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Oh no! I just call my Androids, Kuririn, Gohan, SDCC Piccolo my family and friends display for now. It's just that since my collection is focused on Goku and Vegeta, I don't have anywhere to put those figures, so that's why I'm calling them that. I going to have to sell them so I can afford to buy retail Gokus and Vegetas.:lol

Oh I understand, yeah you're probably gonna need to sell them in order to buy all Gokus and Vegetas available because some of them are expensive as *****k!! But I like your focus, I consider both Vegeta and Goku the coolest characters in the series (of course there are other very good characters, like Piccolo as a example... He goes from a villain to someone that was able to sacrifice himself in order to save Gohan, and the list can go with other cool characters). By the way, by retail you mean every single variant or only the ones that are tamashii exclusives? I just got confused with that, I'm sorry.

The huge issue with the Japanese market is catering to them almost killed the line, but getting the line out to international fans saved it! I can understand maybe trying to give a little to both or balancing it, that's fine. But Japan's love also apparently brought Kid Goku back in GT, and that was horrible. (I love Kid Goku but combining him with SSJ...

I never thought about this way considering Kid Goku in GT and you're damn right, I never realize that but it is completely wrong, it's just 2 things that should not be combined, thanks for sharing this idea, now I get one of the things that I disliked in GT without even being aware of it... I personally like GT overall for the nostalgia, since I was a kid and couldn't differ much things so it was for me "OMG it's Dragon Ball yeeeeeeah!!!" :lol:lol
But after I grew up, I still respect it but in my own world with my own opinion I don't consider it cannon at all and I really don't care about any figure about this "era" at all...

About the agreements and the display, thank you very much!! I will show it more often for sure, I would like to use a better camera so I can improve the experience, but since I have glass to protect the frontal area, it's complicated to deal with the reflex... One day I will carefully remove the glass and take a picture with a good gamera from different angles and perspectives, so people can see more about it! And whenever I change things or make some updates, I'll post here so everyone can see the evolution. But I won't change anything on Goku and Gohan one, this is perfect enough already :lol:lol

And yes, at a certain point we come to draw a line because the collection itself either goes to a way we don't want to support anymore, or we just get tired of this rush to buy a figure before it's worth a car you know... I think one of the things that annoyed me the most was that, the feeling of "oh my god hurry I gotta buy this before it's sold out" I mean come on, do you need to go like this for figures?!
And to be really honest depending on what you want to sell, you should be sure of it (because rebuying some of these figures is a real pain in the ass) and then go for it... You win because you're gonna get a good amount of money on them (especially if you bought them in day 1 or when they were cheaper) and the person who dream about the figure will win too, since the number of collectors in this line has grown but the number of olders figures have not.

I sold my SS Goku 2011, Vegeta SS and even the old Trunks, along with all the others (Goku SS3, Androids, Cell and the whole collection that was released before 16), so I could have a good amount of money back and also allowed people that actually cared for the item to own it!

Unfortunately, Tamashii is a Japanese brand, so they will always cater to Japan first, as stupid and weird as that is, plus, with Super out they know they can make money from that series now.

Yup, that's how it goes, but it still a waste :slap

Tbh, they're thinking about this too hard. DB is popular as ****, make any character and it'll sell. Simple as that :lecture

Yep, exactly :lol:lol:lol

But I feel disrespected when he says: "We want to hear from you what you want"

Goddamit, just like it was said before, we screamed until we couldn't anymore about the ******* Majin Vegeta and many others.

I didn't even know about the survey until someone brought this up here :lol
 
Japan is truly a Wonderland of weirdness lol

@ Mipacs yeah, that was my issue with GT Goku. It's almost creepy, but this is why I have a soft spot for SSJ4 Goku (When I am not trolling prodigy :lol ) because THE Goku I knew and love, he was back. Plus the power struggles the child body brought back for Goku...it doesn't make sense! Gohan, Goten and Trunks all were able to maintain SSJ - hell, Gotenks maintained SSJ3 reasonably well! - as children. Why can't Goku maintain any of the forms for that long? Why can't he use all of his abilities? The younger body does NOT work if Gohan was, at the peak of Cell Games, the strongest in the world. But anyway, taking Kid and Adult Goku and fusing them...what if the reverse happened, Kid Goku's personality with Adult Goku's body? Poor Chichi... :lol I can't like GT as a whole, and I certainly can't like that much of it separately.

The pics of your display are still good, the quality is there but at some point, an in depth view would be cool. Go one step above, and video tape it. :lecture on drawing a line, yeah it might be soon with Super. For Z...dunno, maybe some variants. But I'm not talking about selling ANY of these figures, I mean other ones like the Attack on Titan figmas. I only got Mikasa but have not bothered further since they all have the same outfits with minor changes (because Mikasa is a girl, I guess) or none at all, it's kind of boring. Other ones too. For DBZ I might sell my Medicos Goku, I may get some Banpresto figures instead since they are cheaper yet still good, and frankly with SWA Goku that thing has...little purpose anymore :lol

I certainly shared the same mind set with selling some figures though, I gave crisis two Figuarts of mine for decent prices and he really is enjoying them far more than I do.
 
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How would you guys feel for a Dabura figure, I think it would be pretty badass since he was scary lookin, though his cape could limit poses but they should make it come off like piccolos, and now that I think about it Dabura should've had his own saga, given vegeta mentioned he was as strong as Perfect cell, they've could've thrown in another creepier transformation for him, just my thoughts...

Give us Majin Vegeta already
 
They're giving us Whis who barely does anything, and Vados who does even less, you'd think they could rationalize making a Dabura figure. But it's probably not gonna happen
 
Oh I understand, yeah you're probably gonna need to sell them in order to buy all Gokus and Vegetas available because some of them are expensive as *****k!! But I like your focus, I consider both Vegeta and Goku the coolest characters in the series (of course there are other very good characters, like Piccolo as a example... He goes from a villain to someone that was able to sacrifice himself in order to save Gohan, and the list can go with other cool characters). By the way, by retail you mean every single variant or only the ones that are tamashii exclusives? I just got confused with that, I'm sorry.

You don't have to apologize!

I meant one of each form, but I'm not going to go back and buy old figures. I'll buy variations like Kid Goku, Kaioken Goku, Saiyan arc Goku, SSJ2 Goku, SSJ3 Premium Edition Goku, End of Z Goku, Saiyan Armor Goku, etc. Just one version of each. I'm going to end up buying Cell Games Trunks just because I don't think they'll make Saiyan armor Goku, so I can put his head on it.

Yep, Goku and Vegeta are my favorite character too, but I like pretty much all of them.

Japan is truly a Wonderland of weirdness lol

@ Mipacs yeah, that was my issue with GT Goku. It's almost creepy, but this is why I have a soft spot for SSJ4 Goku (When I am not trolling prodigy :lol ) because THE Goku I knew and love, he was back. Plus the power struggles the child body brought back for Goku...it doesn't make sense! Gohan, Goten and Trunks all were able to maintain SSJ - hell, Gotenks maintained SSJ3 reasonably well! - as children. Why can't Goku maintain any of the forms for that long? Why can't he use all of his abilities? The younger body does NOT work if Gohan was, at the peak of Cell Games, the strongest in the world. But anyway, taking Kid and Adult Goku and fusing them...what if the reverse happened, Kid Goku's personality with Adult Goku's body? Poor Chichi... :lol I can't like GT as a whole, and I certainly can't like that much of it separately.

You're the king of nicknames! :lol I also agree with your assessment. I have the DVDs and I tried watching it multiple times, but I just didn't like it. Goku was actually smart when he was a kid, but they made him a complete idiot. I think Prodigy said that he's being written like a big idiot in Super too, so that's disconcerting. Super Saiyan 4 is cool, despite the eyeliner and magical clothes, but it's odd that Goku can get cut by glass and he has to fuse into SSJ4 Gogeta to fight a guy whose biggest feat is blowing up a building.
 
I watched the main episodes of GT, not 'the lost volumes' or whatever they were called. But man at times, I didn't devote my attention to DBZ entirely. I was either playing Pokemon or something else on my Game Boy :lol And Goku was smart as a kid at times! As a whole, he wasn't as smart as Bulma but it's enough to say he had intelligent moments. I sorta see regression in Super, which is odd.

That's actually a good point about the last Shenron dragon (the concept really seemed to be trying to stretch out DB GT), it's strange. That whole final fight was really lackluster compared to Goku vs Piccolo at the end of Dragon Ball, and Goku and Vegeta vs Kid Buu. Gogeta was fun to watch, but that was it. Nothing was inspiring, it wasn't tense, no real development, etc.
 
@ Mipacs yeah, that was my issue with GT Goku. It's almost creepy, but this is why I have a soft spot for SSJ4 Goku (When I am not trolling prodigy :lol ) because THE Goku I knew and love, he was back. Plus the power struggles the child body brought back for Goku...it doesn't make sense! Gohan, Goten and Trunks all were able to maintain SSJ - hell, Gotenks maintained SSJ3 reasonably well! - as children. Why can't Goku maintain any of the forms for that long? Why can't he use all of his abilities?

Blux Waves from the moon :lecture
 
I watched the main episodes of GT, not 'the lost volumes' or whatever they were called. But man at times, I didn't devote my attention to DBZ entirely. I was either playing Pokemon or something else on my Game Boy :lol And Goku was smart as a kid at times! As a whole, he wasn't as smart as Bulma but it's enough to say he had intelligent moments. I sorta see regression in Super, which is odd.

That's actually a good point about the last Shenron dragon (the concept really seemed to be trying to stretch out DB GT), it's strange. That whole final fight was really lackluster compared to Goku vs Piccolo at the end of Dragon Ball, and Goku and Vegeta vs Kid Buu. Gogeta was fun to watch, but that was it. Nothing was inspiring, it wasn't tense, no real development, etc.

I think a lot of people forget that. :lol

The idea of there being repercussions to overusing the Dragon Balls was really neat though, and I really liked the idea of Baby. I wish they would have made him a sympathetic villain and allowed him to resurrect his race. I think it would have been a great plot device for Vegeta to make amends for his past. Speaking of which, I liked seeing Vegeta as an over protective father. That was good fun!

I know there's fans of GT on here, so I don't want to pour on the hate. I'm happy for those who enjoyed it.
 
I know there's fans of GT on here, so I don't want to pour on the hate. I'm happy for those who enjoyed it.

the irony of the Dragon Ball fanbase is that a portion of us dislike GT for x y z reasons, it has too many plotholes, character development going backwards, weird artwork, etc. then Super comes around which introduces its own set of plotholes, character development going backwards, weird artwork, etc.

it's just personal preference at this point
 
What's wrong with these guys? I mean, they barely give us the figures we want, never listen to what we say (no matter how hard we try or the place we say it, neither facebook, nor twitter or anywhere at all), they still don't play a fair game with the figures

Not to throw any blame at new material but Battle of Gods/Resurrection F/Dragon Ball Super put a stop to that. Tamashii Nations had a poll back in SDCC 2013, I believe, with a list of characters that we would like to see released.

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As you'll notice, Broly, Android 16, Vegito, and Mystic/Ultimate Gohan were released. Majin Buu and Super Saiyan 4 Goku had prototypes revealed at Tamashii Nations 2014. According to Adam Newman, Broly's sales put Shenron "back on the table" as a possible release. Kid Goku can actually be crossed off as well since Tamashii has revealed his prototype in October.

Blaming Tamashii by focusing on the current product, which happens to be the most important reason for Dragon Ball's resurgence, isn't necessarily a fair judgment.

Do not forget what they did last year in SDCC with the most wanted Goku of all time (probably only behind the SWA goku), can you guys think of any figure that would sell more than the SDCC of last year? I can think only of SWA goku and Majin Vegeta ahead of him, he would sell really well if he was a regular or even a tamashii exclusive, and look what they did!!!
This is not smart at all, look at all the other companies moves, whenever they release a SDCC, in my opinion they usually end up giving something that is either "nah I can live without that" or something that is "okay, it's cool but they have this other item that is pretty similar" - of course there are a few exceptions and sometimes the item is really great, but it's like releasing the main Naruto or the red Power Ranger or the main character in the most iconic outfit of any franchise as a exclusive of a convention.

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How would you guys feel for a Dabura figure, I think it would be pretty badass since he was scary lookin, though his cape could limit poses but they should make it come off like piccolos, and now that I think about it Dabura should've had his own saga, given vegeta mentioned he was as strong as Perfect cell, they've could've thrown in another creepier transformation for him, just my thoughts...

Give us Majin Vegeta already


Well, although he could look really good because he does have a cool character design (IMO of course), it's a figure that I would not buy... It goes exactly like you said, he could've had a better use, he had potential but was underused... He is irrelevant for me so I wouldn't buy, but would still be a good figure.

And yes, give us Majin Vegeta already!!!:panic:


You don't have to apologize!

I meant one of each form, but I'm not going to go back and buy old figures. I'll buy variations like Kid Goku, Kaioken Goku, Saiyan arc Goku, SSJ2 Goku, SSJ3 Premium Edition Goku, End of Z Goku, Saiyan Armor Goku, etc. Just one version of each. I'm going to end up buying Cell Games Trunks just because I don't think they'll make Saiyan armor Goku, so I can put his head on it.


Oh now I get it!!! Well, you're probably gonna have a good looking collection, I thought about this but aborted since I wouldn't have much places to display all this, but think about it, you could make a shelf only of Gokus and another only of Vegetas, and it would look really awesome!!! Just get the right background with a little bit of elements in the scenario and voila, you're gonna have a epic display yourself!!


Japan is truly a Wonderland of weirdness lol

@ Mipacs yeah...

The pics of your display are still good, the quality is there but at some point, an in depth view would be cool. Go one step above, and video tape it. :lecture on drawing a line, yeah it might be soon with Super. For Z...dunno, maybe some variants. But I'm not talking about selling ANY of these figures, I mean other ones like the Attack on Titan figmas. I only got Mikasa but have not bothered further since they all have the same outfits with minor changes (because Mikasa is a girl, I guess) or none at all, it's kind of boring. Other ones too. For DBZ I might sell my Medicos Goku, I may get some Banpresto figures instead since they are cheaper yet still good, and frankly with SWA Goku that thing has...little purpose anymore :lol

I certainly shared the same mind set with selling some figures though, I gave crisis two Figuarts of mine for decent prices and he really is enjoying them far more than I do.

Just like crisis says, blux waves of the moon! :lol

And yes, I still think the design for SSJ4 was actually good, I really like how it looks, but I'm not sure I would buy the figure (probably not).

I thought you meant DBZ figures, my bad, but still it's very good to sell some figures, as you can see there are people that would kill for something that sometimes we have and don't even care about!!

And I plan on recording it for sure, you gave me one very good idea, but I will still remove the glass otherwise people will end up seeing me most of the time in the reflection of the glass :lol

After I fix minor details in the Goku SWA vs Vegeta one I will probably record it with a decent camera, thanks for the idea!!

the irony of the Dragon Ball fanbase is that a portion of us dislike GT for x y z reasons, it has too many plotholes, character development going backwards, weird artwork, etc. then Super comes around which introduces its own set of plotholes, character development going backwards, weird artwork, etc.

it's just personal preference at this point

Blux waves of the moon just like you said

I don't know what is the general reception, but for me Goku and Vegeta outfit are just unbearable, I think Toriyama did this choice of design with this in mind "Well, if DBS goes wrong and gets hated, people will relate things to these outfits, just like they did to GT and the Z memories will remain unscathed".

Not only that, I think Beerus saga was okay, but the Freeza saga was like totally useless and pointless...

Dude, the guy had the opportunity (still have because it will feature 100 episodes) to sorta "redeem" the mistakes from the past, put all the Z fighters back (or at least Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Piccolo and the kids) together and give the public what they want, and even let Vegeta triumph in the end (to make everyone happy, make Goku defeat Beerus and Vegeta defeat Champa as an example, 2 powerful enemies that have matched skill and power and then Goku and Vegeta would be "draw" at least), but no, we have the nipple guy and majin *****king boo that fall asleep... Man, seriously, what the hell..

I remember boo sleeping in Z but not at the most critical moments... Their goal is to not give people what they want....

I think either you do what people want OR come with a even better and magical solution, not something that you say "seriously, I spent my time and money for this?"

Not to throw any blame at new material but Battle of Gods/Resurrection F/Dragon Ball Super put a stop to that. Tamashii Nations had a poll back in SDCC 2013, I believe, with a list of characters that we would like to see released.

As you'll notice, Broly, Android 16, Vegito, and Mystic/Ultimate Gohan were released. Majin Buu and Super Saiyan 4 Goku had prototypes revealed at Tamashii Nations 2014. According to Adam Newman, Broly's sales put Shenron "back on the table" as a possible release. Kid Goku can actually be crossed off as well since Tamashii has revealed his prototype in October.

Blaming Tamashii by focusing on the current product, which happens to be the most important reason for Dragon Ball's resurgence, isn't necessarily a fair judgment.

I understand what you say and agree with you, but still, they only listen to this poll? And to the feedback from the users that actually use this website that comes in the manual (and that I wasn't aware of)?

They should have other ways (that are actually useful), because the world isn't only about SDCC and NYCC, there are a lot of people that collect (even in the US) that cannot go to this sort of event, and people from all over the world that would like a open space to talk, and not only this limited poll from conventions (it doesn't matter what kind of convention it is or where it is). It is a tendencious way of having information and imagine if a lot of people that actually not even collect or know anything about DBZ at all just go there and keep answering the poll with dumb choices... Don't get me wrong, I know you cannot control what people will answer, but my point is that not only because you're there you actually care for it, or the people that are there are the only ones worth giving their voices...

And I agree with you, the new content did gave more attention to DBZ/DBS but still, they could go both ways, let's not forget DBZ Kai should be making a release of Boo saga probably in different countries in a near future, since this arc has ended quite a while ago in Japan (don't know exactly how it will be because every country has a different way of handleing it, but still something that actually could emerge worldwide eventually in different scales), and I think most of people that buy these figures are the people like us, that actually work and have already grown up... But we still love figures :lol

We are the ones that remember and love DBZ... The new kids that are getting into the DBS usually will end up with cheaper toys because they have the sole purpose of playing with the toys, this line just like the guy from the interview likes to say "are not to mass produce and fill shelves"

I don't mean to be picky or anything, I agree with you but they still have flaws in how they handle all this and the fact they had a better technology from quite some time ago (just like we can see in SWA and Armoured Trunks) and didn't use it because they still wanted to keep having profit from the old mold was really annoying... It goes like the Cloth Myth line, where people struggled a lot to get all the figures and then they come with "hey guys, look what we can do with Cloth Myth Ex", and then the pokemon journey starts all over again... :slap
I'm not saying you shouldn't invest in new technology and new products, but the whole market thing of obsolecence by purpose is reaaally annoying, but that's how the game works :dunno
 
I just don't understand why Toriyama had to keep the series contained within the 10-year period of Boo's defeat-DBZ Epilogue, and even that, the entirety of the series has only took place within 2 years at most.

I almost want to believe Toei had a say in it, like they didn't want GT to be completely retconned or something
 
DBS could have been great. There's still time but so far it's poop.

DB was the playful and adventurous series. DBZ was more serious and all about straight up shonen action and insane powers and transformations. DBS is what up to this point? I feel like it's trying too hard and it's failing. Seems more like a devolution of where the franchise was going.


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I understand what you say and agree with you, but still, they only listen to this poll? And to the feedback from the users that actually use this website that comes in the manual (and that I wasn't aware of)?

They should have other ways (that are actually useful), because the world isn't only about SDCC and NYCC, there are a lot of people that collect (even in the US) that cannot go to this sort of event, and people from all over the world that would like a open space to talk, and not only this limited poll from conventions (it doesn't matter what kind of convention it is or where it is). It is a tendencious way of having information and imagine if a lot of people that actually not even collect or know anything about DBZ at all just go there and keep answering the poll with dumb choices... Don't get me wrong, I know you cannot control what people will answer, but my point is that not only because you're there you actually care for it, or the people that are there are the only ones worth giving their voices...

And I agree with you, the new content did gave more attention to DBZ/DBS but still, they could go both ways, let's not forget DBZ Kai should be making a release of Boo saga probably in different countries in a near future, since this arc has ended quite a while ago in Japan (don't know exactly how it will be because every country has a different way of handleing it, but still something that actually could emerge worldwide eventually in different scales), and I think most of people that buy these figures are the people like us, that actually work and have already grown up... But we still love figures :lol

We are the ones that remember and love DBZ... The new kids that are getting into the DBS usually will end up with cheaper toys because they have the sole purpose of playing with the toys, this line just like the guy from the interview likes to say "are not to mass produce and fill shelves"

I don't mean to be picky or anything, I agree with you but they still have flaws in how they handle all this and the fact they had a better technology from quite some time ago (just like we can see in SWA and Armoured Trunks) and didn't use it because they still wanted to keep having profit from the old mold was really annoying... It goes like the Cloth Myth line, where people struggled a lot to get all the figures and then they come with "hey guys, look what we can do with Cloth Myth Ex", and then the pokemon journey starts all over again... :slap
I'm not saying you shouldn't invest in new technology and new products, but the whole market thing of obsolecence by purpose is reaaally annoying, but that's how the game works :dunno

It's a system that we need to use to our advantage. I absolutely agree that it's not the best system, it's a horrible system, but Tamashii is very specific on how they gather information. It's safe to assume that, without the SDCC and NYCC polls, the Western market is not an important resource for Tamashii as much as Japan. Our greatest ally is Bluefin. If we can gather reliable data, with a 100% guarantee that it is voted by an individual only once, and submit it to Bluefin, there is a strong possibility that Tamashii will listen. What Tamashii does it with is questionable but it's our best opportunity.

There is a rumor out that Tamashii will continue to focus on releasing Buu Saga products once the Dragon Ball Kai Buu Saga airs in other countries. Let's also pay attention to Tamashii's releases and reveals at the time before Resurrection F/Super were officially announced. Vegito, Ultimate Gohan, Gotenks absorbed Super Buu, and Gohan absorbed Super Buu in S.H. Figuarts and Super Buu in Figuarts Zero EX. That is a huge focus on the Buu Saga from two of their character categories all due to Dragon Ball Kai Buu Saga airing in Japan. Could it have gone both ways with Tamashii focusing on the rest of the market while capitalizing on the new material? Possibly. Is it better to wait for the other countries to air Dragon Ball Kai Buu Saga to gain more attention to their related releases? Absolutely.

You're fine, being picky creates great discussion! I agree that Tamashii has flaws and that specific decisions from them will drive you crazy. (Have you seen me rant about Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Vegeta's hair mold?) I would love for Tamashii to become more (Western) collector oriented but, sadly, I don't see that happening. The best alternative is to have our voices heard through Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and etc. The best we could hope for is that they listen. I'm hoping that Super Warrior Awakening Goku's sales and Super Saiyan Trunks' pre-orders have given Tamashii enough evidence that there is money to be made in newer technology and products.
 
I just don't understand why Toriyama had to keep the series contained within the 10-year period of Boo's defeat-DBZ Epilogue, and even that, the entirety of the series has only took place within 2 years at most.

I almost want to believe Toei had a say in it, like they didn't want GT to be completely retconned or something

Toriyama is similar to the honey badger. Toriyama don't care, Toriyama don't give a ****, he just takes what he wants.
 
Toriyama really just doesn't care at this point...I bet he'll be surprised when he sees PC SSJ3 Goku.

"who dat" :lol
 
I still say it's too early to completely write off Super as a failure. It's inconsistent, yes. But not a complete disaster as the anime has done a few things better than the movies IMO. Just enjoy it for what it is. This universe 6 stuff could really explode into something exciting. A month from now we'll all be loving Monaka and his nipples, I bet. :lol

To me, though, the original DB is and always will be the best and my personal fave, and this is coming from someone that watched and read it after Z. DBZ as an anime was fine but the manga is superior IMO. From beginning all the way to the end of Cell saga, the manga was pure gold dust. Unfortunately, the Boo saga as a whole, while it had its moments, just doesn't hold up to the quality of previous arcs both in writing and the art. I got the feeling that Toriyama was past his prime at that point and just didn't have the same drive, and it kind of showed (though I can't blame him when he was doing it for so long).

The manga as a whole is such a fun and easy read, though. I have all 42 volumes on my shelf. :monkey3
 
i'm just worried that Toriyama is introducing all this new mythos with 10 other universes, but we won't get to explore them much. Introducing multiple universes is enough material to let Dragon Ball last for the next 10 years, but given what we know of how Toriyama writes his stories, it'll just be a lot of food gags & wasted potential

The series will end & we'll be left wondering wtf is going on in Universe 2 or 9 because Toriyama/Toei never decided to explore it further. That's what I foresee inevitably happening, unfortunately :dunno
 
by the way seen this on Instagram. once again the fans beating Tamashii to the punch :lol

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