Darth Cruel
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I am starting to wonder if the Joe line will continue to be sustainable.
I really hope so because I dig on these figures!
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I am starting to wonder if the Joe line will continue to be sustainable.
I really hope so because I dig on these figures!
ProgMatinee
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I dig the figures too. You'll always have the supremely dedicated that will keep paying whatever SSC charges, but the people on a tighter budget will have to make the cuts...and in the end those supremely dedicated will end up taking the punishment for that. Every $ missed by someone like me that simply can't afford it anymore is being covered by someone who can. A line like this could be $200 a figure in a year or so.
CaptainDinobot
Freakzoid
I completely agree, the Joes have so much more accessories although my Resident Evil Wekser and Chris were pretty loaded with guns. I just recently got into these and got all my Sideshow Joes other than Snake Eyes for under $100 including the shipping. There are online stores that have Duke for around $105.00. That T-800, as awesome as it is, isn't going anywhere near that cheap.
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I am afraid that if SS 1/6 figures reach $200 a pop. Regardless of the line. I will be done for sure.
When most figs started hitting the 80- price tag i was bothered, I thank them for jumping the price so fast and high that there is NO chance I would pay this much...and certainly trying to collect all the different figs from the line is out of the question. Excatly how much will people pay for a 12 fig?
ProgMatinee
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some people per their quotes here will pay anything. just in context, 3 years ago or so you could get like 4,5, maybe even 6 12" figs for the price of a Premium Format figure. Now its like 2.5 maybe 3 figures.
I like 12" figures for their posability and the size makes it easier to collect more, but I think its undeniable that PFs are made better. Its just that the price ceiling has been established for PFs while 12" figures SSC and HT are still testing exactly how high they can go. I won't be surprised at all if PFs stay at $300 and 12" figures are $200.
I like 12" figures for their posability and the size makes it easier to collect more, but I think its undeniable that PFs are made better. Its just that the price ceiling has been established for PFs while 12" figures SSC and HT are still testing exactly how high they can go. I won't be surprised at all if PFs stay at $300 and 12" figures are $200.
I like the toy-accurate belt buckle now that I see those hi-res pictures. One nit is that personally, I would have liked him to come with a shirt that was pre-made and possibly stitched to resemble the original, rolled way up to his bicep.
https://www.yojoe.com/action/85/85card/flint.jpg
The reason is, in my experience trying to do a custom, you have to cut part of the sleeve off and made other adjustments to try to get the sleeves rolled up as high as they were on the original without looking way too bulky. By going the cheap route and re-using Duke's shirt, it will be tough to roll up the sleeves much more than they are in these pics, I'm guessing.
Using the "tiger stripe" pants isn't a huge deal to me, but it would have been nicer if they had gone with the original, more traditional camo, IMO. To me, it has more of a "kit-bash" look with these pants.
Also, the web gear looks a bit cheap in that color to me. They don't look so bad when made in the darker colors.
Still, all in all, I'm thrilled that they didn't go all "Firefly" with him. This is obviously Flint, and I will be pleased as punch to add him to my collection.
https://www.yojoe.com/action/85/85card/flint.jpg
The reason is, in my experience trying to do a custom, you have to cut part of the sleeve off and made other adjustments to try to get the sleeves rolled up as high as they were on the original without looking way too bulky. By going the cheap route and re-using Duke's shirt, it will be tough to roll up the sleeves much more than they are in these pics, I'm guessing.
Using the "tiger stripe" pants isn't a huge deal to me, but it would have been nicer if they had gone with the original, more traditional camo, IMO. To me, it has more of a "kit-bash" look with these pants.
Also, the web gear looks a bit cheap in that color to me. They don't look so bad when made in the darker colors.
Still, all in all, I'm thrilled that they didn't go all "Firefly" with him. This is obviously Flint, and I will be pleased as punch to add him to my collection.
I can appreciate everyones particular financial situation but I dont see why people complain about the prices, these are high end collectibles, if 5$ forces you out of buying them either you shouldnt have been spending teh money in the first place or B you dont really have th money to be spedning anyway. This is a market where prices will NEVER go back down, did BMW drop their prices??
To me every figure accept waypoint, has been worth what they charge. Do I have 200$ for a Throne, no, do I think they over priced it, not at all.
To me every figure accept waypoint, has been worth what they charge. Do I have 200$ for a Throne, no, do I think they over priced it, not at all.
maskfreak
Super Freak
Really glad to see the laser rifle love included in the joes from now on.
Did they overcharge for the indiana jones 12 exclusive 'fridge'?
Hell yeah they did, they tricked people into paying 85- for a polystone statue of a fridge. If it was plastic and 40- they would have tricked me too...I just cant compare a premium format to a 12 in price but yet as said above they are getting much closer to eachother than they should.
Darth Cruel
Super Freak
Something that I think about even more, now...I got in to the work I do so that I would have plenty of money to do all of the collecting that I want to do. I still can...even with the price hikes...but only because I got tired of Hasbro and quit buying them.
I actually like the nod to both the classic camo and the Tiger Force Flint with the way they patterned the pants. That said I'm glad they didn't go that route with Duke.
Yeah, I have a modest toy buying budget (not compared with the average person on the street, but in relation to some people here who spend might spend $2-3K a month on toys and statues). As such, choices have to be made, and Hasbro just doesn't make the cut anymore. Honestly, Mattel is about to get the cut, as well. $30 per MOTU figure (after shipping) is ridiculous, considering that you can get a much more impressive, and much higher quality 1/6 scale toy for the price of 5 of them. And all the Transformers I own aren't as cool as my Cap PF, which cost me a bundle but was probably cheaper than what I spent on all those other figures now sitting in a box in a storage facility.
ProgMatinee
circlesendwheretheybegin
different perspecives for different people. The idea though that if $5 makes or breaks you that I shouldn't have been spending the money anyway is kinda ridiculous.
Its about choices and options. Can I afford $60 (assuming I buy 1 figure a month) more a year on collectibles? Sure, thats not hard. But then I can ask myself can I afford $10, how about $15, how about $20, heck why not $50 more per figure. Anyone without a personal threshold set for themselves are probably already in debt over their heads.
Being fiscally responsible is all about making sacrifices and 12" figures will be my sacrifice. I'd rather buy a nice tv and go on vacations and stuff right now. Its complaining. Its whining. But I don't think its irrational.
Regarding the throne, I can't say if its overpriced or not, but just 3 or 4 years ago for only $100 more you could have got the Doom PF! Its about perspective.
FLOSI
Nerf Herder
You know we're all obviously Joe fans so we all want to get most of, if not all of, the figures in the line, but I'm already starting to wonder how viable it will be long term.
Snake-Eyes, Storm Shadow and the Cobra Trooper have all sold out through SS, while the other three remain in stock. Also, every figure aside from Snake-Eyes can be had through other, third party, retailers. Now that we're finally getting to the non-masked characters I can't help but think that their sales will really dictate how successful the line will be overall.
Are any of the other lines all sell outs or close to it?? NOt being sarcastic, I only collect SW, and I dont think any of the recent figs have sold out.
ProgMatinee
circlesendwheretheybegin
its a catch 22. how can the sales be strong if they keep raising prices? yet ssc's philosophy is if edition size decrease raise prices.
When SSC doesn't think of value minded collectors you get lines that just crap out or become really really expensive and you end up with like 5 figures a year.
IMO Flint was the perfect figure to say "here's a Joe for $100".
Its closer to the Cobra figures in quantity of accessories than it is to Duke. Then the accessories it does include is like 6 hands and 4 guns? I just don't see the need to continually raise prices or justify high prices by including the wrong accessories.
Why not start making figures more bare bones then sell packages with extra guns and more hands and people can choose to buy or pass on the upgrades?
Basically by including stuff like the laser rifle and a bunch of hands with every Joe it costs SSC 40 cents but it makes the figure look more packed out so I end up having to pay $25 more. What they don't realize is the $25 is making me cancel not only Flint, but Duke and the throne too. I just have to make a stand.
When SSC doesn't think of value minded collectors you get lines that just crap out or become really really expensive and you end up with like 5 figures a year.
IMO Flint was the perfect figure to say "here's a Joe for $100".
Its closer to the Cobra figures in quantity of accessories than it is to Duke. Then the accessories it does include is like 6 hands and 4 guns? I just don't see the need to continually raise prices or justify high prices by including the wrong accessories.
Why not start making figures more bare bones then sell packages with extra guns and more hands and people can choose to buy or pass on the upgrades?
Basically by including stuff like the laser rifle and a bunch of hands with every Joe it costs SSC 40 cents but it makes the figure look more packed out so I end up having to pay $25 more. What they don't realize is the $25 is making me cancel not only Flint, but Duke and the throne too. I just have to make a stand.
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D. Martin
Super Freak
My biggest pet peeve with collectors. No one "
tricked" anyone to buy anything. Companies are in the business of producing things that people want to buy. If a customer wants it, they buy it. If they don't want it, or don't want it for that price, they don't buy it.
If you truly feel that SSC is out to trick you out of your money, you need to reassess your buying habits...
I hear what your saying, but the price hasnt jummped so drastically in the Joe line and you cant compare them to 70$ SW figs of years ago. SE was 110$ I think when he came out, and now Flint is 125$, thats 15$. IF and thats a big IF SS releases 6 Joes a year, thats whopping 90$.
You can honestly say 90$ is going to stop you from going on vacation?
If I wanted I could collect 90$ in empty beer bottles and red bull cans a year. If we are all able to get them later on cheaper thats great, SS still had to sell them to someone, so that means the line is moving.
devilof76
Super Freak
I don't think it's complaining or whining. You're not making any kind of presumption that other people should accept your conclusions as universal truths. There is no mistaking that you are saying the figures are overpriced for you. You are the only person who can determine what is rationally feasible for your own situation, and I don't get the impression that you're inclined to being irrational with money.
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