Sideshow: The Clint Eastwood Legacy Collection (1:6 figures)

[Remembermyname]

I reckon so.

All things come to those that wait....well not In my experience.

I enjoy your input and banter my friend.

 

[Remembermyname]

I have mentioned on numerous occasions that I have been waiting since 76, well my friends the wait is over, first shot of my Outlaw Josey Wales, I draw your attention to the left trigger hand, it has been quite a journey.

Some minor adjustments in pose and to hide the wrist joints otherwise I am impressed. Mr Eastwood the Sideshow Team and I say "I reckon so"

 

[hoodonit00]

Great pose.

 

[MarkKing]

I am enjoying Sideshow Clint's, but their figs do seem overpriced. Is that just me?

The argument in my head is really is Sideshow worth twice as much as the 3rd party or over 100 dollars more?

Just looking at dirty Harry's between SS and Redman....hard to really see where the big difference comes in to play to justify the price

 

[Remembermyname]

Great pose.

Thank you my friend, I shall probably keep it so, I find the pose best for the style hands and keeping the pistols in place.

 

[Confused]

I am enjoying Sideshow Clint's, but their figs do seem overpriced. Is that just me?

The argument in my head is really is Sideshow worth twice as much as the 3rd party or over 100 dollars more?

Just looking at dirty Harry's between SS and Redman....hard to really see where the big difference comes in to play to justify the price

With all due respect, the Redman face sculpts seem to be mid and look off, imho. The weakest SS sculpt is still miles ahead of any Redman sculpt I’ve seen of Clint so far.

 

[DEATHASYLUM]

I have mentioned on numerous occasions that I have been waiting since 76, well my friends the wait is over, first shot of my Outlaw Josey Wales, I draw your attention to the left trigger hand, it has been quite a journey.

Some minor adjustments in pose and to hide the wrist joints otherwise I am impressed. Mr Eastwood the Sideshow Team and I say "I reckon so"

Excellent display and congrats good sir

 

[SwedishHeat]

I am enjoying Sideshow Clint's, but their figs do seem overpriced. Is that just me?

The argument in my head is really is Sideshow worth twice as much as the 3rd party or over 100 dollars more?

Just looking at dirty Harry's between SS and Redman....hard to really see where the big difference comes in to play to justify the price

Sideshow figures are more expensive, but they're not overpriced.

Redman doesn't "make" anything, they just recast parts that other people made. They don't pay for sculpts or prototypes or any R&D, nor do they pay licensing fees. They probably just buy someone's custom, they might pay $3,000 for a custom, and then send it to a factory to duplicate. They don't have customer service, or any other overhead costs. In essence, they're basically copying someone else's homework and writing their name on it.

Sideshow pays their sculptors, pays for clothing prototypes, and pays licensing fees, plus they have their whole operation to pay for, the customer service agents, the warehouse staff that packs and ships orders, all their in-house staff.

 

[MarkKing]

Sideshow figures are more expensive, but they're not overpriced.

Redman doesn't "make" anything, they just recast parts that other people made. They don't pay for sculpts or prototypes or any R&D, nor do they pay licensing fees. They probably just buy someone's custom, they might pay $3,000 for a custom, and then send it to a factory to duplicate. They don't have customer service, or any other overhead costs. In essence, they're basically copying someone else's homework and writing their name on it.

Sideshow pays their sculptors, pays for clothing prototypes, and pays licensing fees, plus they have their whole operation to pay for, the customer service agents, the warehouse staff that packs and ships orders, all their in-house staff.

Is it more expensive than other 1st party companies such as Hot Toys and Threezero. Hard to compare apples to apples, but Hot Toys typically start at 250 or so...THreezero around 199 USD. So I do think they are about 50-100 dollars more expensive and the quality of the face sculpts are not as good as both.

Just putting that out there.

 

[screamingmetal]

With the exception of Blondie, I've paid less than retail for Preacher and Josey with reward points and discounts.
Josey was $245 and Preacher $242 each with shipping and taxes. I think some of Sideshow's pricing is factoring in discounts. Worth it to finally get some official Eastwood figures.

 

[MarkKing]

With the exception of Blondie, I've paid less than retail for Preacher and Josey with reward points and discounts.
Josey was $245 and Preacher $242 each with shipping and taxes. I think some of Sideshow's pricing is factoring in discounts. Worth it to finally get some official Eastwood figures.

The value isn't worth the 300 price tag...BUT the AFTER market will go because it's official.

It's worth paying if you look through that lens. I keep looking at Dirty Harry, Redman, Sideshow and movie and I HATE to say it, I think Redman looks more accurate.

 

[SwedishHeat]

Is it more expensive than other 1st party companies such as Hot Toys and Threezero. Hard to compare apples to apples, but Hot Toys typically start at 250 or so...THreezero around 199 USD. So I do think they are about 50-100 dollars more expensive and the quality of the face sculpts are not as good as both.

Just putting that out there.

It's not apples to apples, you're never going to find a good comparison. Hot Toys doesn't have the infrastructure that Sideshow does. Hot Toys doesn't have a CS staff to answer your questions and respond to replacement inquiries, nor shipping and warehouse staff.

And while I believe that Threezero does have CS staff, it is likely tiny compared to Sideshow. They simply don't have the size. And their sculpts are hit and miss, just like Sideshow, so I don't see the argument there.

On top of that Threezero and Hot Toys aren't paying for overseas shipping when they manufacture product. When Sideshow product is produced they have to pay for container shipping to get it from China to the US warehouse, then ship out their individual orders.

You'll notice that the other "foreign' manufacturers, (non-Eastern, I don't know the best term) but companies like Sideshow, Mondo, Big Chief (RIP), Kaustic Plastik, all of their prices are comparatively higher than your similarly-scaled licensed counterparts. Which I believe is due the the fact that they're not located close to the factories and have to send representatives to monitor the factory progress, and aren't able to keep an eye on production in a cost-effective manner. Threezero and Hot Toys are located close to the factories so it is less expensive for them to station a representative to monitor production.

Further, you seem to not have a problem with Kaustic's $300 price tag for Chuck Norris and say it seems "appropriate", but seem upset by a $300 for Sideshow Clint Eastwood. I'm reasonably certain that Clint Eastwood wants a higher license fee than Chuck Norris, so again, I'm not terribly surprised that Clint Eastwood figures are more expensive.

And one other thing to keep in mind, I assume that the Clint Eastwood license is an additional cost on top of the movie license, e.g. Sideshow has to pay the movie studio to call the figure Blondie and put The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly on the box, and they have to pay Clint Eastwood as well. For Hot Toys, they are only paying Disney the license fee, they aren't paying the actor a fee as well. The Star Wars license includes "all" actor likenesses as well. There seems to be some debate that the Star Wars license no longer includes Harrison Ford, I find that fact debatable, but it's not relevant to this discussion.

Having said that, I'm reasonably certain that the total license fees for GBU and Clint Eastwood likeness put together is much higher than the total license fees for Missing in Action and the Chuck Norris likeness, if the likeness is not already included in the movie license rights, but considering the age of the movie, it likely does not include likeness rights.

And to reply to your recent post about Redman, saying that figure looks better. It's because it's a recast of a custom sculpt by iminime, it's not their work, it's just something they essentially stole from someone else. It's cheap because they didn't pay to develop the figure, and it looks good because they basically Xeroxed a figure that looked good to start off with.

For an example, I have a set of the Olly Moss Star Wars posters, there's a set on eBay now for $17k, which is an insane amount of money. I paid $150 for the set when they went on sale. But there are a ton of knock-off prints and scans. To me, it's really ****** that people are selling scanned versions of this artwork. Not that it devalues my set, but I just think it's ****** that people are profiting off work that they didn't create.

But in your case, it's like questioning why the posters cost $150, when I can just buy the posters on Estsy for $40.

 

[DEATHASYLUM]

Original iminime Harry for reference

 

[Confused]

The value isn't worth the 300 price tag...BUT the AFTER market will go because it's official.

It's worth paying if you look through that lens. I keep looking at Dirty Harry, Redman, Sideshow and movie and I HATE to say it, I think Redman looks more accurate.View attachment 685727View attachment 685728View attachment 685729

I don’t see it tbh. Redman has anime bug eyes and looks more like a guy in cosplay. But that’s my opinion. I think the SS version is vastly superior.

 

[Omega9300]

I have mentioned on numerous occasions that I have been waiting since 76, well my friends the wait is over, first shot of my Outlaw Josey Wales, I draw your attention to the left trigger hand, it has been quite a journey.

Some minor adjustments in pose and to hide the wrist joints otherwise I am impressed. Mr Eastwood the Sideshow Team and I say "I reckon so"

He looks amazing!!

 

[Asta]

Dirty Harry ain't my thing, but Sideshow's Josey Wales is an amazing sculpt, and amazing figure in almost every respect.


After making my Jonah Hex more classic comic postbellum today, by putting on a cartridge gun belt and giving him a pair of Colt SAA revolvers, it seemed fitting to briefly put him back with his fellow Missourian...

Josey and Jonah feel indelibly linked.

Jonah Hex first appeared in December 1971, in adverts for All-Star Western #10 where he would made his first full-story appearance early in 1972.

Hex was likely partly inspired by Clint's westerns.

Forrest Carter's The Rebel Outlaw: Josey Wales was published a year later in 1973, so it was fitting that Clint played him in the 1976 film.

 

[DEATHASYLUM]

Jonah Hex was one of my favorite comics growing up. I even enjoyed the jump to the future HEX (the Mad Max apocalypse world) wasn’t as good as the old west, but it was better than nothing.

 

[Asta]

Jonah Hex was one of my favorite comics growing up. I even enjoyed the jump to the future HEX (the Mad Max apocalypse world) wasn’t as good as the old west, but it was better than nothing.

Yesterday I downloaded every JH comic from his first appearance up until 2017, and have been scrolling through them.

Certain comic covers stick in my mind, and with Hex it's this one from 1982 that got me interested in the character:

Every time I look at my DX15 Jack Sparrow it reminds me of it too, because of the ship and shark base.

The comics were quite brutal and dark, unlike the majority of mainstream DC and Marvel at the time.

That's another correlation between Hex and Eastwood, and the point of contention John Wayne had with Eastwood's amoral and overtly violent revisionist westerns, which defied the romantic and over-idyllic Wayne era.

 

[Alsharad]

The value isn't worth the 300 price tag...BUT the AFTER market will go because it's official.

It's worth paying if you look through that lens. I keep looking at Dirty Harry, Redman, Sideshow and movie and I HATE to say it, I think Redman looks more accurate.View attachment 685727View attachment 685728View attachment 685729

TBF, that Redman photo is of the prototype. That sculpt is the original sculpt that Redman recast and paint. I don't have Redman's Harry, but I have their Blondie figure and the sculpt is terrible and a huge downgrade compared to the original/prototype. It's distorted, has less sculpted details, and softer paint app. I replaced it with OneSixthKit's sculpt which looks much better.

Even compared to the original iminime sculpt, Sideshow's Harry is definitely better IMO. It just has soft paint and hair details.

 

[sabin23]

It's not apples to apples, you're never going to find a good comparison. Hot Toys doesn't have the infrastructure that Sideshow does. Hot Toys doesn't have a CS staff to answer your questions and respond to replacement inquiries, nor shipping and warehouse staff.

And while I believe that Threezero does have CS staff, it is likely tiny compared to Sideshow. They simply don't have the size. And their sculpts are hit and miss, just like Sideshow, so I don't see the argument there.

On top of that Threezero and Hot Toys aren't paying for overseas shipping when they manufacture product. When Sideshow product is produced they have to pay for container shipping to get it from China to the US warehouse, then ship out their individual orders.

You'll notice that the other "foreign' manufacturers, (non-Eastern, I don't know the best term) but companies like Sideshow, Mondo, Big Chief (RIP), Kaustic Plastik, all of their prices are comparatively higher than your similarly-scaled licensed counterparts. Which I believe is due the the fact that they're not located close to the factories and have to send representatives to monitor the factory progress, and aren't able to keep an eye on production in a cost-effective manner. Threezero and Hot Toys are located close to the factories so it is less expensive for them to station a representative to monitor production.

Further, you seem to not have a problem with Kaustic's $300 price tag for Chuck Norris and say it seems "appropriate", but seem upset by a $300 for Sideshow Clint Eastwood. I'm reasonably certain that Clint Eastwood wants a higher license fee than Chuck Norris, so again, I'm not terribly surprised that Clint Eastwood figures are more expensive.

And one other thing to keep in mind, I assume that the Clint Eastwood license is an additional cost on top of the movie license, e.g. Sideshow has to pay the movie studio to call the figure Blondie and put The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly on the box, and they have to pay Clint Eastwood as well. For Hot Toys, they are only paying Disney the license fee, they aren't paying the actor a fee as well. The Star Wars license includes "all" actor likenesses as well. There seems to be some debate that the Star Wars license no longer includes Harrison Ford, I find that fact debatable, but it's not relevant to this discussion.

Having said that, I'm reasonably certain that the total license fees for GBU and Clint Eastwood likeness put together is much higher than the total license fees for Missing in Action and the Chuck Norris likeness, if the likeness is not already included in the movie license rights, but considering the age of the movie, it likely does not include likeness rights.

And to reply to your recent post about Redman, saying that figure looks better. It's because it's a recast of a custom sculpt by iminime, it's not their work, it's just something they essentially stole from someone else. It's cheap because they didn't pay to develop the figure, and it looks good because they basically Xeroxed a figure that looked good to start off with.

For an example, I have a set of the Olly Moss Star Wars posters, there's a set on eBay now for $17k, which is an insane amount of money. I paid $150 for the set when they went on sale. But there are a ton of knock-off prints and scans. To me, it's really ****** that people are selling scanned versions of this artwork. Not that it devalues my set, but I just think it's ****** that people are profiting off work that they didn't create.

But in your case, it's like questioning why the posters cost $150, when I can just buy the posters on Estsy for $40.

While I don’t condone the ethics of Redman or knockoff recasts, one can argue they provide a useful service to the collecting community who either can’t afford the custom or cannot find the limited custom for sale.

It is also arguable that is unethical for artists to produce and profit from custom figures - they are not paying for the IP rights or actor likeness.

Ethics aside, I’m just glad we as collectors have options - I’ve been able to enjoy the Redman Clint Eastwood figures on display for almost a decade but can retire them (should I choose) now that I have the licensed Sideshow figures. I’ll probably keep both and pose them differently.