Sinostrius
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Totally agree. She was awesome and Daisy absolutely nailed it.
Haha fair enough! Personally, I liked that he seem to fit alongside Finn and Rey's age bracket and how he's seemingly a complete reverse of Vader's characterization/personality (at least so far anyway), which makes for an interesting take for a new SW villain.Yup, I just don't want that whiny brat in my collection.
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I feel the same way. One more viewing to sort out solid storytelling from the nostalgia, which blinded the hell out of me. When I saw Luke for the first time my heart was almost beating out of my chest. When the main title Star Wars came up the entire theater cheered. It was great.
As for Ren's unmasked appearance: I felt it worked it because he looked so opposite how we expected. I think the audience expects to see another Vader type, scarred, ugly, perhaps older, but instead we get a striking look young man, not necessarily handsome, but with a definite striking appearance -- innocent, fair skin, flowing black hair -- not how we think of a Sith lord.
In regards to the fight between he and Rey, I felt it paralleled Luke's fight with Vader in Jedi. Something caught my attention in the film: When Ren first heard about Rey's involvement in the conflict he lost his mind and destroyed that console with his saber. We could chalk this up to Ren's general anger over things slipping further out of his control, or it could be specific. I think there's a connection between he and Rey. I think he knew Rey was on Jakku. So I think there were three things at play during the final fight:
1. Ren was severely injured from Chewie's blaster bolt. He even kept having to hit himself in the side, as if to shove the pain back down and keep going. 2. I think Ren was holding back because of his connection to Rey. 3. Rey fought how Luke fought in ROTJ. When Rey bashes on Ren's sword over and over it reminded me directly of the moment when Luke cut off Vader's hand, which is exactly what Rey did to Ren. It's the anger that made Rey so powerful. That same anger that Luke pulled back from in ROTJ when he decided to not kill Vader and not become the Emperor's apprentice. It's that Skywalker rage. Surely Vader was a superior swordsman to Luke, but Vader was holding back because Luke was his son. And that anger, man, that anger is powerful.
Also, nobody taught Luke how to fight with a lightsaber. I mean, he had a few hours of training on the falcon before old Ben died. I didn't get the impression that Yoda gave Luke lightsaber training. Did Yoda even still have his saber? Obi Wan, Yoda, and Vader were the last properly trained Jedi. Surely Luke taught Ren how to fight, but Luke never received proper training himself. But the force heightens a Jedi's abilities all around, so they're able to wield lightsabers when all others cannot. It was Rey's force abilities which gave her a natural ability to wield a saber.
One last note: I found Ren's uncertainty to be one of the most interesting and unexpected parts of his character. He was legitimately conflicted. This film was Ben Solo's final push to the dark side.
Dude, right after finishing season 1, I googled captain rex figuart. haha. I thought perhaps he was one of the clone trooper commanders that is on its way but alas he's not. Though, I'm pretty sure if you throw the pauldron from black series Rex on the blue figuarts clone commander you'd have yourself a makeshift Rex. I also wouldn't mind a cold assault variant:
I feel the same way. One more viewing to sort out solid storytelling from the nostalgia, which blinded the hell out of me. When I saw Luke for the first time my heart was almost beating out of my chest. When the main title Star Wars came up the entire theater cheered. It was great.
As for Ren's unmasked appearance: I felt it worked it because he looked so opposite how we expected. I think the audience expects to see another Vader type, scarred, ugly, perhaps older, but instead we get a striking look young man, not necessarily handsome, but with a definite striking appearance -- innocent, fair skin, flowing black hair -- not how we think of a Sith lord.
In regards to the fight between he and Rey, I felt it paralleled Luke's fight with Vader in Jedi. Something caught my attention in the film: When Ren first heard about Rey's involvement in the conflict he lost his mind and destroyed that console with his saber. We could chalk this up to Ren's general anger over things slipping further out of his control, or it could be specific. I think there's a connection between he and Rey. I think he knew Rey was on Jakku. So I think there were three things at play during the final fight:
1. Ren was severely injured from Chewie's blaster bolt. He even kept having to hit himself in the side, as if to shove the pain back down and keep going. 2. I think Ren was holding back because of his connection to Rey. 3. Rey fought how Luke fought in ROTJ. When Rey bashes on Ren's sword over and over it reminded me directly of the moment when Luke cut off Vader's hand, which is exactly what Rey did to Ren. It's the anger that made Rey so powerful. That same anger that Luke pulled back from in ROTJ when he decided to not kill Vader and not become the Emperor's apprentice. It's that Skywalker rage. Surely Vader was a superior swordsman to Luke, but Vader was holding back because Luke was his son. And that anger, man, that anger is powerful.
Also, nobody taught Luke how to fight with a lightsaber. I mean, he had a few hours of training on the falcon before old Ben died. I didn't get the impression that Yoda gave Luke lightsaber training. Did Yoda even still have his saber? Obi Wan, Yoda, and Vader were the last properly trained Jedi. Surely Luke taught Ren how to fight, but Luke never received proper training himself. But the force heightens a Jedi's abilities all around, so they're able to wield lightsabers when all others cannot. It was Rey's force abilities which gave her a natural ability to wield a saber.
One last note: I found Ren's uncertainty to be one of the most interesting and unexpected parts of his character. He was legitimately conflicted. This film was Ben Solo's final push to the dark side.
You bring up pretty good points. After mulling it over I've changed some views on quite a few things actually. Kylo's appearance is actually a perfect reflection of his character. I was thinking specifically about the scene when Rey was talking about how he was just a monster behind a mask. After she says that we see Kylo unmask and instead of a scarred war torned cool guy, we get a kid. Not only that but he is an average looking one at best. Ben Solo was truly just an innocent that was seduced by the dark side. It shows how anyone can suddenly be turned. Luke was the same except he managed to overcome it, perhaps due to seeing his own self in Vader. Thinking about it this way, I'm perfectly fine with Adam portraying Kylo.
As for the character he's quickly becoming one of my favorite villains. He so different from a typical bad guy in that while he is evil (no doubt about that), he's still experiencing internal conflict. He's trying so hard to be the ideal Vader but there's a small sliver of light within him that's preventing him from going full on dark side. The death of Han was cathartic for him and he can only get more evil as time progresses. Personally I think he will eventually turn back and if not become an anti-hero but he will first get worse before getting better.
Regarding the fight I was thinking too about how the natural Skywalker within Rey perhaps could've given her an innate ability to wield a saber and even use the force. After all she's probably got a **** ton of midichlorians within her.
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So should I start to worry?? I still haven't received my payment notice from amiami and I emailed them yesterday but no response yet.. Anyone else still waiting for them? Never had a problem before with them..
Must resist....
God i shouldnt have watched the movie (ノД`)
Watching the Clone Wars on netflix has made me realize the Jedi are a militant cult masquerading as peacekeepers. The lines between good and evil are blurred. Lucas really missed an opportunity to play that up in the movies. The films portray Anakin as a whiny teenager full of misdirected anger, but actually he was a battle-hardened soldier at odds with his own ideologies and those of his religion -- at odds with himself, the decisions he'd made and the ones thrust upon him. Born into slavery, taken from his mother when he was a child, and then only reunited to watch her die. Not an easy life.I also think there's hope for Solo. As I mentioned a few pages ago he's one of the lost souls of the star wars series, like Anakin and Luke. The lost souls bring balance to the force because they see things from both the light and the dark side. On a related/unrelated note, I was kind of hoping we'd see Luke rocking black like in ROTJ, but Lucas and this whole Sith nonsense has made it so only the bad guys wear black. If Luke would have been wearing black everyone would have said he was a Sith Lord. That was one of my favorite things about ROTJ Luke, he was this tormented Jedi on the edge of light and dark. But perhaps that's why we don't see him in black anymore, because after the events of Jedi he chose the light, so now he's embraced that Old Ben aesthetic.
Anakin never signed up to be a soldier, none of the Jedi did. He just wanted to protect those he cared about. He never really believed the extremist dogma of the Jedi order, and honestly I'd be questioning the whole thing too. I mean, that's why the Jedi Council didn't want Anakin to train as a Jedi, because he was old enough to see past their ********. The Jedi usually started training before the child was old enough to think for himself, so that the Jedi dogma can be fully indoctrinated without question. If Anakin's anger, which was completely justified, would have been expressed in complex ways instead of outbursts of generalized angst we would have related to him a lot more. Too bad Lucas doesn't understand human emotion.
I'm gonna start watching this show now. I need more Star Wars in my life and I've heard great things about this show.
That was another thing I loved about Kylo. He was human and showed his emotions. His bouts of anger were amazing and hilarious at the same time especially when everyone around him knew it was best to just let him be.
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