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If there is a thumbs down feature in the forum, it'd be used now.Guitars over trumpets, horns, and violins any day, ESPECIALLY for DBZ
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prodigy1367
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Lol, music taste is subjective. Some people like classical, others don't. I personally think the rock soundtrack just fits DBZ better.
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Big Deano
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Im not a fan of rock in general, but it does indeed fit for dragonball. The fight scenes need punch, not orchestra. This is actually evidenced by the music in both films and Super, there is ALOT more punchy music in there.
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The only problem with the original dub track is that it was played when it shouldn't have been.
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FSLAR
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You know I said KID Buu right?Really? I actually really love Kai's ost. But to each his own. Also
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No, Kai OST owns you
DBZ did take itself too seriously.
Yeah seriously, bad circus music at that. Dragon Ball's OST I think was the same as Japanese, if not as DBZ's Japanese OST. But it worked better for DB cause of DB's nature, and that most fights had comical moments. Like Drunk Jackie Chen. Goku turning Super Saiyan, and Vegeta realizing his affection for Future Trunks were made partly by the music, but the Kai versions sounded pretty bad to me.You realize the japanese score literally DOES sound like Circus music? To each his own, but the japanese score does dumb down the more awesome scenes to me. I STILL get goosebumps listening to vegetas funi theme, but japanese? nah, doesnt do anything for me.
The ONLY theme that Japan does right is Cha la head cha la. Thats the only one I will give you
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Super Buu's theme is awesome, among the other themes you mentioned. Others would be the Eternal Dragon theme, the theme that plays in the opening narration for each episode, Spirit Bomb, Goku turning Super Sayian...ti's great
But...you just agreed that circus music (DBZ's Japanese track) is good
plus...rock music...at a circus??
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Oh for kid buu? He goes from ssj2 to ssj3. In the anime.
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He and Vegeta were already ssj though.
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prodigy1367
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FSLAR put it perfectly. The Japanese soundtrack was more light hearted and suited for DB. DBZ however is a different animal and a fierce one at that. It was no longer the humorous, action adventure that DB was. It was more serious, more action, more mature, and on a grander stage than DB, therefore needing a stronger, punchier soundtrack. So many epic moments were epic just because of the music.
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I have to disagree with this completely. The original soundtrack for the entire Dragonball franchise sounds and fits the series so much better than that generic, always on, constantly in your face, charm lacking, scene killing generic music. That music is a still a horrible leftover from how Funimation mishandled its translation for the dub at the time. The one major thing to come out of the creation of Kai was the chance they had to re-dub the series, and stick with a accurate script, and stay with the original score. I'm so glad they treat the series with the respect it deserves, and no longer go about changing things for ****s and giggles like they used to do.
So it seems the old Jakks Pacific Raditz figure comes with a scouter, that coincidentally is in perfect scale with the Figuarts scouter, and it even has a notch that fits on Vegeta's head.. in case anyone was curious
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In the anime, but my point is in the manga, he went straight to SSJ3.
It is, and epicly so. There were some moments of humor, but as a whole DBZ took itself much more seriously. Some humor would be a lot of things involving the Buus, though.
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But...you just agreed that circus music (DBZ's Japanese track) is good
^ this (also in support to you Big D).
Also, Buu IS a circus track on loop.
The difference in ost's is taste, yes, but a few things are very simple and not opinions:
1 the japanese score went for traditional scoring, and with oriental musical influence (which is simply logical).
2 they utilise less music in general. More silence in the japanese dub.
3 the score is very very aged.
The faulconer score
1 goes for a cool and otherworldly approach. It's a combo between synths and the use of violins + quirky things for quirky moments. (popular today in filmscoring). It downright shows the western dub goes for DBZ as a scifi show (which it partly simply is). It's aimed at an audience that isn't familiar with traditional and more oriental scoring. It aims to make the show cool, akin to western cartoons and emphasises the dramatic elements, while still including a lot of wacky scoring for the comedy bits. This does fit with many DBZ elements. It is in large part quite epic and quite dramatic action and many scenes and settings give the option for a sci-fi feeling. And where it's comedic, the faulconer score does not hold back on wackiness. Many people seem to forget (mentioning) that. The western scores didn't downplay comedy at all.
2 They choose to add more music, and less silence. Both faulconer and the ocean score do this. They also emphasise character and event specific themes more variedly and often.
3 The score is aged, but definitely less aged than the Japanese score. Simple music-technical assessment.
Those six things are facts. What you think of those facts and how they come across to you is opinion. Some people hate film scores almost all together. They experience it as if it tells them what to feel, which they don't want. They prefer more use of silence and dialogue. Some (like me) like synthy scores paired and a more dramatic feel when something happens that is factually dramatic.
You can say dbz shouldn't take itself too seriously, but 'too' is a grey area. To me, if it goes too far comedically that does take away from the punch, pun intended. There's a lot of dramatic stuff that happens in Z and the western dub chose to emphasise it. I for one am happy they did. I respect those who feel differently. But despite that music is subjective, what the music tries to do, it's genre, and it's relation to the material, is not taste, it is fact, because it is designed and manufactured consciously. Things can have multiple aspects to them. Being taken in more by one aspect then another, doesn't make those several aspects subjective. The experience of them is.
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this just popped in my head, a hypothetical situation.. lets say Tamashii contacted you & offered to personally sell you & only you their one & only Nappa prototype. How much would you be willing to pay for it, what would be your top dollar offer, knowing that you'd be the only 1 that has it?
this just popped in my head, a hypothetical situation.. lets say Tamashii contacted you & offered to personally sell you & only you their one & only Nappa prototype. How much would you be willing to pay for it, what would be your top dollar offer, knowing that you'd be the only 1 that has it?
Silrian
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If you think the writers for the faulconer score (which in a lot of cases wasn't faulconer himself by the way) wrote without respect for the material, you're being a biased idiot. Themes like the spirit bomb theme, piccolo's theme, the ssj3 goku theme, Vegeta's theme etc are pieces written by writers who clearly appreciated what they wrote for. They brought a lot of heart to it that gives me goosebumps to this day. It's just a different style of expression. If you can't hear that, sad day for you.
You can hate whatever you like, but claiming the music writers for the faulconer score were disrespectful to the property is a load of snobby BS – and I reiterate the man faulconer took credit foor music that was mostly written by multiple different other people. Also, the japanese score was for japanese orchestral music more generic than the faulconer score was for western music at it's time. You're clearly just ranting from a biased pov, rather than making a distinction between assessing something and your own feelings toward what you're assesing.
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$1000. I'd then take the prototype, get in contact with Datong or any other company that can reproduce figures and have it mass produced, distributing it to the masses. Using my massive earnings, I would then buyout the Tamashii division of Bandai and make any figure collectors want under my rule as supreme leader. I would be a fair and just leader, although you don't wanna cross me or no Majin Vegeta.
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THANKS now i can't wait for my hulk
Silrian
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@prod You really know how to invest your 1000$ there.
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