like you just want to stir the pot with anyone who doesn't like the movie you like. I'd suggest you look into poor argument tactics if you actually do want to discuss things at length. Also the various definitions of exploitation since you asked. It's tiresome if you have to explain both sides of the argument to the person you're engaging with.

You don't sound snotty, you sound like you just don't like sad stuff.

I'm fine with people not liking movies, but when people say more objective things, I ask for reasons, if you don't have them, that's alright.

I did't ask what's exploitation, I asked why is it exploitative, I suppose I already got my answer above, it's not much, but I guess that's what I have to work with in this place.

 

[GasparZizou]

What is that and what are they doing?

They are hamster girls and they are dancing, but they are different persons, they are not the same.

 

[Victοr]

They are hamster girls and they are dancing, but they are different persons, they are not the same.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

They are hamster girls and they are dancing, but they are different persons, they are not the same.

I don't know what any of that means, but they're cute.

 

[GasparZizou]

 

[MooseOnTheLoose]

Logan - 7.5/10

 

[YoNoSe]

1. the usage fits Arrival, for obvious reasons.
2. Lisbeth has already been introduced and you have a very good grasp of her character before they drop that stuff on you.

So no, it's not.


You don't sound snotty, you sound like you just don't like sad stuff.

I'm fine with people not liking movies, but when people say more objective things, I ask for reasons, if you don't have them, that's alright.

I did't ask what's exploitation, I asked why is it exploitative, I suppose I already got my answer above, it's not much, but I guess that's what I have to work with in this place.

It by "fits" you mean they used a shortcut to tearjerk the audience, I agree. As for "you don't like sad stuff" - again, look up fallacious argument. I already said I'm only addressing these poor (IMO) examples. I gave my reasons, explicitly. And the exploitive nature is evident in the definition of "exploitation" and an honest viewing of the movies, whether you agree with the assessment or not. I can understand why people like these movies even if I disagree on the whole (there's quality filmmaking in both).

I'll leave it at that. Enjoy the last word if you must.