Sideshow Sold Out!

[marvelcollector]

Star Wars figures used to sell out with edition sizes of several thousand in a matter of minutes. As prices rose, and people learned that figures were cheaper if you waited, it began to take longer.

If you want to understand the difference between Ms. Marvel's 'sold out' status, and true sold out status, look up the Doom PF product page. Ms. Marvel's page clearly states 'waitlist available. All Doom's says is 'Sorry, this item is sold out.'

This is the point i am making. I do understand the difference between the wait list items and the ones that are really sold out. If you look at Ms. Marvel's page, it says SOLD OUT under status. Does this mean sold out? No, it doesn't. To the buyer you can't place an order and be guaranteed a piece. You can if you buy it on another site though there will be a mark up.

Star wars figures should sell out quick because they are fairly inexpensive, not like Ms. Marvel. and other PF.

 

[darren1228]

Star wars figures should sell out quick because they are fairly inexpensive, not like Ms. Marvel. and other PF.

What? Star Wars PF are fairly inexpensive? They are priced relatively the same as Marvel PFs.

 

[marvelcollector]

What? Star Wars PF are fairly inexpensive? They are priced relatively the same as Marvel PFs.

The 12 inch figures, not the PF.

 

[SolidLiquidFox]

So this thread is about the technicality that a wait list item has the words "sold out" in the same page?

Moving right along. May be we should be asking more hard hitting questions of other things Sideshow has gotten lazy about. Like art direction for high profile characters like Silver Surfer comiquette.

 

[tnaig001]

The 12 inch figures, not the PF.

You do realize that the 12 inch figs used to be in the 50-60 range right?

 

[marvelcollector]

When i started this thread i was referring to how sideshow will list an item and it will be sold out the same day, but then it becomes available again. I wanted to know if this was a selling strategy.

 

[marvelcollector]

I didn't know that they sold for that price.

 

[SolidLiquidFox]

I wanted to know if this was a selling strategy.

It's a psychological game that they play with the collector mentality. I don't believe that there is any sense of urgency nowadays as things rarely truly sell out given higher edition sizes, massive cancellations without penalty, QC issues, less care and "wow" factor put into every piece artistically designed.

 

[marvelcollector]

I wonder if the wolverine PF exclusive will be back?

 

[risingstar]

Its cool though cause you will ALWAYS be smarter than Skiman

The lamppost across the street from my house is smarter than Skiman.

 

[Mr. Green]

The lamppost across the street from my house is smarter than Skiman.

Ouch!!!!!!!!

 

[traylorc]

devilof76... did you even read the previous post? Sold out should mean sold out. As in no longer available. I can't believe i have to say this again but do you think that the sold out status on a product has any influence on the buyers mentality, and if so do you think SS is stating something as sold out as a ploy to get you to get on the wait list on purpose?

Let's be honest, you want to have your cake and eat it too. You want to tell SS how to run their business because you don't like their sold out marketing strategy. Then, you want Sideshow to charge you only what you are willing to pay and not a penny more. Somehow the rules of supply and demand should not apply to you because this is your hobby.

Sold out should mean sold out huh? And how do you propose that we keep track of whether or not a product is really sold out? Should we create some sort of "sold out" governing body that will policy whether products are really sold out? Perhaps we should we craft a series of laws that state that sold out means sold out? Better yet, maybe we should craft laws that outlaw Sideshow's ability to show Backstage Passes or to preview their products at Comic Con. After all, these are both activities that Sideshow engages in to manipulate demand.

Lastly, I would argue that Sideshow's policy of declaring items as sold out isn't necessarily a primary driver of whether or not folks place an order for an item. Most folks are smart enough to realize that even if Sideshow declares an item as sold out there are other avenues they can pursue to purchase the product in question. In many instances, these other options are less expensive than what Sideshow is offering.

Personally I believe that forums like this, discussions of Sideshow's offerings, and the sharing of in hand pics are more significant factors in driving consumer demand rather than Sideshow declaring something as sold out.

 

[marvelcollector]

traylorc...I honestly feel like i'm talking to a brick wall. You act like i'm trying to round up a posse for SS. I just wanted to talk about this practice, like you would talk about the weather. It really has no significance to me one way or the other because i don't take it so personally. I am just stating something i noticed and want to see if anyone else has noticed it. I expect nothing to come of this nor am i asking it to.
"If Sideshow declares an item as sold out there are other avenues they can pursue to purchase the product in question. In many instances, these other options are less expensive than what Sideshow is offering." You can save 28 dollars through urban collector, or you can spend an additional 300. Does the sold out have anything to do with this? This is a common trend i noticed.

https://cgi.ebay.com/Daredevil-stat...aultDomain_0&hash=item3cb0b7bc99#ht_969wt_911

 

[Adoptedscot]

https://cgi.ebay.com/Daredevil-stat...145?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb0b7bc99

AHAHAHAHA

You can save 28 dollars through urban collector, or you can spend an additional 300. Does the sold out have anything to do with this? This is a common trend i noticed.

https://cgi.ebay.com/Daredevil-stat...aultDomain_0&hash=item3cb0b7bc99#ht_969wt_911

Is this your Auction or something?, is that why you keep mentioning it?

Of course the 'Sold out' term has an affect on the mark up value when it is being sold on the secondary market. As has been explained multiple times, some people buy these things purposely to flip, make money off, sell for profit etc.
This Auction is a prime example, someone has bought this and has used the fact that it is listed as 'SOLD OUT' to try and intice a collector to buy it from them at a marked up rate.
This practise however has nothing to do with Sideshow, it is merely a greedy flipper trying to make a quick buck.

That's the way it goes.
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[marvelcollector]

Thank you for admitting the practice has an effect.
I think it may affect whether a person is going to buy a piece. If something is going to be hard to get, a collector might buy one just to flip it. Sideshow could rely on this to get their statue out there.

 

[Adoptedscot]

Thank you for admitting the practice has an effect.
I think it may affect whether a person is going to buy a piece. If something is going to be hard to get, a collector might buy one just to flip it. Sideshow could rely on this to get their statue out there.

I'm not addmitting anything as I am not SS.

What I am saying is that once an item is marked as SOLD OUT on the website, and this could apply to any manufacturer be it Weta, Hot Toys, Moore, any of them. As soon as an item is marked as SOLD OUT there will be people that will try to take advantage of that and include it in a listing to sell it for a marked up rate.

That refers to individuals using the information to get more money for themselves, that is not the practise of a company having an effect.

I'll ask again, is that your Auction?? I'm just curious as you keep bringing it up.

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[EVILFACE]

What a fail of a thread.

 

[JosephCPR]

...

You didn't answer her question. Mastercollector= marvelcollector?

 

[EVILFACE]

You didn't answer her question. Mastercollector= marvelcollector?

Haha, a simple check of his IP will prove it.

 

[Hulksmashed]

I think that the prices should be a little more affordable. What are SS's overhead? i can understand a piece like the abomination PF being expensive because its gigantic and has a lot of detail, but why are we spending 300 on wolverine?

I would love to buy what i want tnaig001 but are the prices being manipulate? There might be more to it. I think people should consider it though.

What the hell are you talking about? People are buying Sideshows statues. Sideshow is obviously making money at their current prices...why would they lower them? If someone offered to pay you a million bucks for your house and you thought it was only worth 200 grand...would you say no? Likewise...when is the last time you walked into a Porsche dealership and said "No fair...I think I should be able to afford your cars"?

You pretend to be bringing up a "valid point" here, but you're point goes completely against a free market economy and the simple concept of supply and demand! Wolverine is $300 because he is popular and people are willing to pay $300. Its not a conspiracy, and YES..obviously the prices ARE being manipulated beyond the simple cost to produce the statue!! Prices for ANYTHING are rarely centered around cost of production. In fact, the idea is to make something as cheaply as possible while maximizing profit based on the level of demand.

If this concept is surprising to you, you've obviously either never completed a high school level economics class or failed it miserably. There are actual functions that are generated with price vs projected sales that take into account supply and demand principles. Normally bell shaped curves, the top of the bell curve being the optimal price to maximize sales AND price to generate the most possible profit. (of course thats simple supply and demand charts, as most are far more complicated taking into account number of suppliers, supplier pricing, production capabilities...)