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I've always been under the impression that these are collectible action figures, not Hasbro-ish figures that are produced almost endlessly gathering dust in stores.

And I've always been under the impression that this is a business.

You are trying to argue on extremes, don't. There's a clear difference between doing a second reissue, as bandai HAS done before with this line when they saw there was still demand, and flooding target with tons of cheap 5 POA crap figures.

If bandai wants to ignore an obvious opportunity for them to make some money, that's their choice.

I'd never want to hear a word of complaint about sales from that company ever again, though.
 
And I've always been under the impression that this is a business.

You are trying to argue on extremes, don't. There's a clear difference between doing a second reissue, as bandai HAS done before with this line when they saw there was still demand, and flooding target with tons of cheap 5 POA crap figures.

If bandai wants to ignore an obvious opportunity for them to make some money, that's their choice.

I'd never want to hear a word of complaint about sales from that company ever again, though.

I have to agree here. Tamashii knows when to strike. Hell, look at Hot Toys reidsuing Hulk and DX12 Batman with extra pieces/figures. Tamashii knows these figures are wanted in the US. They will get around to them. Don't expect it to be soon, but they will get to them. From protos shown, we still have Normal Goku, Nappa, Android 17&18, and Shenron to get to aswell as sprinkling in repaints or rereleases. Honestly, the SS Gohan has been done twice, its time for a Normal release. Trunks was done twice aswell, but a third would be great. SS Vegeta is the one that is NEEDED. Time will tell.
 
Alright, Let's go guys!

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btw, here's an update of my light set up.

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Remember that the blue light is there to give more effect to the kamehameha piece normal goku comes with
here's a comparison with the old way

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Get off your high horses. When you buy Vegeta for $200 on Ebay or Amazon, Tamashii never sees a dime of that money. You are not supporting them at all. You are supporting the person who sold it to you. If you want to support the official line, go buy Krillin, Vegeta, or Goku. But when we pay inflated prices on the secondary market don't act like you should be nominated for sainthood.

If Figuarts ever rereleases SS Vegeta, I am sure most here would jump on it. Until then, this is not a bad substitute. Purchasing it does not mean you love DBZ or the official line of figures any less. This is not a moral issue. Lets stop acting like it's one.

Ok I read up to this post, have read what everyone had to say up to this point. I agree with what some are feeling as far as why its wrong but at the end of the day I agree with this post.

This one dbz bootleg WON"T affect the line, if anything help get ss vegeta re-released cause I'd like to think tamashii rather see that cash in their pockets as opposed to a bootleg pf their product. I consider myself a hardcore collector, if I didn't ss vegeta(which i paid $70) i would have bought this till they re-released it, there's nothing wrong with stand ins. A lot of u that don't agree is because u 1: have him already 2: have the financial ability to buy him for $200+ 3: have ability(responsible enough) to "put away" $20 here and there till u can afford paying $200
Not everyone are in those situations, everyone is dif and WE are no one to criticize. Dont see the need for all the back and forth say what u feel IS RIGHT to u and move on no one has to agree with u. That said thats my take on this. Mind u I own the figure so WE
 
A lot of u that don't agree is because u 1: have him already 2: have the financial ability to buy him for $200+ 3: have ability(responsible enough) to "put away" $20 here and there till u can afford paying $200

Sorry but I'm in camp 4: when a product is sold out I accept that and move on (apart from of course hoping to find it some day if possible). I don't get a knockoff as a substitute because that doesn't feel like a real substitute to me. It's not a Figuarts, it's factually a physical lie and I dislike that a lot. When you cross that line into fooling yourself it devalues the whole thing. It's not at all about money, if I was poorer I still would not buy knockoffs. If I didn't have any particular figure I'd still not buy knockoffs. Because I think knockoffs suck, whatever it is, in whatever field, as long as it's not a 100% functional without any level of art or emotion attached to it, knockoffs suck imo. I wanted to state this because you didn't list this perspective, but probably did mean it toward me, among others. And I actually perceive this to be the normal perspective of a collector. Most collectors of things in general have this attitude. Ask any collector of anything, be it hot toys, coins, cars, stamps, baseballs, autographs (especially that one), comic books, purses, stuffed animals, whatever, you name it. Most collectors hate knockoffs and for multiple good reasons, be it practical, moral and/or emotional.:lol

I'm fine with anyone begging to differ, but if you look around beyond this thread it was to be expected comments of outrage were going to be given. You really don't know the average general collector if you think it's reasonable to settle for a knockoff... In fact... it's kind of 'not done'... The majority in this thread might disagree, but the majority outside of it, I'm pretty sure, don't. The existence of auction houses is proof of it. The existence of autographs as a business is proof of it (because it isn't that hard to falsify an autograph to eye-accepting quality). The value in collecting is in the value of the object. For most people that includes it being an original. Again, differ of opinion by any means, but pro-knockoff people are the minority among collectors in general and you're really deluding yourself if you think otherwise.
 
Oh and awesome setup Blood! I changed mine today again as well.XD I think we're the only ones who prefer a black background and ambient lightning (?).

Yes Jay we REALLY freakin need 17 and 18 and lastly, yes, if Tamashii is so utterly retarded not to rerelease ssj vegetal... I guess they're pretty much asking to be ripped off by scalpers and bootleggers. I can hardly think of any reason that I'd accept for them not doing so.

EDIT: Btw Blood, you have saiyan Vegeta always in that tilted pose, is that from the anime/manga somewhere?
 
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Sorry but I'm in camp 4: when a product is sold out I accept that and move on (apart from of course hoping to find it some day if possible). I don't get a knockoff as a substitute because that doesn't feel like a real substitute to me. It's not a Figuarts, it's factually a physical lie and I dislike that a lot. When you cross that line into fooling yourself it devalues the whole thing. It's not at all about money, if I was poorer I still would not buy knockoffs. If I didn't have any particular figure I'd still not buy knockoffs. Because I think knockoffs suck, whatever it is, in whatever field, as long as it's not a 100% functional without any level of art or emotion attached to it, knockoffs suck imo. I wanted to state this because you didn't list this perspective, but probably did mean it toward me, among others. And I actually perceive this to be the normal perspective of a collector. Most collectors of things in general have this attitude. Ask any collector of anything, be it hot toys, coins, cars, stamps, baseballs, autographs (especially that one), comic books, purses, stuffed animals, whatever, you name it. Most collectors hate knockoffs and for multiple good reasons, be it practical, moral and/or emotional.:lol

I'm fine with anyone begging to differ, but if you look around beyond this thread it was to be expected comments of outrage were going to be given. You really don't know the average general collector if you think it's reasonable to settle for a knockoff... In fact... it's kind of 'not done'... The majority in this thread might disagree, but the majority outside of it, I'm pretty sure, don't. The existence of auction houses is proof of it. The existence of autographs as a business is proof of it (because it isn't that hard to falsify an autograph to eye-accepting quality). The value in collecting is in the value of the object. For most people that includes it being an original. Again, differ of opinion by any means, but pro-knockoff people are the minority among collectors in general and you're really deluding yourself if you think otherwise.

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but to tell you something. i know of a guy that collect the real star wars figures and bootlegs because he finds them fun like, one figure has a gun that doesnt belong to the figure or the names are funny.

Oh and awesome setup Blood! I changed mine today again as well.XD I think we're the only ones who prefer a black background and ambient lightning (?).

Yes Jay we REALLY freakin need 17 and 18 and lastly, yes, if Tamashii is so utterly retarded not to rerelease ssj vegetal... I guess they're pretty much asking to be ripped off by scalpers and bootleggers. I can hardly think of any reason that I'd accept for them not doing so.

EDIT: Btw Blood, you have saiyan Vegeta always in that tilted pose, is that from the anime/manga somewhere?

i guess we are :lol
but he wasn't always in that pose though
but it's from this pic, i may end up switching places with gohan and krilin

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Sorry but I'm in camp 4: when a product is sold out I accept that and move on (apart from of course hoping to find it some day if possible). I don't get a knockoff as a substitute because that doesn't feel like a real substitute to me. It's not a Figuarts, it's factually a physical lie and I dislike that a lot. When you cross that line into fooling yourself it devalues the whole thing. It's not at all about money, if I was poorer I still would not buy knockoffs. If I didn't have any particular figure I'd still not buy knockoffs. Because I think knockoffs suck, whatever it is, in whatever field, as long as it's not a 100% functional without any level of art or emotion attached to it, knockoffs suck imo. I wanted to state this because you didn't list this perspective, but probably did mean it toward me, among others. And I actually perceive this to be the normal perspective of a collector. Most collectors of things in general have this attitude. Ask any collector of anything, be it hot toys, coins, cars, stamps, baseballs, autographs (especially that one), comic books, purses, stuffed animals, whatever, you name it. Most collectors hate knockoffs and for multiple good reasons, be it practical, moral and/or emotional.:lol

I'm fine with anyone begging to differ, but if you look around beyond this thread it was to be expected comments of outrage were going to be given. You really don't know the average general collector if you think it's reasonable to settle for a knockoff... In fact... it's kind of 'not done'... The majority in this thread might disagree, but the majority outside of it, I'm pretty sure, don't. The existence of auction houses is proof of it. The existence of autographs as a business is proof of it (because it isn't that hard to falsify an autograph to eye-accepting quality). The value in collecting is in the value of the object. For most people that includes it being an original. Again, differ of opinion by any means, but pro-knockoff people are the minority among collectors in general and you're really deluding yourself if you think otherwise.
finally read everything and caught up lol. This wasnt directed to u directly bro, its a general post directed to those who have a signicant problem with the bootlegs. I sir collect pfs, figures, cars etc so I am a true collector look at some of my pics in my profile if u want. I wouldnit by a bootleg as a replacement for my collection, would i buy one for a custom sure no harm in that. My wife mentioned something (cause i asked her what she thought on the subject), she said "what about customs wouldn't those be considered wrong?" and u know right shes not too far from being right, at another forum there was a huge issue with a certain customizer taking ideas from others and saying it was his( when his obviously looked like crap. is that wrong? i think so. But like i said we all have our opinions should state them and move on we cant control what others do or the manufacturers of these original figures, we have no choice but to go with the flow. With that said just drop it bro lol. Again mind u I agree with ur point BUT I can understand others also, just be somewhat understanding. Anywho, lets be patient bluefin/tamashii explained they were focusing on MMPR because of the anniversary and ill jump back on the other lines this year so here's hoping. When is DBZs anniversary we'll get overwhelmed when that happens lol
 
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LOL, no matter what your opinion is, that's just hilarious. All the Emperor wanted was a ssj Vegeta rerelease.XD I couldn't resist making this:
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I actually meant SAIYAN saga Vegeta Blood.:p Where he points his fingers downward. Is that pose modelled after anything?
 
finally read everything and caught up lol. (...)When is DBZs anniversary we'll get overwhelmed when that happens lol

I did drop it and I never take things personally, or ever mean them personally, it's just that I felt your list of options didn't include my pov but it could've been meant to represent me, hence I felt like responding.

Only other thing is I had to answer Blood's picture with another, I couldn't resist, meant to humour the whole thing whatever you feel about it.

Someone mentioned this year was the anniversary wasn't it? We might have a good year ahead of us.

EDIT: Oh well Bane confirmed it.:)
 
Ehh yeah I don't like the idea of bootlegs and trying to pass them off in a collection as real. Maybe a substitute or using it for customs, the latter which is smart but it is delusional. Though I still think people need to take price into consideration.

Also this is from a few pages ago but
Also want to give you guys a heads up on a member here who is claiming to sell DBZ figurats but instead just takes your money and never ships the item. Do not deal with Black_Dragon003

He has already scammed myself and another member on the forum
That other member is me. I feel ashamed because of what he told me. Take what wvahermit says, it's true. Though I'm surprised that he got gypped too, I thought it was only me. God knows what he was told when making the deal.
 
LOL, no matter what your opinion is, that's just hilarious. All the Emperor wanted was a ssj Vegeta rerelease.XD I couldn't resist making this:
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I actually meant SAIYAN saga Vegeta Blood.:p Where he points his fingers downward. Is that pose modelled after anything?

oooooh, nah. it's similar to that one promo shot though. i just needed a pose that would make him go right (cell goes left and frieza centers) and just thought that that was a cool pose to go with it
 
Oooh that really sucks FSLAR. Did you use paypal? Meaning, is it possible to reverse the payment? I thought paypal always provides that option... And yeah ftr NONE of what I've said applies to customisers except volatile practical consequences of buying bootlegs. I've all the respect for people who like being creative.
 
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but to tell you something. i know of a guy that collect the real star wars figures and bootlegs because he finds them fun like, one figure has a gun that doesnt belong to the figure or the names are funny.



i guess we are :lol
but he wasn't always in that pose though
but it's from this pic, i may end up switching places with gohan and krilin

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I just spit out my drink seeing this pic:goodpost:
 
Oooh that really sucks FLASR. Did you use paypal? Meaning, is it possible to reverse the payment? I thought paypal always provides that option... And yeah ftr NONE of what I've said applies to customisers except volatile practical consequences of buying bootlegs. I've all the respect for people who like being creative.
I did, thank the lord. I'm just waiting on the payment reverse. The only problem is sometimes they require the tracking number but since it wasn't actually shipped...I have to give them some other info, and I doubt they'll take screenshots or anything.

I seriously hate how he tried to justify everything. It made no sense.

Those Star Wars pics are great though. :lol
 
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