Sideshow ESB/ROTJ Darth Vader

[Racetrack]

Yup, becuase hot toys allways makes solid gold, perfect likeness, right?

To be fair that figure is from 2000 when they first started making figures.

 

[lerath666]

See previous post.

 

[Invictus Sol]

...Hot toys is not some magical "best of the best". other companies have some real jems, and this vader loks to be one of them.

Sort of agree and disagree. Yes, other companies have some gems but no-one knocks it out of the park so consistently as HT and no-one is close to their manufacturing know-how when it comes to characters like Iron Monger or ED-209. It'll be interesting to see how Sideshow does with Raynor. If it comes out as good as Monger, that'll be a real coup for them.

 

[pixletwin]

Hot Toys has a major advantage over other countries for one simple reason: They are able to communicate with the production factories in Chinese with no liaison.

 

[greygoose]

If Hot Toys did ever make a Vader, it'd be a DX and cost well over the $300 mark and still have flaws.

 

[snoop101]

Sort of agree and disagree. Yes, other companies have some gems but no-one knocks it out of the park so consistently as HT and no-one is close to their manufacturing know-how when it comes to characters like Iron Monger or ED-209. It'll be interesting to see how Sideshow does with Raynor. If it comes out as good as Monger, that'll be a real coup for them.

Agreed.

 

[Cingen]

To be honest, this vader is close to perfect for me. I am not a person who compares figures to screencaps, I am happy with around 90% resemblance. Just no obvious mistakes and I am more than satisfied. And really, for someone like me I don't see how Hot Toys can improve this figure. The likeness is there, all that could ruin it for me is bad quality or paint applications and things in that league.

 

[lerath666]

Sort of agree and disagree. Yes, other companies have some gems but no-one knocks it out of the park so consistently as HT and no-one is close to their manufacturing know-how when it comes to characters like Iron Monger or ED-209. It'll be interesting to see how Sideshow does with Raynor. If it comes out as good as Monger, that'll be a real coup for them.

I'll give you most of that. but they DO have their misses as well as hits.

Luke bespin, and Indy come to mind. The pending Bruce baner is a little off too.

Nothing wrong with that, I just get tierd of the Hot toys cheering section going on and on and on and on about how everything they touch is sooo muuuch bettar than everyone else by nature of being HT.

Hot toys BIGGEST advantage, is that they're willing to experiment with new ideas, and we see those ideas being carried over by other companies.

THAT SAID, the new Luke, for example is unsing the NEW SIDESHOW method, where the head, Eyes, and hair are different parts. Similar to PERS, Except the eyes don't move. As such, they don't need to be oversized to accomidate a mechanisim.

Not to say this method isnt without risks too, but untill we see Wolfe, we won't know which way it fell.

 

[snoop101]

Sure HT has their misses, but they also release WAY more 1/6 figures than any other company.

 

[DiFabio]

Until we see a Hot Toys Vader (which will never happen), there's no reason to compare. What makes people so sure that Hot Toys could do this Vader better? Not all of their Iron Man figures look like the real deal. The DX 12 was down right odd. Etc.

Every company has made some expensive, goofy looking figures.

 

[lerath666]

Sure HT has their misses, but they also release WAY more 1/6 figures than any other company.

... you sure about that?

i mean, they certianly make more batman and Iron man figures, but in general, I'm not so sure.

 

[lerath666]

not like theres multiple companies making Bruce Banner or others in 1/6th...there are none unless you go custom and 99.9% of custom figures I personally don't like plus they are usually double the cost of HTs....Only one i ever liked was the Adam/Kato Joker. which costs what, like over $1000+

people act like theres other stuff out there thats better....but there just isnt...HTs does amazing ground breaking work for 1/6 figures. If you dont like their products, dont buy em. spend your money getting more expensive custom figures made, and most don't have the craftsmanship. Look at Big Chief who has the popular license of Dr. Who. They are not even close to the quality of HTs and they are same price range for the most part.

And not like theres other companies taking on Zod and the amazing and highly detailed armor he wears. There is no one else.

Enterbay is good, but they don't make the same characters as HTs. Sometimes they do like T2 or TDK, but its not like EB is making the entire Avengers team or Thor 2 figures....all we have is HTs.

I think its cool to give a critique if you think something is off, and sometimes they do their best to fix things based off feedback, but overall no one touches HT in mass producing 1/6 figures...not in price, not in design.

Personally I collect these for the love of the characters and the movies. If they arent 110% percent perfect, its fine because i know over time they will get better. But even my older ones like the first Batman Begins I still love. not the best sculpt likeness in the world, but its was a lot of fun getting him at the time, and still think its a nice figure even though they have gotten better over the years.

Stop right there.

Do you have teh Big chief Doctor who figures?

I Do.

and they are NOT the same price as hot toys, unless you buy direct from BCS and import.

BBTS has them for 170-190 roughly.

and let me tell you, the tailoring and sculpting on the newest two is DEFINITELY up there with hot toys.

HOWEVER, i'd say the actor likeness are STARTELINGLY good. the quality of the David Tennant Doctor's tailoring is as good as just about any Hot toys piece I've got. And he has what is without a doubt the NICEST 1/6th Coat I've ever seen.

Are they The same level of quality or equal too?

Not completely. the sculpts lack the skin texturing that hot toys is so famous for, as an example.
But they are CLOSE on their heels.


I AM, however, in agreement with you on most customs.

Yes, HT innovate and push, but there are other companies who are close behinsd them.

as for price, Personaly, I feel Sideshow charges what HOt toys SHOULD be charging, and Sideshow whould be in the 150$ range on the HIGH end. but that's just my opinion.

 

[pixletwin]

One detail I don't recall anyone bringing up that I only just noticed myself. The actual helmet head (the non reveal) has a dummy-Anakin head inside.

How cool is that?

 

[DiFabio]

Yeah, I really loved that detail. I thought that was a great touch.


I wish Vader was as messed up as he was envisioned in Empire Strikes Back. That would have been a cool exclusive head to include, sort of like the Concept Boba Fett.


"When the captain comes in and Vader is sitting in his capsule with his back towards us, all you see are scars on the back of his neck for a second. I didn't want the audience to see anything else. I imagined that beneath the mask Vader was hideous; his mouth was cut away and he had one eye hanging low." - Irvin Kershner

 

[lerath666]

I dont own them, but ive seen them in my LCS plenty of times. I think they are good figures, but not HTs level. And from the pix of the Amy figure ive seen, i think they struggled with that one.

I just dont think anyone is close to HTs because they get certain character licenses that no one else gets at 1/6. Most of the characters they make you can't really compare it to anything else. Theres no other 1/6 Loki, Black Widow, Banner, Catwoman, etc etc.....

The fans push HTs and the other companies to keep getting better. I just wish there was a way to do it where there was less arguing. But i guess you can't really avoid that. Just sometimes people say things that sound just so hateful. Not everyone, but some do and it gets annoying.

I mean there is nothing wrong with people loving HTs. Why do some people get upset at others who enjoy them? If you think something is off, fine....but some just sound like they want HTs to fail. Makes no sense to me...

11 and Amy, i agree with you.
Though considering 11 was the first figure BCS ever made, it was amazingly good.

10 and 4, Are LIGHT YEARS better than those two.

I DO get what you're saying, but you've got to rermember, most of those liscenses are EXCLUSIVE. meaning that, as long as Hot toys has said liscense, NO ONE ELSE can do them. So saying that it's better becuase of character choice isn't exactly fair.

By that reasoning, Sideshow is automaticly superior JUST BECUASE of Star Wars.

And I do get get your saying. There are alot of haters out there. My only beef is there are too many rose colored glasses as well.

accept the good and the bad, don't just take the "they can do no wrong" viewpoint.

 

[FLOSI]

I NEED NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[greygoose]

I NEED NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some shots just seal the deal and this is one of them.

 

[FLOSI]

Now, if you guys really want something to complain about, take a look at this:

 

[Natrix]

Sort of agree and disagree. Yes, other companies have some gems but no-one knocks it out of the park so consistently as HT and no-one is close to their manufacturing know-how when it comes to characters like Iron Monger or ED-209. It'll be interesting to see how Sideshow does with Raynor. If it comes out as good as Monger, that'll be a real coup for them.

You mean Monger with cracking hips and ED-209 with the rotting rubber dome?

 

[pixletwin]

Yeah it would seem they really did nothing to change the height.

There. Done complaining.