I was utterly underwhelmed.
– They're ruining fight tension with way too much humour. Yes, dragonball started as a comedy PARTIALLY but all the fight scenes, especially later, were hardcore, were serious within the universe's somewhat comedic laws, but never undercut by the comedy. Tournament fights with master roshi, tien, piccolo, they were even more serious and hardcore than some DBZ **** I dare say. Neither was that the case in BoG imo. But in RoF there's jokes constantly throughout in a manner that's pretty much like Dragonball Z Abridged. Honestly, it's annoying to me and I'm started to be turned off by what Toriyama's doing.
– As much as I could care less about the guy, not involving yamcha, or 18, is ********.None of the power levels make sense anymore. And yes, they somewhat did before. But the gap is WAY too big between frieza 100% and golden. SSJ3 Goku should be able to slaughter that guy. Cell would've destroyed golden frieza had it been anything reasonable. I think it's a fun idea that frieza never trained, but that power up in six months is ridiculous. If he can do that in six month, he's genuinely ****ing retarded to even want Dragonballs for immortality. He'd be as strong as Beerus in a few years. It's just nonsense writing. Piccolo not even getting to own that red guy was stupid.
– Which brings me to the actual fights, what a bunch of underwhelming ****. The army fight is barely anything more than in the trailers and it feels like a montage. There's absolutely no consistency or even idea to gauge how strong these soldiers are. Krillin is ****ing powerful and in full flight he gets hit by a true and falls down? **** off. Just **** off. That's TFS DBZ straight up, ownedcount:+1. Also, Vegeta's role in this is RIDICULOUS. He gets a few blows in and that's it? Really? And he isn't even phased much by vegeta returning? Just like meh, I'll kill you for ol times sake. Wtf.
– And then that regoddamndiculous ending that I already knew off. What a BS move to deny Vegeta this already ridiculously convoluted chance to kill Frieza. It doesn't even make sense. Vegeta already had his attack powered up, Goku when he returns doesn't, yet conveniently Frieza looks up at Goku coming at him and does not blow up the earth, but Vegeta having a blast ready straight in his face is too slow? F off. This is the dumbest lazely writing to just let Goku be the main guy again.
– The beginning was okay, the humour worked, although again, it's so freakin close to TFS level now. I'm almost like, TFS haters should kinda come off their horses cause Toriyama is practically doing the same thing at this point. Jaco is funny, but he's straight up a TFS character. Now I like TFS, but I like it as a parody, not the actual thing.
– "That's my bulma!" owned every moment in RoF. The only descent rage seen is Frieza's, which was nice. And there are cool moments in it, both humorous and some cool blows. But mostly just jokes. Roshi blowing up his own stick was funny. Jaco was usually funny. But overall this is TOO comedic. Even for dragonball the original series, this is too comedic. It's much too aware of itself like TFS DBZA is. That's not what I watch DBZ for. I want some serious fights. This was Goku and Vegeta playing with Frieza + an asinine nonsense ending. Even for a kids cartoon I'd throw my hands up in the air at this. The latter half of the movie implies so much nonsense and gives no chance to enjoy any feeling of actual serious fighting. The fight was boring, lacked any dramatic weight that it should've had considering history, it was ********. Vegeta's could've at least mentioned that it was HIS son who killed him the last time. The comedy is raised, and it's much more self aware, I'm okay with that in between showdowns, but not when it undermines the dramatic weight of fights. There's little attention to character detail unless it's a joke. And from what I've read DBS isn't any better. Goku and Vegeta could've both killed Frieza and were it not for a stupid intervention nailing Goku JUST so Vegeta could land a few punches, basically Goku won before Vegeta stepped in, and he ultimately gets to deliver the final blow too. It's ridiculous.
Toriyama's managed to come up with some cool lore additions. I like the line of frieza knowing of Buu. I liked the first half the most, which is sort of absurd to me. Krillin as a police officer was great, I liked Jaco popping up, I liked them training with whis ("Because you're an idiot" great). But yea, overall, I felt less drama in this fight then I did with Goku delivering that final blast in BoG. This movie was a bunch of fooling around. It plays fast and loose, wanting impact whenever it suits it, but lacking any whenever it'd be dramatically consistent. Until I see some actual drama get back into the fold (and no, the comedy doesn't have to be removed for that at all) I'm out of this new DB content. It has some funny bits, it has some great lore, but overall it undercuts my experience of DB. And again, I did NOT have that with the original DB, whose fights were despite the comedy surrounding the characters, very real, they had depth to them that martial arts has. It saddens me. I love seeing DB in the new fantastic animation. But the writing's sloppy and plays it fast and loose. That's something neither DB or DBZ ever truly did when it came to moments that really counted. Except in the buu saga mainly I guess. I honestly like BoG better than RoF. Better written and tonally controlled. This movie pretty much felt tongue in cheek in its entirety. Especially Whis mentioning he can turn back time early in the movie. Wow, way to nuke any tension whatsoever. It also makes no sense with regards to DBZ's usage of multiple timelines. It's all a bunch of convoluted **** to deliver a series of moments. Weak and disappointing, even for someone who knew most of it.
More on topic: NO WAY am I spending money on figures from this. And now with db super, this basically is either a commercial for the brand that only spoils what's gonna happen, or if they deviate in the series, it's irrelevant.
So question is, I read sorbet hints toward everything going according to plan, but I didn't come across that at all, nor any hints as to what might happen after this. So what's up with that?