Star Wars: Andor (April 22, 2025)

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I really wish George Lucas had done this series. All 24 episodes would have been about a 6-year-old Cassian fighting the Empire alongside the rebels. Andor and 13 year old Mon Mothman and 2 month old Saw Guerrera (wearing one Birkenstock shoe). It would have been epic. :p ;) Oh well.....
 
So this data analytical company that hollywood uses to capture a massive collection of global popular discussions in entertainment reported to Disney that Andor has the least interest attached to it of all SW shows :slap

Way below BOBF by ALOT!

Yikes!
 
So this data analytical company that hollywood uses to capture a massive collection of global popular discussions in entertainment reported to Disney that Andor has the least interest attached to it of all SW shows :slap

Way below BOBF by ALOT!

Yikes!
I think this was Parrot? IIRC it uses analytics from TVs so it is possible Andor did not get the same audience numbers as the other SW shows.

While I love Rogue One, Cassian was probably one of the least interesting characters in a movie that already had very poor character development. As a result, Andor was the show I was least interested about up until the first two episodes dropped.
 
So this data analytical company that hollywood uses to capture a massive collection of global popular discussions in entertainment reported to Disney that Andor has the least interest attached to it of all SW shows :slap

Way below BOBF by ALOT!

Yikes!
Sure. I'd say the majority of Star Wars fans had interest for and were super excited for Boba Fett. Especially after he was a bad ass in Mando.

But, then we saw the 1st episode.... :lol
 
I genuinely think this may be the genre show that finally gets Disney their first non-technical Emmy. It’s so damn smart. There’s no shortage of engaging, well written television out there, but I often find that it’s easy to push boundaries when you have none. Streamers like Apple TV+, Amazon, HBO Max, Netflix, and others can pretty much be completely uninhibited with content restrictions, but Disney + finds itself in an almost self-imposed exile with Network TV in which the high profile of their IP and it’s conservatorship often boxes them into a different set of standards than their competitors.

This show transcends that and it does so within the limitations of its platform. It’s one thing to write engaging dialogue and political intrigue when you can break it up with orgies and bloody, gruesome battles, but you just can’t have Admiral Ackbar calling someone a four-letter word in a series set in a multi-billion dollar franchise. And yet? Tony Gilroy almost does that without doing it and it recontextualizes the entire Star Wars Mythos for me. This is a show that actually makes me want to see The Emperor as the elder statesman he seems to be. It’s something that I don’t think has been highlighted enough in the decades’ worth of film. Palpatine has often been depicted without cunning after the PT and as a sort of cackling idiot zealot obsessed with “The Dark Side.” I’d be interested in seeing him through a different lens that I think this show hints at.

Namely, that I don’t think any number of Senators or his Imperial subordinates would be able to rationalize nor entertain the inane ramblings of a prune-faced lunatic about “Darth Plagueis” and “The Force,” nor would I think the Empire would be so quick to bend the knee to him if there wasn’t some foundation of respectability belying his…eccentricities. Andor has me re-examining all the inner workings and machinations of nearly 50 years of one of the most iconic franchises in pop culture. “What did the Imperial High Command look like after the destruction of the Death Star?” “How did the remnants of the Empire grapple with the news of Palpatine’s death after the destruction of the second Death Star?” “Who took control?” “Were there power struggles?” “When did the transition to the First Order begin?”

It raises all sorts of questions I never even thought I knew nor wanted the answers to and, honestly? Disney would be absolutely moronic if they didn’t lean into it in charting the future of this franchise.
 
“What did the Imperial High Command look like after the destruction of the Death Star?”
Yes.

“How did the remnants of the Empire grapple with the news of Palpatine’s death after the destruction of the second Death Star?”
Yes.

“Who took control?”
Yes.

“Were there power struggles?”
Yes.

“When did the transition to the First Order begin?”
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Lucas tried to do the political machination angle in the PT. Not only was it at odds with the hokey Flash Gordon inspiration for the original Star Wars, but he did it so clumsily by off-setting politics with comical stupidity (Jar Jar and the Battle Droids). The acting through much of the PT was pretty bad too.

Andor has succeeded where Lucas failed. We have the political machinations, a lack of comical stupidity, and good acting. It isn't Flash Gordon, but it is a good, more grown up interpretation of the universe George created before he lost sight of his own vision.
 
So this data analytical company that hollywood uses to capture a massive collection of global popular discussions in entertainment reported to Disney that Andor has the least interest attached to it of all SW shows :slap

Way below BOBF by ALOT!

Yikes!

Unfortunately as I said early on - no one is talking about it in the media - or anywhere for that matter. Everyone appreciates the quality, but that's where the conversations end.

As Gilroy himself stated, "You don't need to give a **** about SW to watch this show." Sadly then, it looks like people just don't give a ****, period.

Shame.
 
At the same time if the second season is already greenlit and due to have an ending point just prior to Rogue One precluding any subsequent seasons, I guess it doesn't really matter to us how much attention it is getting in terms of whether it gets renewed. We can sit back and enjoy the show without any hype or external politics (genuine or fake) attached and actually discuss the merits of what we see on screen.

The downside would be that if Andor doesn't perform well with viewership over its two seasons is that they might not make similar shows in the future.
 
Lucas tried to do the political machination angle in the PT. Not only was it at odds with the hokey Flash Gordon inspiration for the original Star Wars, but he did it so clumsily by off-setting politics with comical stupidity (Jar Jar and the Battle Droids). The acting through much of the PT was pretty bad too.

Andor has succeeded where Lucas failed. We have the political machinations, a lack of comical stupidity, and good acting. It isn't Flash Gordon, but it is a good, more grown up interpretation of the universe George created before he lost sight of his own vision.
I strongly disagree with your viewpoint there, there's a helluva lot of depth in the prequels especially on the nature of evil and how a seemingly democratic political system can transform into a dictatorship. It's all there and always has been. And the acting is absolutely fine in my opinion.
 
I strongly disagree with your viewpoint there, there's a helluva lot of depth in the prequels especially on the nature of evil and how a seemingly democratic political system can transform into a dictatorship. It's all there and always has been. And the acting is absolutely fine in my opinion.

The difference is that the writing and acting in the Prequels was often so bad that it undermined the intent. As did Jar Jar and those ridiculous Battle Droids.

Andor succeeds with the mission that Lucas failed at.
 
Well this episode whacked the break on again, overall it was fine, however Cassian came across as lacking in prudence in his choice of travel destinations. WTF was he thinking!?
 
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