S.H.FiguArts Dragonball Z figures!!!

[TBlake]

i really dig the ss4 vers of vegeta and goku, was there any figuarts of those made yet? or just customs?

Just customs.

 

[illproxy]

Just customs.

cool, thks!

 

[Baneofdemon22]

I agree TBlake. I don't like SSJ3, nor the famous transformation scene.

@illproxy Tamashii is making SSJ4 Goku in their new Tamashii Buddies line, and SSJ4 Goku was an option on last years SDCC poll for the next figuarts, so it's a possibility.

 

[TBlake]

I agree TBlake. I don't like SSJ3, nor the famous transformation scene.

@illproxy Tamashii is making SSJ4 Goku in their new Tamashii Buddies line, and SSJ4 Goku was an option on last years SDCC poll for the next figuarts, so it's a possibility.

. I always thought it looked silly and marked the point where everyone became Super Saiyan. I always felt it took away from how special the transformation should be.

 

[illproxy]

I agree TBlake. I personally don't care for SSJ3 or the fusions.

@illproxy Tamashii is making SSJ4 Goku in their new Tamashii Buddies line, and SSJ4 Goku was an option on last years SDCC poll for the next figuarts, so it's a possibility.

ahh i see thks! yes def would like poseable figuarts ver. still have those really old dbz figs of ss4 goku and vegeta, the ones with cut joints. should have gotten the SS vegeta figuarts back when it wasnt goin for lots of money. vegeta is my fav by far.

cheers for the info!

 

[crisis]

I recall an interview from Twitter or something, in fact I believe our very own PwnStar confirmed that Japan isn't too fond of the SSj4 design so it was very unlikely to be made into Figuarts form. So I wouldn't count on it.

My opinion on SSj3 is neutral; I don't love it, but I don't hate it either. I accept it regardless. Would've been better for the story if SSj2 was the essential "full-powered Super Saiyan" form, but oh well, what's done is done. I'll buy a SSj3 Gotenks along with any other DBZ Figuarts they give us.

 

[Baneofdemon22]

@illproxy Well a lot of us are right there with you on Vegeta! I'm a broken record when it comes to him being re-released. I'm a big fan too!

I think it's a really cool dynamic that Gohan is the most powerful, yet doesn't care to fight. He only used his strength to protect those he loved, and then focused on his studies. People could say it's a waste, but he was an incredible scholar, so that would also be a waste if he let that go.

 

[Silrian]

With you tblake. I think gohan's ssj2 is the last one we actually see being achieved and pioneered. Goku's 3 is demonstrated, and gotenks' is copied.

Ssj1 goku and ssj2 gohan, plus trunks being the second shown and as such a mysterious young kid, and vegeta attaining it in a complete antethetic manner togoku.

Those four are the icons to me. 3 impressed me soley because of Sean and the music but not storywise. Storywise I dislike it as ive said before.

And yeah the hair is kinda dumb honestly.

THE four going ssj and the ne progeny son going beyond because he has that locked power even from 3 years old. That's it to me.

And then God I dont know cayse need to see bog. But I could potentially like god as the third tier. But to me gohan's ssj2 already felt like godlike power.

 

[The_Philosopher]

. I always thought it looked silly and marked the point where everyone became Super Saiyan. I always felt it took away from how special the transformation should be.

I do miss the specialness (is that a word?) of SSj, but when I saw Trunks turn SSj in the Android saga, I knew that Goku's transformation was a mark of a new era. Goku began the age of the Super Saiyans, a new standard of fighting had been created.

Through all of dragon ball (entire manga), nearly every saga marked a new standard of fighting, the fighters who grew in strength to meet this standard maintained relevancy.

> Rohsi helped Goku and Krillin establish the 2nd tier, use of Ki in combat (Ki attacks were once special in the series)
> Popo and Kami helped establish the 3rd tier, spirit energy awareness (sensing power levels, and your enemies intentions was once special to just Kami, Popo, and Goku)
> Goku and Piccolo establish the 4th tier, bukujustu (flying) and high speed melee attacks with bomb like ki attacks as a norm
> King Kai and the Saiyans established the 5th tier, high energy output in your ki attacks to create nearly nuclear sized explosions. And a new level of durability to endure them.

You see the pattern, this was just always the theme of Dragon Ball. And now with this new movie, there's now a new era, age of the gods.

 

[crisis]

Spoiler

I still don't know why they call it Super Saiyan GOD. What was so "Godly" about it? It's just a temporary power boost. It just gave him the ability to attain "Godly Ki" so he can keep up with Beerus, and that's it. There's no new mystical abilities you would think would come with the term GOD, such as immortality, prophetic vision, altering your size or anything like that. You would think that once Goku became a "God," he would be able to sense that Whis had a higher power level than Beerus immediately even if he was suppressing it, and that the dimension in which DBZ takes place was just one out of 12 total universes/dimensions with beings that make every single character in DBZ look like ants, but NOPE. None of that at all. Which is why I call it "SSj God AKA not-Kaioken." It's just Goku at Kaioken x1000 or whatever. Goku was already God-like without it, he could freakin' teleport anywhere in the universe in an instant, whereas it takes Whis/Beerus several hours to travel to King Kai's planet. But Toriyama's word is canon, so I can't argue with it

 

[TBlake]

I do miss the specialness (is that a word?) of SSj, but when I saw Trunks turn SSj in the Android saga, I knew that Goku's transformation was a mark of a new era. Goku began the age of the Super Saiyans, a new standard of fighting had been created.

Through all of dragon ball (entire manga), nearly every saga marked a new standard of fighting, the fighters who grew in strength to meet this standard maintained relevancy.

> Rohsi helped Goku and Krillin establish the 2nd tier, use of Ki in combat (Ki attacks were once special in the series)
> Popo and Kami helped establish the 3rd tier, spirit energy awareness (sensing power levels, and your enemies intentions was once special to just Kami, Popo, and Goku)
> Goku and Piccolo establish the 4th tier, bukujustu (flying) and high speed melee attacks with bomb like ki attacks as a norm
> King Kai and the Saiyans established the 5th tier, high energy output in your ki attacks to create nearly nuclear sized explosions. And a new level of durability to endure them.

You see the pattern, this was just always the theme of Dragon Ball. And now with this new movie, there's now a new era, age of the gods.

That's fine, I don't mind if people like the later transformations. I just wanted to clear up why I don't like them. I still remember those moments like when Goku first turned SS and Gohan turned SS2, where you could see how special being a Super Saiyan really was.

 

[crisis]

I still remember those moments like when Goku first turned SS and Gohan turned SS2, where you could see how special being a Super Saiyan really was.

 

[Silrian]

I think on a very general note the story telling device of scale increase only truly works twice when it concerns the same thing. That's often where 'threequelitus' comes from.

God, i would think, is a full new thing, if its kinda just ssj5 then I wont care for it either.

Ssj = the new level
Ssj2 = there is always a bigger fish.

Storytellingwise anything else is repetition and redundant.

If god is so ething new, like kaioken is a technique instead of a transformation, then Im intruiged bu that. But as Toriyama himself said ssj2 etc are just powered up versions of ssj. In the cell arc it was tied to a character from the very beginning, gohan's locked power. It had depth and weight and story relevance.

Cant shake the opinion that db + dbz with cell ganes as the end is a perfect anime series to me.

 

[Killian]

I've never seen the SSJ transformations/forms as actual transformations/forms, I've only ever seen them as being like a natural Kaioken for Saiyans sort of thing

 

[Baneofdemon22]

From the first Dragon Ball hunt to the Cell Games, I have no complaints. It just got better and better, coming full circle.

Unfortunately we're getting the 85 minute version of BoG, instead of the director's cut, so hold your expectation for that limited run time. However, for the limited time, I really liked the god form.

I felt the same way Killian. Which is why the blown back/tensed hair is good enough. I would have liked the Full Power SSJ to be the furthest it could go, except for Gohan.

 

[crisis]

I've never seen the SSJ transformations/forms as actual transformations/forms, I've only ever seen them as being like a natural Kaioken for Saiyans sort of thing

Well, literally speaking, if you consider Great Ape/Oozaru as the only true "transformations" Saiyans can do, then yeah I guess so lol

 

[Rrashidp]

Lmfao like i dont want to make fun of the guy because its too easy...but i really hope he was just joking around and wasnt serious at all lol..

 

[crisis]

LoL nah, "Francis" is a character he likes to play. If you click his youtube account it shows he's a normal cool guy with a tragic past that nowadays just likes to make people laugh & smile

 

[FSLAR]

That's fine, I don't mind if people like the later transformations. I just wanted to clear up why I don't like them. I still remember those moments like when Goku first turned SS and Gohan turned SS2, where you could see how special being a Super Saiyan really was.

...then Goten and Kid Trunks came along and it got reduced to a child's plaything as Vegeta said. Surprising at first, but kinda ruined. I wonder, anyone think Trunks and Goten being able to go Super Saiyan would have worked if they could only do it as Gotenks? Would have still had the special feeling, and probably show off strong Gotenks is; they'd probably be able to go Super Saiyan normally afterward. SSJ3 I like for the transformation part alone, that was what got me into DBZ in the first and still delivers to me every time. But the look...ehh, I'm...ok, I guess.

Through all of dragon ball (entire manga), nearly every saga marked a new standard of fighting, the fighters who grew in strength to meet this standard maintained relevancy.

This is very true, and I've noticed and appreciated it as well. Buu Saga is probably the age of fusion fighting though, but I just wish fusion was better utilized.

Cant shake the opinion that db + dbz with cell ganes as the end is a perfect anime series to me.

Ehh, in some ways it is, in some it isn't in my opinion. Goku dying and never returning, Vegeta swearing off fighting and not having a proper way to end his rivalry with Goku, and Gohan not getting the true peace he wanted (since his father was dead) makes it a little tragic; the Buu saga ended things on a pretty peaceful note in my opinion since Gohan finally became the scholar he wanted and started his own family, Vegeta and Goku were friendly rivals, Vegeta was able to make amends with his family and Goku as well. In a sense, Kid Trunks was also able to live his life the way his alternate future counterpart would have wanted. The Buu Saga is still very flawed for DBZ but I like it for the ending, since it's on a happy note fitting for DBZ and there's no looose ends. The Cell Saga was great but the ending is sort of a downer

 

[crisis]

Maybe because when Goten/Trunks were conceived, both their fathers had already attained SS so their cells were already accustomed to that transformed state, thus making it far easier for their children to transform but that's just me random speculating

It bothers me more how in BoG, Goten & Trunks look exactly the same and haven't aged physically at all from ages 7-11 (Goten) and 8-12 (Trunks), lol