Robert Rodriguez's PREDATORS Movie Thread - SPOILERS

[tylerdurden]

whoa, a whole lotta flaming going on around here! lemme add some more fuel to the fire.

y'know, the film's creature designers may have every right to take some liberties with the predator physiology, but what they did with the super-pred/mr. black broke the basic rules. no matter how different a certain species may look on the surface, the basic skeletal structure is always consistent (deformities don't count). designing mr black minus the "crown" is like depicting a gorilla without its signature steep forehead, and making it say, a flat-top frankenstein-like shape.

the yautja species' crown is part of its skeletal structure, so unless mr black is severely deformed like the elephant man or is a genetically-manipulated sub-species (remains to be seen but unlikely), the new crown-less design is just plain wrong. and that's nothing to do with taste or aesthetics. this may sound like fanboy nitpicking but its really just creature design 101.

 

[Rotfish]

Think about evolution, though. Adaptation. Different parts of the body changing based on location and backstory. These Preds could be a deformed and forgotten subspecies, because they might have been kept seperate from the normal ones for so long. And subspecies can mean a variety of things, and therefore these can in fact be different. Compare a caveman to a modern human. Different look, yes. Different bone structure, of course.

Either these new Predators never made it in civilized society, or they've been left to fend for themselves, thus de-evolving back into savages.

 

[xr6.turbo]

My theater's matinee is 5.50. It's the best. And for all ages.

You dont need snacks.

Or atleast sneak them in from the gas station.

AND 16 BUCKS FOR TWO AT A MATINEE? WHAT THE ____ING ____ MAN. That's insane. In...sane.

My cinema charges $14 for 1 ticket, $18 if it's 3D

 

[Nacho]

Well, I can't say much else other than to point out that's your problem.
And why would the movie suck? We've all been pretty psyched for this film until these new pics came. All of a sudden, based on some designs, we think the movie itself will be bad? How exactly is this a fair judgement? The whole "creature > movie" argument is exactly what killed AVP-R.I honestly believe that because the first two Alien/Pred-related movies this century didn't meet some of your guys' standards, a select few of you have become unpleasable to the point where anything but the original won't cut it. Some will hate new designs, others will love them. The way I see it, RR at least kept his promise -- this certainly is different. And there's no reason to overthink that word at this point. For now, different is simply different.
That's just me, and I'm not accusing anyone of anything. But we really should see the movie first, before complaining about everything including the film as a whole (which, once again, is a pretty nutty thing to do anyway).
And there's nothing copied, except for bringing back the P1 look. And those who are complaining about how this film is a replica of the first (which it clearly isn't) are the same people who complained about P2 and AVP-R not being set in the jungle (or being enough like P1). So be a little happy and accept that at least one wish has been granted, or if not, wait until the final thing comes out before insulting every aspect of it, including the stuff we haven't even really seen.

Well I f my opinion is my problem then so be it.

Bad acting, bad story line and the Strause bro's killed AVP-R
And everyone else involved made a mess of that movie.
The creature designes imo were fine although there are many
people who dont like the predalien design.

I'm not insulting every aspect of Predators, just the crap that has
already been revealed. I really do hope that it is a great movie
and maybe then I can look past the bad creature designes.
Lets face it people we haven't had a decent predator movie
scince the original, the others have just been money spinners.

 

[xr6.turbo]

Well I f my opinion is my problem then so be it.

Bad acting, bad story line and the Strause bro's killed AVP-R
And everyone else involved made a mess of that movie.
The creature designes imo were fine although there are many
people who dont like the predalien design.

I'm not insulting every aspect of Predators, just the crap that has
already been revealed. I really do hope that it is a great movie
and maybe then I can look past the bad creature designes.
Lets face it people we haven't had a decent predator movie
scince the original, the others have just been money spinners.

I kinda liked P2 and to me it was better in some ways (more weapons and seeing how the predator can see in different spectrums of light).
Plus the predator design was tougher looking IMO

 

[Nacho]

I kinda liked P2 and to me it was better in some ways (more weapons and seeing how the predator can see in different spectrums of light).
Plus the predator design was tougher looking IMO

P2 and AVP are both watchable movies with some great aspects
and I love the P2 design.
AVP-R, Great creature design just a very very painfull movie
to sit through.

 

[Rotfish]

AVP-R, Great creature design just a very very painfull movie
to sit through.

Hey, would ya like to go swimming after school? I taped the lock after class. About my boyfriend... he's been so totally fired.

 

[Macularius]

Hey guys, I'm new to this forum (well, I've been a lurker for a few months), and I just had to make an account to discuss all the haterade surrounding the predator pics!

First of all - they look VERY predator-ish to me. The super predator, of course, looks different than what you'd expect - that was the point. It's original, and never been done before - but it seems people don't want things that are original in the predator franchise anymore, almost to the extent that the terminator fans don't want originality in the terminator franchise.

Second, you do realize that they aren't stills from the movie? In the movie, there's going to be different lighting, sounds, they will be moving around etc. I edited the first three pics in photoshop to just change the lighting a little , I did nothing else....

Compare them with the first three (.. of which I still thought were pretty darned good) and they look loads better; presumably just like they will in the movie.

Third - if all else fails, this will spark new interest in predators and we'll get some hot new predator collectibles to put on our shelves

And a lot of you guys are acting kinda like *********s - really guys, it's a movie, don't tear out each others' throats because of it...

 

[Nacho]

Hey, would ya like to go swimming after school? I taped the lock after class. About my boyfriend... he's been so totally fired.

I hear ya!!

 

[Devil_666]

This thread is killing me with all the 1 post people popping up to defend this movie.

Paid forum posters.. pathetic.

 

[Rotfish]

This thread is killing me with all the 1 post people popping up to defend this movie.

Paid forum posters.. pathetic.

@Macularius: What Devil_666 means to say is "Welcome, friend!" Don't worry about him; he's always like this, so we're all used to it. Take that comment with a grain of salt.

 

[Devil_666]

I was trying to make them look sorta like sceen shots.

All you've done is the same piss poor job the makers of AVP:R did. Which is funny because I remember YOU being very vocal about NOT liking that and how it was done to hide the crappy creature costume designs. But suddenly for this movie, it's cool!?

This thread is a comedy goldmine.

 

[CelticPredator]

All you've done is the same piss poor job the makers of AVP:R did. Which is funny because I remember YOU being very vocal about NOT liking that and how it was done to hide the crappy creature costume designs. But suddenly for this movie, it's cool!?

This thread is a comedy goldmine.

What the ____ is your problem? I just made them for ____s and giggles.

Why am I not as pissed with these designs? Because I read the script. I KNOW if it's done right the MOVIE will be great. Characters > Creatures. ____ 'em. They got one Predator right. These are a new breed, or some ____. I expected them to look worse.

Honestly, I stopped arguing with you, why are you jumping on me for playing around in Photoshop? I didnt say "ZOMG I MADE THEM BETTER" I just wanted to see what they could look like in the film. :rolleyes.

 

[uscmhicks]

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I couldn't place it before but now I've got it. It reminded me of this crap.

I don't hate the look. I knew these were super predators but I didn't think they were changing the faces and stuff until I saw this photo so I was like " WTF ".
I'm one who thinks it does look better with a crown. As of now it sort of looks like it could pass as a predalien to me with that shape at the back of the head.

 

[CelticPredator]

He does look like a spider lol.

I'll wait and see before I totally judge this thing. I just want to see the characters....

 

[uscmhicks]

I'm trying to not look forward to this but I can't really help doing. It's f%^*&ing predator !.
That first movie must really be bad ass for me to still be like this after that god awful avp-r.


If this kicks ass I'm renaming my tarantula to " Mr.Black ".

 

[CelticPredator]

Dude, i'd totally be right with ya...but I read the script. I dunno...reading that made me happy, it made me excited. I'm glad that thing got leaked, other wise...I dunno...

 

[Devil_666]

why are you jumping on me for playing around in Photoshop? I didnt say "ZOMG I MADE THEM BETTER" I just wanted to see what they could look like in the film.

I wasn't criticizing the actual work you did (it was fine) I just was saying it's a "piss poor job" as far as darkening everything up ala AVP:R. Making things dramatically darker is just a trick to hide poor design. We've all see rubber monster suits that looked fine in normal light in on-set pics.

And keep things in perspective bro: you're by far the most vocal about this movie and how much you love it so when I counter that opinion obviously it's going to appear that I'm only targeting you. Trust me.. that's not the case.

Again.. for the millionth time: stop taking everything so personal. This isn't YOUR movie. Jesus Christ.

 

[uscmhicks]

Dude, i'd totally be right with ya...but I read the script. I dunno...reading that made me happy, it made me excited. I'm glad that thing got leaked, other wise...I dunno...

Well.. I haven't read the script but I'm one of the few who has confidence in the cast and looking at the directors last movies I actually liked " Vacancy ". That and with Robert producing I feel slightly more confident about it.

I've just noticed Nimrod ( why do I still find that name funny ) also made " Armored " which I keep walking past everytime I'm debating which dvd/blu to pick up. I might buy it or rent it now just to get a taste of his style.

 

[CelticPredator]

I kinda liked it. It was entertaining. He did some cool stuff with a small budget, and the cast was incredibly likable. But it wasnt all that amazing.