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Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Artistically blade runner 2 did amazingly. Thank you for asking.
It was a beautiful work of art. Visually one of the best movies to come out in the past 5 years

yeah, absolutely. And it faced the most monumental task - even to hardcore Bladerunner fans - how to be a sequel and be original. No-one thought it was a good idea. But they pulled it off. I feared the worst - but it was the best sci-fi movie in years. Beautiful - thoughtful and in my opinion another modern classic.
 
Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

thats bullcrap.

thats not the same.... thats total BS

obviously all movies have investors and have big budgets and have bosses that they need to respond to.... every single movie ever made was made by a company.
ever made in the history of cinema

the BIG DIFFERENCE IS the passion behind the artist..... the BIG DIFFERENCE is the VISION behind the artist....... the story...... wanting to create something amazing

Every big amazing movie made in the last 70 years, every beloved hit had a visionary artist behind it that didnt ONLY Care about the money.... they wanted to tell a good story and they wanted to make a movie to be proud of..... they had a story inside their heads that they worked for years. they become perfectionists and spend a lot of time crafting the perfect movie


Talibane is not wrong.... these movies are made by a committee... the same way a committee gets together to create the new Whopper movie or the new line of Sneakers.
they look at the market and they wanna make something that will sell the most regardless of passion, regardless of vision....

This new star wars trilogy has no vision.... there is no Road map set up... Rian Jhonson should have NEVER let to make his own garbage crap.... someone should have been a manager and should have laid out a road map of where these movies were going .

directors get hired the same way you hire a mechanic to work on your car or you hire a contractor to build a new room in your house, the contractor didnt have anything to do with building the whole house hes just hired to build one room.... regardless if it fits. he didnt have a vision or anything. hes just paid to do a job.
just a job.... hes not picking the furniture, hes not picking the courtains.... hes just a hired hand....

Thats the problem.... thats why we are in this mess.... these movies are made in an assembly line like making a product to sell.... only caring what will sell right now

"Passion"... :lol

"High art" film only exists so that pretentious filmmakers can pretend they are more intelligent and sophisticated than everyone else IMO.
 
Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

"Passion"... :lol

"High art" film only exists so that pretentious filmmakers can pretend they are more intelligent and sophisticated than everyone else IMO.


Nah.. that's far too much of a sweeping statement. It's certainly true in some cases - looking at you Mr. Aronofsky.
But there are filmmakers out there that do it for the love of film, of storytelling and still have that creative hunger.
It's not all a circle jerk.
 
Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

"Passion"... :lol

"High art" film only exists so that pretentious filmmakers can pretend they are more intelligent and sophisticated than everyone else IMO.

No offense, but this reads like the opinion of someone who has never been exposed to ”high art”. It also reads like someone who is frustrated by the cards life has dealt.
 
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Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

No offense, but this reads like the opinion of someone who has never been exposed to ”high art”. It also reads like someone who is frustrated the by cards life has dealt.

Hes very young. You literally guessed right. :exactly: :goodpost:
Litetally called it correct.
 
Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Oouch!....

:lol

I don’t know chakor. I was just relating my experience that people in real life I have met who say stuff like that are guys with high opinions of themselves who feel like they were cheated by life. People who think they are better and smarter than everyone around them and blame others for why their life isn’t working out.

Again, I don’t know anything about chakor. No offense intended.
 
Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

"Passion"... :lol

"High art" film only exists so that pretentious filmmakers can pretend they are more intelligent and sophisticated than everyone else IMO.

Yeah I think everyone is gonna disagree with you on this one.. lol
 
Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

I don’t know chakor. I was just relating my experience that people in real life I have met who say stuff like that are guys with high opinions of themselves who feel like they were cheated by life. People who think they are better and smarter than everyone around them and blame others for why their life isn’t working out.
I don't know chakor either. But I know the mindset you refer to.
And still.. oouch!

:rotfl
 
Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

I don’t know chakor. I was just relating my experience that people in real life I have met who say stuff like that are guys with high opinions of themselves who feel like they were cheated by life. People who think they are better and smarter than everyone around them and blame others for why their life isn’t working out.

Again, I don’t know anything about chakor. No offense intended.

It just has to do with the immaturity of being early 20s
 
Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Ron Howard on altering the already shot Kessel run:

The monster wasn't around when I arrived. It was a new addition. There were a lot of the elements of the Kessel Run that were scripted and already previs-ed and so forth, but there was a lot of ongoing evolution of the story. Even using the Coaxium as a factor in the ultimate escape was something that just evolved through this incredible process […] I was in and out of the Falcon three times shooting new versions to facilitate new fun ideas that we were getting about the sequence.

And on why he didn’t go for Jabba:

Jabba was on the list, but they kind of knew they didn't want to go that way because it would be sort of funny, and maybe a little bit too much like sequel-baiting.

Wait... Wasn’t Maul sequel baiting if just an appearance would mean that? :lol
 
Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Blade Runner 2049 was tremendous though? It just wasn't aimed at a commercial market - it was a sequel to a cult movie with a pretty tight fanbase - but it cost a fortune.

Feige is a very clever marketing man who knows his brand - he couldn't lick **** off of Lucas' flannel covered boots.
He is a male version of Kennedy but someone who is doing it right for his brand and for the commercial longterm revenue of his brand. He's no filmmaker or auteur creative. Neither is Kennedy. Just producers pushing brands to the best of their abilities. But Kennedy has made a massive mistake of not understanding/liking/or really caring about what SW was.
She is trying to turn it into something that she wants or likes. Fail. I mean seriously 4 movies in - we get it. You want to push feminist and female brand attributes within the SW universe. If you care that much do. it. properly. as part of the overall universe. You know the one that has been cherished by decades, the one that you didn't create or care about.
We have had 2 female leads in 3 movies so far. Both of which worked (I love Rogue One) - why not pull back on the light speed with now because you are basically over egging the entire thing to stupidity. "Do you want anything? EQUALITY!!"

Oh **** off.

Yeah obviously huge differences between Lucas and Feige but I just view both in their own unique way and set of circumstances spear heading monumental successful achievements that caused significant impact to cinema and culture.

Regarding Kennedy first blame Lucas then her and not JUST HER and i’m good lol
 
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Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Ron Howard on altering the already shot Kessel run:

And on why he didn’t go for Jabba:

Wait... Wasn’t Maul sequel baiting if just an appearance would mean that? :lol


Three times in the falcon? Sounds like they had no idea what they were doing. Just making it up as they go along.

And yeah, talk about a dumb excuse not to use Jabba. Just say it: it was too obvious. That's the only sensible reasoning.
 
Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Yeah obviously huge differences between Lucas and Feige but I just view both as spear heading monumental successful achievements that caused significant impact to cinema and culture.

I think what Feige has achieved is pretty amazing. With so many films in a relatively condensed time period and without any true stinkers. Bond can brag with the same amount of films but with very uneven results and it took 50+ years.
 
Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Three times in the falcon? Sounds like they had no idea what they were doing. Just making it up as they go along.

And yeah, talk about a dumb excuse not to use Jabba. Just say it: it was too obvious. That's the only sensible reasoning.

Wait so had they gone back to the falcon only twice would’ve you then considered it genius filmmaking? :lol

That one extra return to the falcon set was what soured it for you lol
 
Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

I think what Feige has achieved is pretty amazing. With so many films in a relatively condensed time period and without any true stinkers. Bond can brag with the same amount of films but with very uneven results and it took 50+ years.

:exactly: :lecture :exactly:
 
Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Wait so had they gone back to the falcon only twice would’ve you then considered it genius filmmaking? :lol

That one extra return to the falcon set was what soured it for you lol

Not soured. But it sounds like they had no plan for the Kessel Run -- dumped the kids idea, then came up with a monster, but had to go at it three times. Sounds like Kevin Smith's "giant spider" Simpson story.



The downside: This type of universe building will haunt us for decades because its branded success pleases corporate bean-counters. And it will get ridiculous, like with M. Night's trilogy.
 
Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Not soured. But it sounds like they had no plan for the Kessel Run -- dumped the kids idea, then came up with a monster, but had to go at it three times. Sounds like Kevin Smith's "giant spider" Simpson story.




The downside: This type of universe building will haunt us for decades because its branded success pleases corporate bean-counters. And it will get ridiculous, like with M. Night's trilogy.

Don’t care i’m out after Spiderman 2 :lol

I’ll return if X-Men/FF become Disney properties

I’m also out of episodic SW after IX but will obviously return for OT era nonsense.

I’m just out in general my movie collection is enough to hold me over until death.

As it is my wife and I are too busy running our strip joint and satan camp getaways.

Ok fine only one of those is true :panic:
 
Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

What does "out" mean? You're not going to see any more of Marvel or Star Wars other than Spiderman 2 and the occasional OT ref'd movie? You -- who sees these things 2-3 times in opening weekend? Come on.

I'm sure you and the wife can squeeze these in between blood sacrifices and primal orgies.
 
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