Rise of the Planet of the Apes

[darthviper107]

Just got back. This film is hands down my favourite film of the year. Really, really enjoyed it!

Looking to the sequel, my view is that:

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1. The virus wipes out a large chunk of the human population;

2. The surviving humans become weaker over time;

3. I thought that the humans would pass the virus on to apes all around the world but then wouldn't every animal become infected and smarter?:

4. The apes offspring pass the genes on etc. and the smart ape population increases...

Right or wrong?

That's one thing I hadn't thought about

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Like what would it do to other animals, I would imagine that in some cases it wouldn't do anything (remember that Apes are the most similar to humans which is why they used them). Perhaps in others it might kill them, in others it might transform them in some way. Like wouldn't it be interesting if it kind of evolved some animals into new creatures? And so it would be a kind of familiar place but still different.

 

[greygoose]

That's one thing I hadn't thought about

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Like what would it do to other animals, I would imagine that in some cases it wouldn't do anything (remember that Apes are the most similar to humans which is why they used them). Perhaps in others it might kill them, in others it might transform them in some way. Like wouldn't it be interesting if it kind of evolved some animals into new creatures? And so it would be a kind of familiar place but still different.

I feel like this would be too big of a plot hole in a sequel though. I'd like to think that:

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the apes gathered as much ALZ-113 as they could and distributed to other apes as far they could...

 

[automaton]

i would bet the sequel would be set several thousand years into the future.

 

[wofford29]

I haven't seen this yet, but can someone (without spoiling the film) explain how they connect this to the other films when Cesear shouldn't even exist yet? If they don't explain it, or if it requires a spoiler just say that. I've just been curious about this from the beginning.

 

[Ven]

its not really a prequel. I hate the term but its more of a reboot.

 

[wofford29]

Ahhh. So the old mythos is out the door? Which is fine, I was just curious how they planned to make that happen.

 

[automaton]

the old mythos isn't necessarily discarded. this movie is the prequel to the original... the space time continuum is simply altered as the apes travel back in time during Escape from the Planet of The Apes.

 

[Cocoboloboy]

I consider this a prequeboot.

 

[Michael Crawford]

This movie fits in fine with the first film - it's with the later films that it diverges. In the first film, all we know (and all the apes know) is that Cesear is the first 'smart' ape, that he lead the rebellion against man. The time travel of the later movies that placed him on earth has been altered, but that wasn't part of ape-lore to begin with.

It's really just the time travel element of the later flick (which was a pretty serious stretch anyway) that's been altered - even nuking each other could still be potentially explained.

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Once a virus of this magnitude started to spread, countries trying to contain it and save themselves could quickly get out of hand and nuclear destruction added to the virul destruction is quite possible..

 

[wofford29]

So this is supposed to be a different Caeser than the one that was the child of Cornelius and Zira?

 

[Darth Snoopy]

So this is supposed to be a different Caeser than the one that was the child of Cornelius and Zira?

The short answer is yes.

 

[floppy hat jon]

the old mythos isn't necessarily discarded. this movie is the prequel to the original... the space time continuum is simply altered as the apes travel back in time during Escape from the Planet of The Apes.

But in the original sequence, the sacred scrolls say that Aldo is the first ape to say "no"?

 

[Michael Crawford]

Yea, they messed with who says 'no', but then again the original films were a bit on the fast and loose side with all that too. Caeser led the revolt, not Aldo, and as I recall he (Aldo) was a chimp at one point and a gorilla at another. And it wasn't until one of the later movies that they even discussed Aldo, so as I said earlier, this film can fit in with the original first film just fine. It's when you get to 3 and beyond that it diverges.

 

[Nitro]

Seeing this film for the first time this evening...really looking forward to it with the positive buzz from this thread.

 

[ONEYE]

This movie stand on its own. It can be thought of as related or inspired by the originals, but seeing the originals isn't a requirement or necessary for enjoyment/understanding.

 

[greygoose]

Seeing this film for the first time this evening...really looking forward to it with the positive buzz from this thread.

The film is brilliant!

 

[automaton]

But in the original sequence, the sacred scrolls say that Aldo is the first ape to say "no"?

keep in mind the "sacred scrolls" were a convenience of Escape from the Planet of the Apes. in the original film, apes other than Zaius didn't know that humans "came first".

 

[scarecrow jim]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju70R9iVDkU&feature=player_embedded"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju70R9iVDkU&feature=player_embedded[/ame]

Here's a vid from Rise of the POTA director Rupert Wyatt on the possibility of more sequels

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Cool! Thanks for posting the vid, Scarecrow Jim!

 

[Batty]

A sequel's pretty much a given. Rise got really good reviews and set itself up for a sequel. And I'm assumming it did well at the box office (I don't bother following numbers). Fox would be stupid not to follow up.