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Does the bootleg come with fewer hand pieces? I swear from reviews, the real deal came with more.

The original shf ssj vegeta came with 3 faces : smirk face, reg face, and angry face with vain poppin, and came with 3 pairs of hands: closed fists, wide open hands and ki blast hands thats it lol scouter vegeta on the other hand thats a diff story lol
 
I hope they do reissue it was the first one i found in the brand and was what got me into it but it was too expensive
 
I was just gonna post here with being at 2/3rds of dragonball kid Goku has entered my top 5 most wanted figuarts, when I realised... What if the yellow hint is a nimbus cloud?:lol
 
Does it have the sheet of paper with then on it though? I think thats where the confusion is stemming from, as I definitely seen pics of it from in hand folks.
 
I was just gonna post here with being at 2/3rds of dragonball kid Goku has entered my top 5 most wanted figuarts, when I realised... What if the yellow hint is a nimbus cloud?:lol

0_0 you may be onto something there, although I kinda hope it isnt. Not that I dont want folks that are fans of dragonball to get figures too, but unless its put into its own series it will seriously hamper dbz releases having db characters in there, and we get few enoigh as it is :lol
 
Nope, thats exactly what ssj Vegeta came with; the groping and two finger hands were saiyan Vegetas.
Oh ok, and I think I miscounted or just didn't see the other pairs. I thought he had a 'clawing' hand like what everyone else in this line has. Like in this pic of Saga Vegeta

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I was just gonna post here with being at 2/3rds of dragonball kid Goku has entered my top 5 most wanted figuarts, when I realised... What if the yellow hint is a nimbus cloud?:lol

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Now if I can change your view on the Boo saga. And believe me, I know there's a lot of garbage in it. The main problem is Boo himself. Fat Boo was actually a fantastic villain, because of the perverse nature of him. While aesthetically he lacked any cool factor, he was the only interesting incarnation of Boo from a character standpoint. Then it became an exhausting battle of the Z fighters trying to take Boo down, in an unpredictible fashion. I liked that no power up in the world would help, which subverted the whole idea of being stronger is everything. Boo was just an entity of pure evil. I didn't like in the Cell saga the heroes and villains went back and forth with power ups. Then Cell was just beaten by the guy who had the most power, even though Vegeta and Trunks trained the most and were stronger to begin with. Yeah, we know about Gohan's hidden power. It got unlocked by the fat dude on Namek,and Piccolo, Goku, Vegeta, and Trunks were still more powerful. If Gohan won by skill, it would be a different story. He should have been built up more throughout the arc. Sorry, I'm getting way off into a tangent. Basically, yeah there was a lot of garbage writing in the Boo Saga, but a lot of incredible character elements throughout. Take little ones like Piccolo destroying the cameras, so Gohan's identity wouldn't be revealed, Android 18 helping Krillin cheat in cards (and of course he still looses), civilians camping out together in tents because their homes were destroyed, the rich teen ordering his butler to shoot an old couple with him because he always want to try to hunt humans and rationalizes that Boo would have probably killed them anyways, etc. Post Vegeta's sacrifice, it became Man vs Nature, and I found it interesting. Unfortunately the writing went bad during most of the period. I wish they skipped Vegito altogether, and Gohan was the one who shield himself and ripped out Goten, Piccolo, Trunks, and Fat Boo from inside the "Boo-Tenks". Skip "Boohan" altogether, so there's none of that stupid fighting candy, Super Boo having to go to the bathroom, talking to parasites , etc. My experience kind of reminded me of watching the redux of Apocalypse Now. Yeah, a lot of it should have been cut, but I want to see everything sometimes and feel just as exhausted as the characters. Kai will hopefully be more like the theatrical version.

Have you gotten to the King Piccolo arc? I think it's the best arc in the entire series.
 
To this day I still feel DBZ would have been 10 × better if only it had ended with the Cell Saga. It would have tied the story up nicely. Goku makes the ultimate sacrifice in order to save the Earth, Gohan steps up and defeats Cell, thus taking over his father's mantle as Earth's chief protector. No nerdy Gohan or Great Saiyaman, no After-World Tournament and certainly no BFFs Hercule and Buu. The trade off being no SS3 Goku, Maijin Vegeta, Gotenks and Vegito, but I think I could've lived without them easily enough. The Buu story arc just didn't stack up to the likes of Vegeta v. Goku, Frieza v. SS Goku, Trunks, the Androids and Cell.
 
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To this day I still feel DBZ would have been 10 × better if only it had ended with the Cell Saga. It would have tied the story up nicely. Goku makes the ultimate sacrifice in order to save the Earth, Gohan steps up and defeats Cell, thus taking over his father's mantle as Earth's chief protector. No nerdy Gohan or Great Saiyaman, no After-World Tournament and certainly no BFFs Hercule and Buu. The trade off being no SS3 Goku, Maijin Vegeta, Gotenks and Vegito, but I think I could've lived without them easily enough. The Buu story arc just didn't stack up to the likes of Vegeta v. Goku, Frieza v. SS Goku, Trunks, the Androids and Cell.

I thought the same but then I realized how much I would miss those characters. NO vegito, no super saiyan 3, no gotten and trunks or gotenks, no majin vegeta, buu etc.

even though in cell saga we got a lot of memorable moments. Goku vs majin vegeta, vegeta sacrificing himself moment with trunks, majjin vegeta killing innocent people. I would of truly regretted not ever seeing that.
 
I thought the same but then I realized how much I would miss those characters. NO vegito, no super saiyan 3, no gotten and trunks or gotenks, no majin vegeta, buu etc.

even though in cell saga we got a lot of memorable moments. Goku vs majin vegeta, vegeta sacrificing himself moment with trunks, majjin vegeta killing innocent people. I would of truly regretted not ever seeing that.

Hmm... I disagree. All of those moments pale in comparison to Vegeta saving a sickly Goku from 19's clutches, not in order to rescue him, more rather to assure that Goku will die by his own hand and that he won't be cheated of his destiny by a lowly android. Vegeta's initial transformation to a SS was probably the highlight of my childhood. lol! The way he not only made short work of the android but taunted and tormented him, before tearing off his hands and then exploding him - pure awesomeness! At that stage I have no doubt that Vegeta was even stronger than Goku. Majin Vegeta was tacky.
 
Gohan was an 11 year old who had ambitions to become a scholar. As soon as he got home, Chi Chi would still be shoving books at him. When he was 5 years old, even without Chi Chi, he was studying while training with Picccolo. He wasn't like Vegeta who saw everyone inferior for not training, yet all he did was mooch. I thought the Saiyanman thing was absolutely perfect, because it helped balance Gohan's home and school life with his heroics. It was peace time and he was stil just a boy! I loved that he had no perception of what society deemed "cool" and kept a naivety. Trunks would know because he was brought up in the city. They would actually grow to be productive members of society. I love the characters for their differences. It made them interesting, instead of just a bunch of meat heads. I guess that's why so many people like Broly so much, because he's he so strong. Gohan would have cared for his mother and brother. As much as Goku loves his family, he wasn't very bright, and didn't think of the repercussions of leaving his family to help save the world. The episode He's Always Late is a great example of this. Gohan lived far away from the city, and being that there was no major threat, he wouldn't need to fight and wouldn't know if he was needed. If it wasn't for Bulma using Goku, he would have remained in solitary for much longer and continue to be friends with the animals.
 
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Have you gotten to the King Piccolo arc? I think it's the best arc in the entire series.

I'm almost done with the Tien saga, so that's a no. And I can't remember how it went, so for all intents and purposes I can consider it new. I'll get back to you on it.

I wished the Buu saga was skipped insofar as I dislike Buu and everything about him. Super Buu is somewhat cool, but the rest is too whacky for me. The way I see and absolutely love it now is that Dragonball is lighthearted, when Goku is growing up, and DBZ is dramatic (I know, I know, westernisation bla bla). And Buu doesn't fit that bill for me. He also follows up what I consider the coolest villain in the franchise by far: Cell. So the contrast is painful to me.

I've grown to like the idea that instead of the buu period, we had gotten the tournament saga, just a real tournament like in dragon ball, than a canon Broli saga in which he could be dealt with better and they're confronted with the legendary ssj. And then the GT arc where the dragons go evil on them for using the DB's too much. All the great elements of the main characters could've been kept and it would've tied up all the DB lore pretty much.The final saga would've been about the Dragonballs' use in the whole series. Instead of imo some superficial gimmicky bubblegum version of pure evil who just happened to be buried on earth.

It's simple: I dislike Buu, his whole story, his whole arc, his gimmicks and all but one incarnations of him.:p So you can try to convince me all you want, I'll never like the Buu saga except a few moments like vegeta's arc, ssj3, U Gohan (and videl) and the fusions. I don't mind it being there, I don't mind it getting figuarts attention at all, I just see it as 'that bonus stuff after DBZ's best time'.

And to Big D: I'd love it if Dragonball got it's own line.

EDIT: granted, if it weren't for the buu saga I'd honestly not rank anything. I like all of it a lot and I like the whole as an enormous build up. It's just that starting with Buu it goes down hill again for me.
 
I definetly wish there was a different villain. I would have gone the Dragon route, and you could have had one of the Dragons be humorous, thus keeping that perverse nature. Have it killed off though and continually up the stakes and get darker. I disagree about bringing a Saiyan in because I think it would have repeated a lot of what Cell was, but be less interesting, especially since we just had Radditz, Nappa, and Vegeta. If the series was much longer, it would have been great though, but I think it would have been too soon. Cell had the personality of a Saiyan, with all his competitiveness and wanting to achieve more power.

I actually didn't care for the fusion stuff. Vegito was a awesome design, but I wish he wasn't in the Boo Saga, and Gohan was the one to free the people from inside Boo. Although if the villain was better, I would change my mind.
 
Dragonball was a complete series though, starting with episode 1 with Kid Goku and a teen Bulma and ending with Goku leaving to train Oob. So it makes sense why he ended with all that humor. I loved how the Z sword was a call back to Goku training in Korin tower! You're jumping in at the end of the story with Z. "Z" meant the end.
 
You do have a point about the saiyan thing, but Broli is so beloved and I do think it's a cool idea that theyre confronted with a sort of OG ssj coming to haunt them. But yeah it's mostly the dragonballs coming to haunt them that would've been so awesome as the final period after Android. The whole series db + dbz would've been practically perfect to me (ignoring filler material).

In any case, yeah, I'm joining the kid goku + nimbus and powerpole lobby.:p And I'd probably buy more DB characters if they got release. But I do agree with Big D it shouldn't come at the expense of Z when the Z lineup is so young, so I don't think I'll vote for DB characters in any future polls still, but a second db line would be awesome.

Oh and btw I do like all the origins of characters including Tien's. I just got so ****ing pissed when Master Shin made Chaotzu
cheat
. God that pissed me off so much haha.
 
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