Speculation: Hot Toys "Solo" Movie Figures

[sithlord13]

The only good things with mauls return was him getting his ass handed to him by the emperor in clone wars. His temptation of erza and his death in rebels.
Tbh rebels and rogue one are the only things Disney hasn’t ruined.
Solo was ok looked great but had a weak story. Less of the history and more story would have made a better film

 

[SithThundercracker]

Opening weekend is over and the movie barely made $100 million worldwide; tomorrows draw means nothing and the drop-off will be massive next week (like most movies). For a Star Wars movie over Memorial Day weekend, this is a DISASTER. It has also bombed in China and probably won't even be in theaters over there next week.

Since this movie supposedly cost $300 million to make, not including marketing, there is a very good chance Solo is going to lose a lot of money. I think the lack of box office receipts is proof that The Last Jedi and Rose Tico (lol) have damaged the Star Wars brand and perhaps all those Youtubers calling for a boycott were not just a vocal minority. A lot of people dislike what Kathleen Kennedy has done to Star Wars and I think it's becoming evident now.

My problem is this movie doesn't deserve it. It's a fun SW movie and could have at least one good sequel.

 

[screamingmetal]

You know guys, I was trying to be vague as not to spoil it for anyone..

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Maul's survival was already canon. It was disclosed in The Clone Wars that he survives and Obi-Wan kills him on Tatooine in Rebels. This movie changes none of that, Maul was already alive in canon before Disney acquired Lucasfilm.

Yes, I watched the series and I enjoyed that scene on Tatoonie you mention and I love the character in the original movie. That said, it's just GD ridiculous that he survived what happened to him. When it comes to animation, I can take it or leave it when it comes to cannon. Now that it's live action, it's firmly canon. Including that ridiculous explanation for how he survived.

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I just don’t get this attitude. Solo has nothing to do with TLJ. By holding out on Solo you’re indicating that there is no interest in the OT era. You clearly don’t like the ST, so what’s left for you?

As for your summary of the Solo movie, most of those inferences are totally wrong. Solo dealing with the rebellion? The rebellion doesn’t even exist during the time Solo is set. And as for a Maul.... his return has always been canon, and Canon from the mind of George Lucas.


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TLJ was bad enough for me to ruin any further enjoyment of new SW. I will not support Disney by giving them any more money (which is the only reason Disney makes these movies BTW) for their SW movies from now on because of TLJ and how they've managed the negative reaction by fans (some of it has been pretty insulting). Solo may take place in the OT era, but it's just not officially OT for me.
I'll be honest though, Mangold's Boba Fett has me more intrigued since it was announced, but just wait for Kathleen Kennedy to announce that Mangold is stepping away for "creative differences" like Colin Trevorrow had to. Also, It would be hard for me to resist new HT Rogue One figures.

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From what I've heard, instead of fighting for what's his with the Cloud Riders, Solo gives up his prize at the end for the proto-rebellion in Solo. A very similar selfless act to what Han showed when he came to Luke's rescue in ANH on the Trench Run. At the beginning of ANH, Han couldn't give a damn about the Rebellion, all he cared about was money. The friendship he develops with Luke and Leia is why he decides not to just look out for himself "I guess that's what [He's] best at, isn't it?". That turn for Han's character in ANH isn't as strong because he now has such a similar turn in Solo. It's not how I think they should've portrayed Han this early in his story

I think a lot of fans like him, myself included, so now he's back on the big screen. I was hoping for a slaughter scene like the one at the end of RO but it didn't happen.

I like him, just I don't like the explanation for how he's back. He should've never been killed in the first place so he could continue in future movies.

 

[Johnny Utah]

It wouldn't surprise me if Mangold left too. Mainly because KK will shove an unnecessary female character in.

 

[davejames]

I honestly don't see a Boba Fett movie doing much better, since it's probably not a character general audiences have much interest in. The only possibility would be if Mangold could make it really edgy and kickass like he did Logan, but I don't see Disney allowing anything even close to that.

 

[Khev]

You know guys, I was trying to be vague as not to spoil it for anyone..

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From what I've heard, instead of fighting for what's his with the Cloud Riders, Solo gives up his prize at the end for the proto-rebellion in Solo. A very similar selfless act to what Han showed when he came to Luke's rescue in ANH on the Trench Run. At the beginning of ANH, Han couldn't give a damn about the Rebellion, all he cared about was money. The friendship he develops with Luke and Leia is why he decides not to just look out for himself "I guess that's what [He's] best at, isn't it?". That turn for Han's character in ANH isn't as strong because he now has such a similar turn in Solo. It's not how I think they should've portrayed Han this early in his story

What you heard isn't really correct.

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Han only gives up the merchandise because the marauders have him outnumbered and would have killed him otherwise. So he comes up with a plan that allows the marauders to ambush the Crime Syndicate (since they have their own score to settle) so he can free his girlfriend. Things don't really play out the way he expects with his girlfriend but the marauders are impressed with his ingenuity and ask if he'll join their cause. He laughs and basically says no way, not ever. So him coming back at the end of ANH is still just as big a moment as it always was.

You really did yourself a disservice by ruining this movie for yourself. It's as far removed from TLJ as AOTC is to ESB.

 

[Johnny Utah]

I must remember to quote myself when the creative differences story breaks.

 

[Guer Toshav]

Although it is a throwable movie, Solo enables us to ask important questions (thanks Disney):

- with a returning Maul, Mace windu could also be seen again...
- a Lando movie could explore a pansexual Bespin society ...
- surviving Snoke with mechanical legs in ep IX ?
- could Q'ira be the next Maul's apprentice ?
- Boba Fett romance with Enfys Nest ?

SW is becoming a surrealist laboratory (and in these circumstances, it's hard to sell 1/6 products...)

 

[momaw]

I think the lack of box office receipts is proof that The Last Jedi and Rose Tico (lol) have damaged the Star Wars brand and perhaps all those Youtubers calling for a boycott were not just a vocal minority. A lot of people dislike what Kathleen Kennedy has done to Star Wars and I think it's becoming evident now.

The "failure" of Solo has absolutely nothing to do with TLJ. The moment this movie was announced there was an outcry of "why?". This is a film that was not wanted or needed. And the final result is everything most feared. It limps from moment to moment proud of the reveals it has made but putting zero investment into making them meaningful and robbing them of any emotional resonance. The off screen drama surrounding it's production and the seeming lack of confidence from Lucasfilm with such a late advertising campaign also didn't help. It was doomed well before TLJ and using it to further that agenda is disingenuous at best. This is a failure in it's own right. It's an entertaining enough story, but could have been told as a true standalone story. And it would have been so much better for that.

I didn't "hate" TLJ. Personally I loved Luke's arc (although the sabre toss was way to campy). The space fuel, Leia Poppins and Canto Bite stuff is where I checked out. They were filler for Luke and Rey's story. The last act was fantastic, but I must admit I find the film as a whole hard to sit through for subsequent viewings.

Likewise I didn't hate "Solo". I simply feel indifferent to it.

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If it weren't about forcing all the "Hey kids, he just met Chewbacca", "Hey kids, see how clever we were naming him", "Hey kids, see he was never a scoundrel and always had a heart of gold", "Hey kids, see where his blaster came from", and so on and so on, it would have been much more interesting. So many lost opportunities by trying to cram too much in and rushing through things like his time in the imperial army and the instant life bond formed by getting out of a pit. And was it just me or was it creepy the way Chewie went from kill mode to jealous girlfriend almost instantly. I really enjoyed Glover's Lando though (not so much his droid). That is an origin movie I could get behind. It would be entertaining and doesn't risk destabilising the wonderful and complete character arc we got from Han in the OT (before they started messing with it in the special editions).

 

[Johnny Utah]

The vitriol towards TLJ definitely affected Solo. Wake up.

 

[screamingmetal]

What you heard isn't really correct.

Spoiler

Han only gives up the merchandise because the marauders have him outnumbered and would have killed him otherwise. So he comes up with a plan that allows the marauders to ambush the Crime Syndicate (since they have their own score to settle) so he can free his girlfriend. Things don't really play out the way he expects with his girlfriend but the marauders are impressed with his ingenuity and ask if he'll join their cause. He laughs and basically says no way, not ever. So him coming back at the end of ANH is still just as big a moment as it always was.

You really did yourself a disservice by ruining this movie for yourself. It's as far removed from TLJ as AOTC is to ESB.

Ah, That sounds a bit better. Thanks for the info, I stand corrected.
Ruining it has allowed me to let go of an interest to see it. I'll still wait for it to show up on TV or something and I'll see for myself then.

 

[momaw]

The vitriol towards TLJ definitely affected Solo. Wake up.

Lazy reasoning from the extremely vocal and extremely minority TLJ haters. Supports their agenda and avoids looking at the real reasons for the problems with this film. You can say the box office of TLJ was high because people didn't know better, but the performance of DVD and Blu-ray sales following the "vitriol" tells another story. TLJ "backlash" on Solo is a spec in the ocean.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Extremely minority. Sure. TLJ took a giant **** on the saga that JJ Abrams will have his work cut out to clean up.

But keep defending it.

 

[momaw]

Extremely minority. Sure. TLJ took a giant **** on the saga that JJ Abrams will have his work cut out to clean up.

But keep defending it.

Guess you missed my list of everything I didn't like about TLJ, but hey, it's ever love or hate right. No room in between for anything else.

 

[screamingmetal]

I do think there's some legitimacy to "Star Wars fatigue" for Solo bombing, and there's also legitimacy for the Disney Wars backlash for it bombing.

 

[fantasticfrog]

I agree about fatigue for sw from the public. Many friends who are casual fans are not in a rush for solo, most citing extreme dislike for last Jedi. Plus, marvel seems to know how to make movies the public wants to see, as black panther and iw were very close together. Deadpool just came out, also. Get whoever is in charge over there to teach classes at Lucasfilm on how to treat fans. A new regime and direction is needed at Lucasfilm. I’m sure episode 9 will be a train wreck. I think jj is partly to blame for the sad state of sw, with his ot rewriting and murder of Han.

 

[DioramaMaker]

It doesn't make much sense to my as to why they insisted on going with the "different director each trilogy film" route beyond being a homage to the OT. Marvel learned early on that keeping consistent directors for arching narratives led to better, more coherent films, hence why the Russos now have 4 Marvel movies under their belts carrying the largest plot of all the films.

I full well think that Disney realized this mistake and that's the biggest reason JJ is back, so he can balance that back to the tone he started with, as that had a pretty decent reception. And I say this as someone who didn't hate TLJ.

Say what you will about JJ, but him at the helm of all three movies would have produced a more comprehensive and logically intertwined trilogy. Bring in the Manigolds and Edwards of the world to do cool spin offs that have their own unique tones, that's awesome. But stay consistent with the trilogy. I doubt that Johnson will get his trilogy anymore, to be honest.

 

[DarthAlias]

It doesn't make much sense to my as to why they insisted on going with the "different director each trilogy film" route beyond being a homage to the OT. Marvel learned early on that keeping consistent directors for arching narratives led to better, more coherent films, hence why the Russos now have 4 Marvel movies under their belts carrying the largest plot of all the films.

I full well think that Disney realized this mistake and that's the biggest reason JJ is back, so he can balance that back to the tone he started with, as that had a pretty decent reception. And I say this as someone who didn't hate TLJ.

Say what you will about JJ, but him at the helm of all three movies would have produced a more comprehensive and logically intertwined trilogy. Bring in the Manigolds and Edwards of the world to do cool spin offs that have their own unique tones, that's awesome. But stay consistent with the trilogy. I doubt that Johnson will get his trilogy anymore, to be honest.

Well said, Johnson will not get a directorial trilogy but he will direct the first of the three. At least for now that’s the plan. We’ll see how that pans out. We’re still years away from that. The success of ep 9 I think will determine if they continue with the Johnson trilogy stories.

 

[DarthAlias]

Although it is a throwable movie, Solo enables us to ask important questions (thanks Disney):

- with a returning Maul, Mace windu could also be seen again...
- a Lando movie could explore a pansexual Bespin society ...
- surviving Snoke with mechanical legs in ep IX ?
- could Q'ira be the next Maul's apprentice ?
- Boba Fett romance with Enfys Nest ?

SW is becoming a surrealist laboratory (and in these circumstances, it's hard to sell 1/6 products...)

I don’t think Mace would come back. Considering Maul has been in two animated series since TPM and the robo legs concept was in comics before LFL made it official. Once Mace is in comics surviving then we could consider that. Until then he’s long gone. Plus his character isn’t as impactfully huge and sellable like Maul.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

I saw Solo and didn't really like it but I didn't hate it like TLJ. But I will NEVER watch another Rian Johnson movie and I don't plan to see 9 in the theater.